Transgender Former Navy SEAL Kristin Beck Blasts Chelsea Manning: ‘a Traitor to Me Personally’

THE BIGGEST problem I have with the whole thing about Chelsea is that as a Transgender person and as an upstanding citizen and knowing many other transgender people who are beacons of righteousness AND that ALL Americans May become FREE. WE are right at a point in HISTORY were many people are beginning to understand who we are as Transgender, DIVERSE, and that we are just like everyone else…WE ARE ONE….now manning just dirtied the hope of a truly FREE America.

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. "I have a Dream" speech was 50 years ago….I am still hoping for HIS dream of equality for ALL. America to be a beacon of Freedom and equality, to see his dream of the "red hills" come alive. I am still dreaming of equality….
Manning is a tarnish on my dream, he is a tarnish on Dr. Kings Dream.

Comments

  1. Isaac says

    Holy crap!! Invoking an anti-war activist like Dr. King to slam Chelsea Manning is the height of hypocrisy. She exposed war crimes and showed that our “honorable” military committed war crimes on our behalf. This über loyalty to the military must stop. You know what else Dr. King said? That the US government is the biggest purveyor of violence in the world. Maybe focus on what he said about war before you use him to trash the bravery and self sacrifice that Chelsea displays.

  2. MaryM says

    Kristin Beck is deliberately misgendering Chelsea Manning.

    Kristin Beck looks like a big, burly truckdriver in a bad wig.

    He won’t mind me saying that as he is perfectly fine with transphobia as well.

  3. j says

    Just dreadful –
    If CM is using this to get a better prison assignment – more power to her!!
    Does this idiot not know the abusive conditions that manning was subjected to for months on end?
    Let him game the system – the US military essentially tortured him
    He should be awarded the congressional medal of honor for helping start the arab spring –
    Folks who killed innocent civilians in cold blood have been given less time then manning got –
    This tool is profoundly uniformed

  4. Reality says

    Manning used the fact that she was transgendered and confused as a reason for leaking the documents. Doesn’t that bother you pro-transgendered rights folks?

  5. Hagatha says

    Transgender is a load of crap. A person can play along only so long before your pop-psychology and made up “science” just falls flat on its ass. In other words, as long as it doesn’t matter- dress in drag, call yourself Sybrina, and get all the surgery you can afford. But when you start serving up hostile BS then it’s time to give you a little shake back to reality.

    You are not a woman. You will never be a woman. ALl you are is a self hating man, which when you consider the advantages of being a man makes you totally messed up.

  6. Zeta says

    @Reality, transfolk have rights, but Christopher Beck is correct that Manning is a traitor who’s a disgrace to transfolk. No, you won’t see the Manning groupies condemn Manning for the flimsy reasons Manning betrayed his country.

  7. scott says

    I am definitely a progressive and have fought, volunteered, and contributed to lots of progressive causes- that said- Manning isn’t a traitor or a hero to me.

    The Iraq Helicopter video and the leak about Dyncorp hiring a 17-yr old dancing boy were important, and, to me, he would’ve been a hero had he only released those. However, the initial leak of the War Logs-with un-redacted names-put American personnel, military and civilian in harm’s way. The subsequent leak of the diplomatic cables did nothing except to stmyie the efforts of the US State Dept. and make everyone feel they couldn’t trust us. There was nothing useful in them- aside from the Dyncorp-dancing boy revelation.

    I hate when uniformed, ridiculous liberals jump on news issues like this as a chance to bash the military- and yet, when there’s a photo of a gay military couple finally getting to experience some happiness, everyone coos. Yes, our military has done some horrible, awful things, and we should always be ready to expose and bring to the sunlight that which contradicts our country’s ideals. However, the majority of men and women in our military joined because they believe they can make a difference in this world, a good difference- like in Bosnia or in Haiti. Making generalized statements doesn’t help us, and makes us look worse, even more stupid than knee-jerk, racist, sexist, anti-gay conservatives.

  8. Chris says

    Wow, some honesty about the situation. Manning isn’t a hero, he leaked hundreds of thousands of documents without regard to content. He lucked out in that some of the documents contained some information that endeared him to certain political groups. The fact is that he also leaked private diplomatic cables, real time troop movements, military plans, and violated his oath,
    The fact that GLAAD, HRC, media and even Andy Towle have jumped to defend this criminal, who now claims transgender status, simply because he says so…should be embarrassing to us all.

  9. ratbastard says

    Manning is not a hero. He’s a very mentally unbalanced individual who should have been flagged early on and stopped from being put in any position where he could have caused mischief. He should have been booted from the army. He wasn’t and the question is why and who is responsible?

  10. says

    Yikes, well I guess I have to say it:

    Manning is a hero, that’s what they do, they take the hit and try to help people. She felt that this was important enough and is paying the price for that. I couldn’t define a more text book hero.

    This Kristin Beck has some issues, I don’t know her and I don’t care. Luckily for her when she was really figuring out her feelings there wasn’t some jerk manipulating every decision she made. People who do not familiarize themselves with Manning’s case can shut the hell up.

    Also, wow, you gay guys who are deciding that Trans people just don’t really exist? You don’t exist.

  11. Bill Perdue says

    Kristen Beck is a right wing pro-war thug. No one should be proud of being part of the US military murder machine. It’s disgusting.

    Chelsea Manning is a hero for exposing the war crimes mad dog warmongers like the Bushes, the Clintons and Obama who have, collectively, organized and ordered the murder and wounding of tens of thousands of GIs and hundreds of thousands of civilians from Libya to Pakistan.

  12. northalabama says

    becks statement makes no sense. manning at no time used gender identity as reasoning for the leaking of classified info. and it’s a stretch to imagine anyone using it to somehow gain an advantage in regards to prison accomodations. it seems more likely to make you more of a target in either situation.

    shame on kristen, and here’s hoping chelsae is able to deal with prison and her changing life.

  13. MaryM says

    People who regard Chelsea Manning as a criminal or a traitor can never seem to explain how Manning’s actions endangered a single American.

    This burly drag queen Beck is also unable to explain this.

  14. Tim says

    It’s like watching a brawl in an insane asylum. What does any of this have to do with gay people? Neither one of these people identifies as gay, so why is it being covered on a gay blog?

  15. Bill says

    I agree that Pvt. Manning is a traitor. We’re damn lucky that we got Don’t Ask/Don’t Tell repealed while the Manning affair was unfolding. Manning’s actions, coupled with the fact that he was gay or that she was transgendered, illustrate the excuses given for excluding gays from the military.

  16. JakeAZ says

    @Tim, Towleroad is “a site with homosexual tendencies”. It’s Andy’s site and it can have trans-tendencies too if it wants.

    And the trans-hatred around here sometimes is as rotten as the homo-hatred on the Christo-bagger sites.

  17. Dale says

    Very well said. How quickly someone goes from being a hero to a demon when they disagree with the liberal gays. Bradley Manning is a traitor, disgraced the uniform, is trying to blame his treacherous actions on his personal issues, and isn’t nearly getting enough time for his crime.

  18. John in Houston says

    Kristin Bell is wrong for so many reasons. She says that “What you[r] … gender identity has no basis on whether you are a CRIMINAL or NOT.” While I don’t agree that Manning is a criminal, I agree with the sentiment. Your gender identity does not make you a criminal, nor does it change the degree of criminality you possess.

    Then she says “If Bradley is truly “Chelsea” then “she” is a traitor to ME personally.” But here Kristin says that if Manning is transgender, she is more of a traitor.

    Sorry, Kristin, you can’t have it both ways. While I don’t agree with your opinion that Manning is a criminal, she is not more or less of a traitor depending on her gender identity.

    Which is it? Is she (Manning) a traitor

  19. Cyberspice says

    Oh look, a bunch of TERFs who only feel empowered to bully another minority. Its funny how they completely ignore female to male transgendered individuals in their arguments.

    So Kristin, being transgendered is irrelevant when considering criminal acts, but it is relevant to you? Not very consistent is it!

  20. Ward Chanley says

    Deliberately misgendering a transgender person, as Beck does in the linked FB post, calling Manning him, deliberately placing her chosen name in inappropriate, demeaning quotation marks (“Chelsea,”) and calling the released photos of manning crossdressed “halloweeen photos” are all ways in which transgender folks agency and legitimacy are denied.

    That this is coming from another trans person, who apparently disagrees with Manning’s politics or justifications for leaking documents should not get a pass, merely because Beck is herself transgender. She does not know the contents of Manning’s head, is not a therapist treating Manning, and is in absolutely no position to pass judgement on the legitimacy of Manning’s transgender identity – nor anybody else’s. The only person she’s in a position to judge as a “real” transgender woman is Kristen Beck. That’s it.

    Manning’s actions, like ’em, loathe ’em, or anything in-between do not justify Beck’s tirade, and given that she’s claiming that Manning is doing this for an ulterior motive (better conditions while imprisoned), it’s not unfair to return the favor and speculate that Beck’s own motive, here, might be to sell a few more copies of her book.

  21. says

    Regardless of how one feels about Chelsea Manning’s leaks of confidential information, it’s clear that her notoriety has set Transgender Rights in the US military back to the Stone Age. Unless you are a closeted Transperson, you will surely be separated from service! And you won’t be recruited, either. Recruiters will point to Chelsea Manning, her use of “gender dysphoria” to excuse her actions, and say: “People who are gender-transitioning are too unstable to serve.”

    This whole thing p*sses me off. Gender issues had zilch to do with Chelsea Manning’s leaks! Raising those issues was an ill-advised, and in my opinion, cowardly, defense strategy that was seized upon after Manning got caught. I do not consider her heroic, not at all. I strongly feel that her reckless actions have reinforced bigotry against the Gay man(which she inexplicably once claimed to be) and the Transwoman.

  22. vikson says

    Finally, a transgender person to set the record and I completely agree with Kristin. Manning is a disgrace to other transgender men and women serving the military. His antics would just make it difficult now for other transgender folks to join.

  23. Buckie says

    Secret courts, secret warrants, secret prisons, lying to the American public, violating international law, sending troops out to murder civilians, I don’t see much to be proud of.

    Delusional x-SEAL trannies hell bent on criminal apologetics, in the name of patriotism and nationalism do not impress me any more than the ridiculous posters here that make excuses of US criminal acts, and their outrage that someone dared tell on their sleazy shameful activities.

  24. ellen says

    Maybe a patriotic move, but Manning’s was a careless one. The information he leaked (partially discussed here: http://www.pressdisplay.com/pressdisplay/showlink.aspx?bookmarkid=ERVNO7GJX275&preview=article&linkid=0ee461e7-b3df-48b7-bb5b-886cdef31a30&pdaffid=ZVFwBG5jk4Kvl9OaBJc5%2bg%3d%3d) may very easily aid the very people holding this guy’s homeland in their crosshairs. And I definitely agree with this post in that playing the transgender card as a strategic move in self-defence is adding insult to injury.

  25. Rich says

    Whether or not Manning is a traitor, there are clearly people who believe that s/he is. If that’s true here in this blog, it’s even more likely to be true in the places where Manning will be confined. And some of those people are likely to feel entitled to inflict punishment on the “traitor.” Whether assuming the persona of Chelsea Manning is prompted by deep feelings of identity or protective coloration, the choice is understandable.

  26. Lexi Kamen Turner says

    Thankfully, Kristin Beck is in no way a spokesperson for transwomen, in or out of the military. So she can, I believe the Americans say, go whistle dixie out of her ass for all I care.

  27. Talk Show Host - USAF SF says

    Most of you don’t really get it do you? It’s not about being transgender, gay, lesbian or the frog from Mars. It’s about taking an oath of honor and duty. But then again how could any of you truly understand it. I would assume that most of you, if not all of you, never served in the military. Especially in an elite unit like Kristin did. In the end, it’s not about God and country; it’s about the person to the right of you, left of you, in front of you and behind you. These are your brothers and sisters in Arms. Anything before or after doesn’t really matter.

    The things that Manning saw and came to the conclusions on might have merit. In the end, I could possible agree with him. But he went about protesting it the wrong way. If you don’t like what you see and what you feel. Then do the ultimate protest. The one that countless of Americans have died or have scarified body, mind and soul for, VOTE! How many of you have done that lately? Statistics show not many of you. If you haven’t taken the time to vote then your opinion really means nothing. Without the right/power to vote nobody in the LGBT community would be getting any rights. You don’t have to agree with Kristin, but you do have to respect her feelings on the matter. She has walked the walk.

    Someone wrote that there is no real conclusion if releasing the information got anyone hurt. But we don’t if it did either. I really don’t want some kid with very little life experiences making that decision.

    In the end Kristin will probably be in the top 3 to 5 of the most remembered/influential transgender people in history. You don’t have to like her, but remember, she is helping to give the Transgender community a very positive face and a better understanding in how not everyone is born to conform to what society thinks is normal. There is no real normal. There is just what God has created, all of us. I have come to see that – and that is how I have raised my children – The next generation that will take it to the next level, true civil rights and peace and acceptance for everyone. Not just for the ones that think they are the chosen or have some direct pipeline to God.

    A partial quote – But so on the mark.

    “Now, we don’t make policy here, gentlemen. Elected officials, civilians, do that. We are the instruments of that policy.”~ Commander Metcalf (Viper) from the movie Top Gun

  28. Talk Show Host - USAF SF says

    Most of you don’t really get it do you? It’s not about being transgender, gay, lesbian or the frog from Mars. It’s about taking an oath of honor and duty. But then again how could any of you truly understand it. I would assume that most of you, if not all of you, never served in the military. Especially in an elite unit like Kristin did. In the end, it’s not about God and country; it’s about the person to the right of you, left of you, in front of you and behind you. These are your brothers and sisters in Arms. Anything before or after doesn’t really matter.

    The things that Manning saw and came to the conclusions on might have merit. In the end, I could possible agree with him. But he went about protesting it the wrong way. If you don’t like what you see and what you feel. Then do the ultimate protest. The one that countless of Americans have died or have scarified body, mind and soul for, VOTE! How many of you have done that lately? Statistics show not many of you. If you haven’t taken the time to vote then your opinion really means nothing. Without the right/power to vote nobody in the LGBT community would be getting any rights. You don’t have to agree with Kristin, but you do have to respect her feelings on the matter. She has walked the walk.

    Someone wrote that there is no real conclusion if releasing the information got anyone hurt. But we don’t if it did either. I really don’t want some kid with very little life experiences making that decision.

    In the end Kristin will probably be in the top 3 to 5 of the most remembered/influential transgender people in history. You don’t have to like her, but remember, she is helping to give the Transgender community a very positive face and a better understanding in how not everyone is born to conform to what society thinks is normal. There is no real normal. There is just what God has created, all of us. I have come to see that – and that is how I have raised my children – The next generation that will take it to the next level, true civil rights and peace and acceptance for everyone. Not just for the ones that think they are the chosen or have some direct pipeline to God.

    A partial quote – But so on the mark.

    “Now, we don’t make policy here, gentlemen. Elected officials, civilians, do that. We are the instruments of that policy.”~ Commander Metcalf (Viper) from the movie Top Gun

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