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  1. MIke says

    Lynn Sweet has licked the Obama’s asses since before he was Senator. I’m sure she would have been just as impressed would that have been Laura Bush.

  2. Anonymous says

    Two points: One is, why are people who interrupt these political speeches called “hecklers” now? And the second point is that the “heckler” asked a good question. Why *doesn’t* he sign it? Seems like a no brainer to me.

  3. JP says

    I wish this wouldn’t have happened. It’s fueling the rights “gay agenda” narrative and the woman embarrassed the cause in my opinion.

  4. Tony says

    Only a matter of time before the right-wing and fox news start to call all LGBT activists uncivilized, rude and other unfortunate names; comparing us to the shooter at the FRC. It’s easier to generate hate towards LGBT than the Obamas.

  5. grego says

    How “exclusive” was this exclusive gathering of gays in DC? Too exclusive for me, apparently. lol.

  6. says

    1. Obama signs an Executive Order
    2. Since it’s just an executive order, and not actually law, it can be undone by any GOP President

    so, let’s accept that we’re all disappointed in not getting everything in the speed we want. but an executive order offers little, if any, ACTUAL protection.

    ENDA is hugely important. more important than marriage.

    and what will impact ENDA? more people coming out and demanding it. DEMANDING IT.

    and there’s a reason many gay activists “crack”, if you will – the weight of the working for the community, including the millions of closeted folks, often rests squarely on their shoulders.

    there’s a time and place and way to go about this. Ellen could have even raised her voice, you know, AFTER this speech by Mrs. Obama.

    but an executive order is not what some folks seem to think it is.

  7. Adam says

    What’s wrong with gay hecklers? I love gay hecklers . Doesn’t Andy Towle like gay hecklers?

  8. nick says

    Little Kiwi is 100% right. For many, many people marriage equality is useless without ENDA. In states with no employment protection, getting married may likely be the end of your employment — you’d be married and destitute.

    Even if the SCOTUS gives us nation-wide marriage equality, taking advantage of that equality will show you just how un-equal you truly are as you are being fired from your job or longtime career.

  9. Eureka says

    Also, newsflash: the first lady is not in anyway a policy maker or involved in any operation of the executive branch. You don’t yell at someone’s spouse to comment on their job, act like you have some damn sense.

  10. Bryan says

    Ms. Obama’s reaction was as graceless and childish as Ms. Sturtz’s interruption.

    “I’m leaving.”

    Oh? You’re going to take your toys and go home because someone didn’t play nice?

    “One of the things that I don’t do well is this…”

    Public speaking? Answering questions? Dealing with irate citizens? Then practice until you can do it well. As is, you’ve behaved like a witless incompetent.

    The First Lady is a political figure in a democracy, not the Queen of England or a Diva on stage at the Met. This is part of her job. A citizen asked her a question about her husband’s administration during a fundraiser. Threatening to go home and sulk is neither an admirable nor an acceptable response.

  11. Kev C says

    Little Kiwi is correct. But he seems to forget that Obama nullified a judges ruling on DADT that made discrimination against gays in the military unconstitutional. IT TOO can be reversed with an executive order or new bill. DADT can be reinstated in the future because of Obama’s action to moot a judges ruling.

  12. beeb says

    Embarrassed? This is the gay movement today. Messing with Michelle could backfire with the general public though. It’s awkward when people supposedly with the same agenda go at it. I’m sure FOX will love it.

  13. rocky says

    Bryan: You don’t heckle first ladies and their children. The citizen did NOT ASK QUESTION, the citizen rudely disrupted her speech at a private event in someone’s home. This was not some public townhall meeting.

  14. bambinoitaliano says

    Pick your battles. The first lady is not the opponent of LGBT rights. Neither came out looking good.

  15. Michael Bedwell says

    “Little Kiwi,” the pathological Obambot who’s not even an American citizen but presumes to keep lecturing Americans on how we should act just keeps pulling the same Big Lie out of his ass in the theory that, like all Big Liars, if he repeats it often enough other will believe it. FAIL. Here are FACTS, both historical and contemporary.

    First, claiming a presidential order provides no “actual” protections is just plain retarded. As for his other desperate excuses, yes, attention from an actual doctor would be better for people injured in a massive car wreck but would that give anyone else an excuse not to administer whatever first aid they could? Or because they might die anyway—the equivalent of his why do it if it could be reversed? FACT: with the stroke of a pen Mr. Obama could help protect tens of thousands of LGBT employees TODAY—yes, ACTUALLY. No executive order expanding equal opportunity I’m aware of was EVER reversed by a subsequent president. Not FDR’s WWII orders that ACTUALLY protected blacks from discrimination in employment by government agencies and, wait for it, FEDERAL CONTRACTORS. Nor Truman’s 1948 order that ACTUALLY resulted in the racial integration of the military—all when America was 1000 times more racist than it is homophobic today. Neither was President Clinton’s 1993 directive that ACTUALLY kept military recruits from being asked and immediately turned away if they were gay even as his hopes of lifting the ban entirely were torpedoed, nor was his 1998 order STILL ACTUALLY protecting gay and lesbian civilian employees of the federal government. One of Bush II’s agency heads said he wouldn’t abide by it, but the Administration publicly declared all still would even as they exploited homophobia at the polls. Which brings us to Mr. Obama’s disingenuousness. Thus far, he has issued 154 executive orders, plus multiple memoranda, one of which in June 2009 added ACTUAL protections for transgender federal civilian employees to Clinton’s order. Sooooooo, if all these other issues justified his issuing so many orders and memoranda, justified not “waiting for legislation,” and one of them protected transgendered people in the same way he promised to protect them along with gays in the federal contractor work force—WHY hasn’t he kept this campaign promise?

  16. Michaelandfred says

    If it had been an angry sandyhook parent wanting answers on the dismal gun failure I bet she would have taken time to speak to her. If the First Lady can hold fundraisers and extol on how democrats can help by voting out republicans in 2014 (also part of her speech) then she’s acting as some kind of surrogate for the administration. You can’t really have it both ways. She’s political from her out, just not from out in because know we’re all rude and it’s not her job.

    ENDA is a huge deal and even if an executive can be repealed, an extremely rare occurrence, it doesn’t have to mean one or the other. IF the Dems and administration are really working towards a final solution, why not put in place some safeguards between now and then. Why let millions suffer for years because hopefully someday a total solution will be found. With the current gerrymandering we might not win the house back for a decade or more.

    It would have been far more politic for the First Lady to listen to her grievance for five minutes, explain she doesn’t make policy but appreciates her passion and feels for her and promises to pass on her message if she’ll continue to work hard in her side to help get democrats elected. THAT’S what she would have said to a sandyhook parent.

  17. Michaelandfred says

    If it had been an angry sandyhook parent wanting answers on the dismal gun failure I bet she would have taken time to speak to her. If the First Lady can hold fundraisers and extol on how democrats can help by voting out republicans in 2014 (also part of her speech) then she’s acting as some kind of surrogate for the administration. You can’t really have it both ways. She’s political from her out, just not from out in because know we’re all rude and it’s not her job.

    ENDA is a huge deal and even if an executive can be repealed, an extremely rare occurrence, it doesn’t have to mean one or the other. IF the Dems and administration are really working towards a final solution, why not put in place some safeguards between now and then. Why let millions suffer for years because hopefully someday a total solution will be found. With the current gerrymandering we might not win the house back for a decade or more.

    It would have been far more politic for the First Lady to listen to her grievance for five minutes, explain she doesn’t make policy but appreciates her passion and feels for her and promises to pass on her message if she’ll continue to work hard in her side to help get democrats elected. THAT’S what she would have said to a sandyhook parent.

  18. Kenneth says

    Yes, Michael, or whichever troll you truly are…President Obama has the worst record for helping the gay community of any president alive or dead. He is SOOOO disingenuous, and has done absolutely NOTHING for the LGBT community. Obviously, you are correct. How dare, anyone, least of all a Canadian, support this traitorous President. Get over yourself. Little Kiwi is absolutely correct that legislative action is superior to an executive order. If he is unsuccessful pushing that through the worst, and perhaps least effective congress ever, he can still exercise the option of an executive order, he is only a half a year into this term. I am certain Mittens would have done sooooo much more for us.

  19. MrRoboto says

    I think this is a mess for everyone and has diminished the gracefulness that I thought the First Lady carried herself with. I understand being offended by the interruption, but she could have acknowledged the woman’s LEGITIMATE complaint and moved along with far more class.

    But to the point suggested by Littlekiwi (who I like tremendously) that an executive order would do little, that’s just patently false. An executive order, which President Obama PROMISED and then backed off of and now refuses to deliver on, would cover nearly 22% of the U.S. workforce, as it covers all federal government employees and all employees covered by business signing on to government contracts. That’s a humongous amount of U.S. citizens. Yes, it can theoretically be undone by a future Republican president. But if put in place as early as possible in this president’s second term, it could stay in place for 2-3 years and demonstrate to the country that forbidding discrimination for 22% of U.S. workers hurts no one and actually benefits us all, and it might cause the other 78% of U.S. workers to demand that their government representatives get to work passing ENDA, thereby covering everyone.

  20. Josh says

    More grandstanding from the impotent GetEQUAL.

    Way to go after an ally.

    Morons.

  21. Michael Bedwell says

    Oh, Kenneth, Sweetie, you must have REALLY long arms in order to be able to reach THAT far up your ass to pull out that old moldy cheese excuse, “Just give Obama more time.” Bottom line: you’re just another Queer Quisling who really means: “Why can’t you just leave Britnery, er, Barack alone???”

  22. Ted says

    I like Michelle. She’s sassy. I would have handled it the same way. If you have something worthwhile to say…do it respectfully and people will listen. Do it rudely, and people will turn against you. Common courtesy.

  23. Trust says

    Props and respect to our First Lady. Shame on GetEqual … during an event about CHILDREN no less. What an embarrassment.

  24. Kenneth says

    Troll, I am not and would never be your sweetie, but at least it’s just my long arms up my ass, unlike your head up yours.

  25. Sean says

    One of the earlier posts lost me at “retarded”. Nice. The President did not promise an executive order. He promised ENDA. An executive order is only a temporary fix-it has to be enforced. The next president, like G.W. Bush, can ignore it. Like DADT, the best path is to pass the legislation. An executive order only serves to give the impression of a President going around Congress. Upset that ENDA is still on the agenda? What were you doing in 2010? Did you stand behind this president, did you vote? If we want ENDA to pass, get off your butts and put your efforts into turning the House back to the Democrats. Heckling, bitching and whining is a waste of energy.

  26. andy says

    “she handled it brilliantly” ? Um, no, she didn’t “handle” it at all. She acted like a petulant child and that woman asked a valid question that deserved a response. To handle it would’ve been to answer her. She just lost MAJOR points with me. And to all you saying the “heckler” was rude or inappropriate, name one single right obtained by just sitting back and waiting for people to come around without some civil disobedience. I’ll wait.

  27. sid says

    To me, it was Michelle Obama who came across as rude, self-righteous, pompous, arrogant, inconsiderate and hypocritical.

    I for one don’t at all care for this liberal “back of the bus” attitude. And please, enough of the Republicans are worse excuse.

    If a democrat wants my vote and my donation – he or she needs to earn it.

  28. balabanov11 says

    I’m so tired of professionally gay media whores doing stupid things that
    a)aren’t appropriate
    b)aren’t effective
    c)reflect BADLY on the political progress we had made as a community.

    This was a useless attack on an ally. If getEQUAL wants to be a help to the community, they should move past the tired 80’s tactics and enter the 21 century.

  29. EchtKultig says

    Well, nerdy-cute Jay Carney, she certainly didn’t handle it brilliantly. She seemed more flustered than the situation would have warranted. But, I still think it was inappropriate to heckle her. Very well, she serves in a quasi-political role as most first spouses do, but she’s NOT a politician. There’s a big difference. Who would they heckle next? Malia?

  30. brian says

    While I don’t disagree with the question posed, I do think it could have been handled more effectively and without interrupting her speech. Like others have stated, it feeds a stereotype about gays and lesbians that doesn’t need to be fed.

  31. EchtKultig says

    And furthermore, the idealists don’t understand how DC works. Here’s tonight’s lesson in realpolitik: Maybe Obama has an executive order on the agenda if ENDA doesn’t seem to be making traction. You can’t just go around willy nilly doing everything YOU think is right when you have a House of Rep. whose majority think that thing is _wrong_. Sorry. That’s just the ugly truth of it. Obama is no saint but he’s been the most pro-gay president ever and has done what he could reasonably do w/o seeming to make the entire focus of his presidency gay rights. Which would among other things possibly offend his other constituencies. For those of you living sheltered lives in gay ghettoes on the coasts*, you may not realize what a huge sea change the DADT reversal has caused and will continue to cause in middle America. That was really the best place to start reversing the reactionary Bush years (2004 anti-gay ballot initiatives, etc).

    * – oui, je trolle un peu.

  32. EchtKultig says

    Even more obviously, to sign an executive order would give faux-news watching tea party zombies something new to foam at the mouth about. And, there may be a time and a place for that; but I think this administration has found out that right-wing mouth foaming initiation must be carried out in an orderly way. It’s like a breaking an angry animal: a little a time is the best approach. Wear it down. He has 3 1/2 more years. Be patient.

    BTW I do think his administration has problems. Every administration does. The DOJ phone records scandal is troubling as are some of Holder’s other actions. (Benghazi is a complete hoax of a scandal, and IRS gate is just, well, the IRS being idiots.) This just isn’t one of them, yet.

  33. Superboy says

    I think she could have handle it better because the question wasn’t all that out of context, because a really good way to protect children is to protect the job of their parents because you know if you don’t have a job= no money= no food for the kids+ other essentials.

  34. says

    Michelle was there as an unelected official, giving a talk on a different subject. The heckler (or whatever you want to call them) really wasn’t in the right. She should go to the people who actually can change law. Maybe Michelle and Barack don’t care to talk about politics at the dinner table for her to try and convince him to sign the executive order into law.

  35. TruthSerum says

    I feel it should be done legislatively whether he “could” sign an executive order or not. This fight is also a cultural shift and would be better served changing the hearts and minds of people as we’ve done rather than imposing it on the country. This may anger some folks, but race and sexuality are not the same and do not need to be handled in the identical manner.

  36. EchtKultig says

    Looks like you two are the idiots:
    http://actupny.com/actions/index.php/the-community

    December 1995: ACT UP, Housing Works, and POZ Magazine organize march of 100 activists outside the White House Conference on AIDS, denouncing it as a Clinton re-election ploy. Inside, an ACT UP member interrupts Clinton’s speech, demanding to know why he has not taken actions as recommended by Bush’s AIDS Commission.

  37. Frank says

    Excuse me, but didn’t Clinton sign both DOMA and DADT into law when he was President; and didn’t he just get an award from Glaad as an advocate for change? As for your example, congratulations. I’m glad that you could dig deep and find one of the few examples of protest against Clinton from gay activists. All Obama has done is not sign an executive order on federal employment discrimination. To hear some of the commenters on this site, as well as others in the gay press tell it, you’d think he was out there actively campaigning against the gay community. There’s holding people accountable then these being completely delusional. People need to really know the difference when forming expectations from public officials.

  38. Frank says

    Again, Clinton comes out against DADT twenty years after he signs it. Nothing but praise. Obama comes out for gay marriage four years after he’s elected President? Scorn, cynicism, and cries of using gays for politics and to little to late.

  39. Frank says

    Again, Clinton comes out against DADT twenty years after he signs it. Nothing but praise. Obama comes out for gay marriage four years after he’s elected President? Scorn, cynicism, and cries of using gays for politics and to little to late.

  40. johnny says

    Quick, everyone run away and hide the children!

    It’s the giant, angry black lady battling the tiny, pushy lesbian!

    Watch as this non-news incident is turned into a major motion picture!

    Coming this summer to Fox News outlets everywhere!

  41. johnny says

    I think it’s interesting how everyone loves the serene, elegant flotus but hardly anyone likes the angry, in-your-face flotus.

    Two sides to the same person, she is who she is and did what she felt was right in the moment. She’s only human, folks.

  42. ratbastard says

    Please. Michelle Obama sounded like a pompous arse. One of the things she doesn’t do well? Are you kidding me? She’s a professional lawyer and as much a politician as her husband, the president. She is not a private citizen or some nobody. And she was a stand in for the president at that event. This makes her fair game. I would have been impressed and have nice things to say if she had handled the situation differently, at the very least defused it in a calm and respectful manner. She handled it like a prima donna.

    These people at the upper ranks in politics, especially the federal level in DC, live in a bubble. They should be confronted and brought down a peg or two when ever possible. Keeps them on their toes.

    And the crowd were obviously mostly party shills and true believers. Considering who they are and where the event took place,they should be ashamed of themselves. If more media, individuals, and groups told these politicians they won’t play their anymore, things would change for the better. Tactics like denying access to those deemed troublesome would cease to work. We might then actually have a real press conference with real, tough questions.

  43. rick scatorum says

    Why do we have to yell in order to be heard?

    If a rep wants to overturn an exec order, let him. Won’t fly these days

  44. anon says

    Michael Bedwell! Where have you been? And have you seen Leland Francis?

    Please comment if you know what I’m talking about.

  45. Randy says

    The public radio station I listen to tried to turn this into a “gays are racist” issue.

    We cannot let them turn this avoidance of public scrutiny into a race issue.

  46. EchtKultig says

    “See what I just did there.”

    Yep, Frank, you made yourself look even more stupid and insecure.

  47. EchtKultig says

    Agreed Randy. And some trolls right here are trying to turn it into that.

  48. Ray says

    Bryan, Laura Bush told a heckler to shut up.

    The Frist Lady is not the person you should be demanding answers from.

    That seems like a no brainer to me.