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Did Trayvon Martin Fear George Zimmerman Was A 'Rapist' Pursuing Him Sexually?: VIDEO

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In her first interview since George Zimmerman was acquitted on all counts in the murder of Trayvon Martin, Martin's friend, Rachel Jeantel, who was thrust into the eye of a media storm after she gave testimony about the phone call she had with Martin moments before he was shot and who just yesterday was labeled "not credible" by the mysterious Juror B37, told CNN's Piers Morgan that she and Martin feared that Zimmerman was a "rapist" and was sexually motivated in his pursuit of Martin. Mediaite reports:

"He was 'freaked out' about [Zimmerman pursuing him], she said, especially after she had suggested to the late teenager that Zimmerman 'might be a rapist.'

She explained that because Martin was not a homosexual, he was troubled by the actions of Zimmerman: 'For every boy or every man who’s not that kind of way,' she said, 'seeing a grown man following them, would they be creeped out?'

Jeantel continued: 'You have to take it as a parent, when you tell your child, you see a grown person following you, run away, and all that. You going to tell your child stand there? If you tell your child stand there, then you’re going to see your child on the news for missing person.'"

Watch a clip of Morgan's lengthy interview that highlights the sexuality question AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. Perhaps this comment is a little off-point for this post, but I don't see a better place to put it:

    Keep an eye on Sen.Rand Paul & Sen.Ted Cruz joining NY Sen. Gillibrand in her effort to reform military prosecution of sexual assaults.

    With statistics claiming that 50% of such crimes are men-on-men, I'll bet they see this committee as a golden opportunity to advance their long-held homophobic views, especially in regard to gays in the military

    Beware!

    Posted by: JONNY NYNY2FLFL | Jul 17, 2013 8:40:49 AM


  2. She doesn't sound (or look) credible to me either.

    Posted by: UFFDA | Jul 17, 2013 8:48:50 AM


  3. SMH and this changes the fact that George Zimmerman started this, and Trayvon Martin is dead, how? Is someone trying to claim Trayvon Martin hate crimed George Zimmerman, beyond a certain person in yesterday's thread?

    Posted by: Zeta | Jul 17, 2013 8:49:34 AM


  4. I wish she hadn't brought this up. The last thing this horrible tragedy needs is a gay panic reference.

    Posted by: Terry | Jul 17, 2013 8:53:17 AM


  5. He was following Trayvon (a child) around in a car in the dark and wouldn't let him go. he was also clearly a large man. Gay Panic isn't applicable here. it would be pedophile panic.

    I have known I was gay since 4 years old and I would have been as terrified of potential rape too.

    Ive already seen conservatives try and turn this into a homophobic issue. funny how they only care about us when its convenient to shame another targeted group. We don't have to fall for their games. Lets do better Towleroad.

    Posted by: Eric | Jul 17, 2013 8:57:49 AM


  6. So, in other words, this is all the Gay's fault.

    Posted by: 1♥ | Jul 17, 2013 9:00:09 AM


  7. Plenty of guys, gay straight or indifferent. would be creeped out by the likes of Zimmerman following them. But Rachel Jeantal's story doesn't explain why Martin would then jump on Zimmerman rather than fleeing. It's not like Martin couldn't outrun that porker.

    Posted by: Hank | Jul 17, 2013 9:02:02 AM


  8. It's not irrational for anyone of any gender or sexual orientation to worry about sexual assault when being followed by a random strange older man. And since most male-male sexual assault is perpetrated by men who aren't gay, it's not about Zimmerman's sexual orientation either. Rachel Jeantel put it in a slightly homophobic way ("not that kind of way"), but her basic point is a reasonable one. And it's not "gay panic" either; we're talking about being followed by a strange man at night, that's not an innocent or unthreatening activity.

    Posted by: Fodolodo | Jul 17, 2013 9:11:11 AM


  9. I am "that kind of way" and I would have been creeped out too if that loser was following me.

    Posted by: ripper | Jul 17, 2013 9:12:10 AM


  10. Hank, Zimmerman has gained 100 pounds since he killed Trayvon. I would never know it was the same person. Could be stress eating. Conspiracy theorists suggest it was done on purpose. Either way, the guy sitting in the courtroom looked MUCH less intimidating than the one chasing Trayvon that night.

    Posted by: Roger | Jul 17, 2013 9:13:07 AM


  11. I guess what we should take from most of the commenters is that we should listen to her when she says something that agrees with our biased opinions, but ignore that which disagrees with our opinion. It wrecks the racial narrative that people want to create.

    And Trayvon is not a child. He is a young man. Not an adult, but he is not a child.

    Posted by: Sean | Jul 17, 2013 9:15:48 AM


  12. @Hank.

    On the night of the killing, Zimmerman was in decent shape. He has really packed on the pounds since he was arrested.

    But I agree, the one thing that has been overlooked in this case is Martin's perspective: that he was, in fact, doing nothing, and had this guy start following him around. Some people (me included) would find that creepy, and I think Martin had ample reason to defend himself against a perceived threat.

    Posted by: Talisman | Jul 17, 2013 9:17:03 AM


  13. Sean, shouldn't you be self hating and watching Hannity right now?

    Posted by: Eric | Jul 17, 2013 9:31:00 AM


  14. TRAYVON MARTIN was considerably taller then Zimmerman, I doubt he was intimidated.

    Posted by: Rob West | Jul 17, 2013 9:33:01 AM


  15. because you have to be shorter than somebody to be intimidated?

    Posted by: Eric | Jul 17, 2013 9:37:47 AM


  16. As a parent I would tell my child to call him a "creepy ass cracker" then tell him he was going to die. Then I would suggest having him go forward with an attempt to kill him.

    Posted by: me | Jul 17, 2013 9:46:31 AM


  17. @Hank and @Talisman:
    [W]e're talking about being followed by a strange man at night...."
    "[T]he one thing that has been overlooked in this case is Martin's perspective: that he was, in fact, doing nothing, and had this guy start following him around."

    COMMENT: I always imagined that the neighborhood watch used some visible insignia to prevent the effect you guys are describing. If not, that would indeed be a valid consideration. At the same time, it is beyond belief that Z. never identified himself--just as a plainclothes police officer would do.

    Posted by: ernstroehm's ghost | Jul 17, 2013 9:48:12 AM


  18. It really hampers you in life when you can't speak the language adequately. Part of the reason she's not credible is the crazy way she destroys common rules of grammar and syntax. Did her parents fail her? The public school system? Did she not have smarts enough to look at average youtube videos and realize what she was speaking was English-mangling Ebonics?

    Posted by: will | Jul 17, 2013 10:02:53 AM


  19. Someone above referred to Trayvon as a "child"? I think that is pushing it. He was 17 and pretty tall. A minor? Definitely. But a child?

    I want to be clear I think Zimmerman is 100% culpable in the death of Trayvon Martin. But Trayvon was not a child in the typical use of that word. Nor does he need to be to have done nothing wrong. This was my problem the entire time were the false things said about him by both sides of this debate. It should not matter in the slightest if he was tall, short, young, old, gay, straight, or otherwise. Zimmerman had no right to approach him on the street and was explicitly told by officers NOT to do it.

    We will never know precisely what happened that night. But I feel comfortable believing Trayvon would be alive had Zimmerman acted responsibly. And that should have been enough for a manslaughter conviction.

    Posted by: Logan | Jul 17, 2013 10:03:05 AM


  20. @Eric, sorry to burst your bubble, but at the time of the incident, TM was over 6 feet tall, 6 inches taller than GZ, and they weighed about the same, so this whole "little kid and big bad man" narrative is a lie. Stick to only facts please.

    Posted by: JY | Jul 17, 2013 10:12:44 AM


  21. Logan, you too. Zimmerman had every right to approach him, the same as anyone has the right to ask someone for directions or walk behind anyone else for that matter. Also, he was not told by officer, he was told by a random phone operator, and therefore, that person's not law enforcement and their instructions are, at best, suggestions.

    Posted by: JY | Jul 17, 2013 10:15:04 AM


  22. @ZETA, RE: "the fact that George Zimmerman started this"

    With regard to the fight itself, Z. is the only living person who knows the about the first blow. He claims that Martin struck first. With regard to the whole incident, it is true that Z. "started it" by performing his legitimate role as a neighborhood watchman. The neighborhood watch has a right to exist. It has the right to follow people because you can't spot a crime without following suspicious people. It is true that he police dept. dispatcher told Z. to stop following Martin, but that was only advice--nothing more. (The police dispatcher is not a law enforcement officer; he is like a 911 operator.) In following a suspicious character (who, by way, turned-out to be nobody's idea of an eagle scout!) Zimmerman was just doing his job.

    When blame for a conflict must be assigned, there is a principle known as "escalation." This means that either Martin or else Zimmerman took the conflict beyond words, and raised it up to the level of actual violence. Generally, the law focuses on the party who committed the first violent deed, not on the party who spoke the first word. In all likelihood, Trayvon Martin was the one who escalated the conflict into actual violence.

    Posted by: ernstroehm's ghost | Jul 17, 2013 10:15:46 AM


  23. @JY please read my post again as your "facts" were misplaced. I neither disputed that Trayvon was taller nor said they didn't weigh the same. size does not equate to intimidation.

    Posted by: Eric | Jul 17, 2013 10:17:28 AM


  24. I'm on a neighborhood watch - we don't have special clothing. But the first thing the police representative said to us on our first meeting was: "If you see something suspicious, call the police and let us do our job. Do not take the law into your own hands". If Zimmerman had followed the dispatcher's instructions, Trayvon Martin would be alive today and Zimmerman would be just another annoying neighbor.

    Posted by: Hank | Jul 17, 2013 10:17:32 AM


  25. Alright, that's it for me. No more support for the JusticeForTrayvon movement from me until I hear some repudiation of this disgusting anti-gay bigotry. I'm not standing with a little bigoted gay-basher.

    Posted by: Skeptical Cicada | Jul 17, 2013 10:21:23 AM


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