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  1. Mike says

    What an idiot! Marxists and communists believe there should be no classes or class distinctions. Capitalism depends on income classes. America, pay attention! This is what happens when you let right wing morons home school.

  2. MIleHighJoe says

    Oh, Rick. Let’s stick to the small words. And the small ideas. I know you wanna sound smart, but you’re just going to hurt yourself.

    #homeschooled

  3. andrew says

    Just recall with the same pleasure I do that Santorum, who was the third ranking Republican Senator, was defeated by over 700,000 votes the last time he ran for reelection in Pennsylvania.

  4. Mary says

    I understand the hostility here toward Rick Santorum. But why this constant attack against homeschooling (and for the record I myself was never homeschooled)? Until very recently in history there were no public schools. Unless you were wealthy and could afford tutors for your children, “homeschooling” in some form or another (from a parent, or possibly an older child learning on his own from books and workbooks) was the only kind of schooling option you had.

    The modern homeschooling movement (from 1960 onward) was actually created by people on the cultural Left who found ordinary schools to be stifling of individuality and too enamored of the existing political structure. Ironically, now the homeschooling movement is associated in the public mind with right-wing religious people.

    I’ll ask a question: if homeschooling were still linked with the cultural Left wouldn’t more people on Towleroad and other liberal websites be extolling its virtues? claiming that homeschooling is tailored to the individual and is more likely to result in a person becoming a thinker and questioner?

    I have never heard an argument against homeschooling that doesn’t boil down to people being annoyed that children aren’t going to be given learning materials written by liberals.

    Sorry. I know I ventured off topic here.

  5. Moz's says

    @ Mary

    this SALON article might help you

    http://www.salon.com/2012/03/15/homeschooled_and_illiterate/

    many stories about home-schoolers who were barely literate when they graduated,

    also many studies are now coming out showing home schooled children barely passing standardized tests or failing miserably

    add to that the lack of social interaction

    i.e. a catholic family (am catholic raised as well so one would expect me to be somewhat sympathetic to their uber catholicism) across the street with 7 kids and another on the way have home schooled all their children and they are all scared of their own shadows let alone unable to interact with anyone not a blood relative

    home schooling is showing it is a failure to even provide a basic education and failing miserable on raising kids who will be able to interact with a modern 21st century world

    also; on your mentioning about the past…..YES and the vast majority of every population was illiterate. illiteracy was only defeated with the introduction of non religious PUBLIC education

  6. anon says

    Homeschooling has proven by statistics to produce above-average students achievement-wise, though the longitudinal studies have been subject to complaints about bias and bad data collection methods (like self-reporting issues).

    The term middle class is not Marxist, and it’s not a clear-cut term either in the US or in Europe, which does have a class system. In Europe, the two terms were Upper and Lower classes, but because of wealthy self-employed businessmen, the term bourgeoisie was employed by French and German socialists to separate them out from the other two classes. However, it applies mainly to the self-employed. Later, as corporations grew very large, you could no longer distinguish Carnegie from Cromwell so easily, so no terms didn’t hold their meanings, particularly after WWI. Economics use “quintiles” based on income brackets, which does not do so well to separate out liquid and non-liquid forms of wealth, or assets versus income. The middle class is generally those that work and generate savings form their wages, but who cannot live off of investment income alone or their fixed assets.

  7. Moz's says

    anon

    reality is just the opposite

    home schooling is showing the vast majority of home schooled children being practically illiterate and unable to interact with other humans who are non family members

    The statistics are now just coming in showing the results as the “home school generation” are coming into college age and unable to pass the most basic tests and get accepted into a non religious pat Robertson esque university

    Also the results from charter schools are now coming in showing a horrid failure with outright rigging of scores ala repub state officials in court cases now for fraud and changing results

    Get your nose out of the bible and pay attention to the news

  8. Mary says

    Moz’s, thank you for that link to the homeschooling article in Salon. I’ll check it out.

    I believe you are mistaken and that anon is correct about what the studies show regarding homeschooling. I tend to be skeptical of any studies showing that homeschoolers are illiterate, poorly educated, or maladjusted. This is very improbable considering that the people who homeschool their children are atypical and usually use some kind of homeschooling program designed by a professional. I have learned that the academic world will always manage to find damaging evidence against anything that threatens their interests.

    I do think that a good school (public or private) is preferable to home schooling. The question is how many kids today, even in middle class areas, have access to such schools?

  9. Kev C says

    Marx/Communists championed workers, which is a class, the working class, the proletariat, which is often confused or merges with the middle class. Communist John Lennon even wrote a song exhalting the working class.

  10. Geoff says

    Santorum has the ‘stupid’ market completely cornered. It’s been a toss-up between him and Rick Perry…back and forth. Rick may surprise us yet, though.

  11. Joe in Ct says

    Unfortunately, homeschoolers do get a bad rap. These parents are closely linked with religious conservatives like Santorum because they seem hell bent on insulating their children from inconvenient realities — both social and scientific — that contradict their fundamentalist belief systems or could cause their children to develop the ability to think critically and independently. Many parents who homeschool are generally in denial about a lot of things.

  12. Tarc says

    The middle class in the US was created by Henry Ford – a conservative. As usual, Santorum is lying incessantly and displaying his utter stupidity and utter lack of moral fiber.

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