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PM David Cameron Wants To Export Gay Marriage Around The World

6a00d8341c730253ef0192aa1ec345970d-300wiThe Telegraph reports that British Prime Minister David Cameron plans to use Britain's recent success in granting gay couples marriage equality as a spring-board to export gay marriage abroad.

At a special reception for the LGBT community at 10 Downing Street celebrating the marriage equality victory, Cameron remarked that the United Kingdom is "the best place to be gay, lesbian or transgender anywhere in Europe." Unless perhaps you have a serious porn addiction. Despite the jubilant and congratulatory atmosphere, Cameron did not seem content to rest on his laurels. After thanking the ministers and civil servants who helped push the marriage equality bill through, the Prime Minister shared his plans for the future:

"I’ve told the Bill team I’m now going to reassign them because, of course, all over the world people would have been watching this piece of legislation and we’ve set something, I think, of an example of how to pass good legislation in good time. Many other countries are going to want to copy this. And, as you know, I talk about the global race, about how we’ve got to export more and sell more so I’m going to export the bill team. I think they can be part of this global race and take it around the world.”

Indeed, Cameron did pass legislation in the UK in good time, much sooner than 2015, the date by which he originally promised to pass make marriage equality a reality. Though the path to equality in Britain was far from smooth, it remains unclear how the Prime Minister plans to take any lessons learned in the UK and apply them internationally.

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  1. Why is this not sitting right with me?

    Posted by: whitneyisadude | Jul 25, 2013 12:45:10 PM


  2. he could start with australia.

    Posted by: candide001 | Jul 25, 2013 12:45:34 PM


  3. I wonder if he means that he will press the issue with the countries that make up the British Commonwealth. I'm unclear what, if any, political/social influence Britain still has in these nations, but, if that's what he means, the mere fact that he's talking about it is monumental.

    Posted by: Jere | Jul 25, 2013 12:59:27 PM


  4. Oh, and, of course, there's still marriage equality to be won in Scotland and Northern Ireland, where the local Parliments will have to vote. As PM, Cameron presumeably DOES have some influence in Belfast and Edinburgh.

    Posted by: Jere | Jul 25, 2013 1:04:21 PM


  5. Perhaps our American friends can take note. Get on with it.

    Posted by: Henry | Jul 25, 2013 1:14:37 PM


  6. "The best place to be gay, lesbian or transgender anywhere in Europe."
    -Hyperbole, much, Mr. Cameron?

    Methinks Spain and The Netherlands might disagree (having passed pro-gay legislation years before the UK)!

    Posted by: MFinBH | Jul 25, 2013 1:22:31 PM


  7. Northern Ireland could have had gay marriage, but the unionist-protestant bigots in the northern Irish assembly blocked it. As usual, Sinn Fein supported gay rights in the six county statelet.

    Posted by: Ryan | Jul 25, 2013 1:27:29 PM


  8. The Soviet Union used to be the exporter of ideology. It will be viewed as "gay propaganda" in today Russia. It will
    start another Cold War by dividing the World into pro-gay and anti-gay camps.

    Posted by: simon | Jul 25, 2013 2:25:08 PM


  9. Cameron, wait, you're pro gay marriage but anti-porn?

    Posted by: Ulu | Jul 25, 2013 3:25:12 PM


  10. A bold statement that may be counterproductive, acceptence comes from understanding and consensus among the different places we live, since all societies have not the same cultural backgrounds, "imposing Gay marriage" are three words that don't go togheter

    Posted by: MArk | Jul 25, 2013 4:13:05 PM


  11. The Unionist bigots in Northern Ireland block all sexual equality legislation; they deliberately foster an atmosphere in society where gays are routinely attacked on the streets.

    Well after all, they are the ancestors of the evangelical Protestants in the USA.
    Now the UK doesn't want them and they have to survive entirely on massive subsidies from their anachronistic attachment to the Battle of the Boyne, 1691. Small wonder they vote to be part of the UK.....it's called fear of survival.

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Jul 25, 2013 4:13:36 PM


  12. He knows he won't get criticism from Labor on this, so he gets to grandstand ad nauseum. However, things went much more smoothly in France.

    Posted by: anon | Jul 25, 2013 5:08:56 PM


  13. Let us not forget 1\2 the tories in Parliament voted against this Equal Marriage Act - and still it was passed by a 2\3 majority because of overwhelming support of the OTHER partys.
    But thanks for your support Dave, you still need to iron out the still existing Transgender discrimination in the laws of England and the surviving same sex spouse pension discrimination before we have to take you to the European Court for Equality violations.

    Posted by: renovato | Jul 25, 2013 6:08:04 PM


  14. One should remember that New Zeland and Canada are ahead of England and Wales (as also is France....) and that Scotland and NI are nto there yet. Nevertheless I think there is a sense in which adoption of marriage equality in Great Britain (hoping Northern Ireland follows at some stage) is important and will encourage others. As Zapatero said in Spain when their marriage equality law went into effect "We are not the first and we won't be the last". That is also true - manifestly - of England and Wales.

    What I am saying is on one level a little Anglo-centric, but Britain basically exported sodomy laws to the wider parts of the world (including the early American colonies) and then justified their existence (see the Bowers v Hardwick ruling as well as the many countries that retain this legislation).

    There is this interplay between Bowers and Lawrence v Texas that is very interesting to observe. The infamous Bowers ruling references English common law - Blackstone's commentaries that also provided the US with an early summary of the common law. Lawrence v Texas under the skilful pen of Kennedy confronts that in two ways. He references European Court rulings (against the UK as it happens) and the facts relating to decriminlaisation in the UK, combined with an argument that antiquity is in itself no inherent justification.

    The parallel with marriage is almost exact, with Alito (in oral arguments and his Windsor dissent) referencing thousands of years which we cannot change. If it is thousands of years then it becomes coterminous with the reasoning of Blackstone's commentaries and the inheritance of law received from England/Britain prior to the Revolution and the adoption of the Constitution (that is to say that the original (prerevolutionary) political laws of the US are colonial and derived in nature (as evidenced in Bowers). I must confess here I do not knnow what the marriage laws and customs were prior to the creation of England (?927) as I haven't seen scholarly studies on it. The point is however that both anti-sodomy laws and the outlawing of same sex marriage were both derived from England/Great Britain. Kennedy has already ruled one unconstitutional - now we await the other shoe to drop (the first shoe to drop in my view was the Lwrence rulng).

    I don't know Cameron will export gay marriage. On the ther hand the UK embracing it won't do any harm.

    Posted by: Craig Nelson | Jul 25, 2013 6:44:56 PM


  15. Things went more smoothly in France? Seriously? Riots, beatings, a very public suicide by a right-wing/uber-religious crank, continuing public demonstrations by anti-equality groups and an increase in homophobic attacks? Erm...

    Posted by: Zygotic_mynci | Jul 26, 2013 4:48:52 AM


  16. Point of correction about the use of "Britain" and "the United Kingdom" in this - the legislation only applies in England and Wales.

    Re: Jere - David Cameron has no influence in Edinburgh on this issue where, in any case, gay marriage is now inevitable thanks to cross party support of the Bill before the Scottish Parliament.

    Posted by: Greg | Jul 26, 2013 5:25:48 AM


  17. I have to laugh at David Cameron's comments. I agree gay people have amongst the best living condition's in the advanced world. But what shocks me is his ignorance of trying to compare transgendered people the same as gay. They are not.

    Britain is not the best place to be a transsexual in the world. High levels of unemployment abound, and discrimination on access to health and housing abound. Indeed the DWP and various state agencies discriminate against transgendered people by refusing to legally recognise the gender recognition act on state systems. There is currently a legal challenge at the moment going through. Cameron needs to get real. I would argue there are other far better nations to be a transgendered person than Britain.

    Posted by: Catherine | Jul 26, 2013 7:55:30 AM


  18. ""The best place to be gay, lesbian or transgender anywhere in Europe."
    -Hyperbole, much, Mr. Cameron? "

    This was supposedly true even before gay marriage. The UK has some of the best equality laws of anywhere. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-j1nKt7TNTm4/TdIyk-qRveI/AAAAAAAADhI/6N2Jazw0mDk/s1600/RainbowMapEurope.JPG

    Posted by: Jay | Jul 26, 2013 1:56:19 PM


  19. The people of sodom tried to force themselves upon lot, showing us a lifestyle that seeks to force itself upon others, GENESIS:19 The values of a liberal are very dangerous if there’s no compassion for a child then how much are you worth? IS money be -hind it all. When I hear people say they were born that way. It sounds like what their saying is that if they would of had one they would of choose differently. a little twist there, ay. Anytime your in a position to say yes or know you do have a choice. So what do you choose? ?? YOU MIGHT WANT TO READ A BLOG, TYPE, BLOG, (YOUNEED TOREAD ) TYPE AS TWO WORDS, CRITICAL. Anyone wondering if they could do something about it ?

    Check out, mass resistance org You can find out what some have in mind for public schools, to warped to mention. And if you don’t do something today what will tomorrow be like. When the kids become the target someone should have the courage to say enough. People should be very careful of what they find themselves in agreement with. They may be found where they don't want to be ! ! click on user name for more, even some in french, WEWE I wonder if sodom loved kids as much as Americans do ?? If you don't think about the future of your kids or grandkids someone else will. And if you don’t spend time with your kid’s someone else will. Now that yahoo has changed its format i had to find an old site. So if you would like to read the debates go to Unorthodox Celeb Moms and click on youneed

    Posted by: YOUNEED | Jul 27, 2013 11:06:08 PM


  20. Jay,

    THE UK doesn't have the best equality laws for transgendered at all. I am currently taking the UK government to judicial review I can't give my real name over continued second class treatment by government department's of transgendered people.

    I don't call a 75 per cent unemployment rate of transgendered people in UK a result that speaks that the UK is a good country to be transgenered. Gay yes, transgendered no.

    Posted by: Catherine | Jul 31, 2013 1:09:11 PM


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