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  1. says

    Thanks Andy, I’ve got the vid now.

    Yeah, it’s a great song -truly great- it is just painful and horrific……but what a reminder of what is going on against gay people whether Laramie, Wyoming or Moscow.

    And most of all it is a bitter wake-up call to us all…….to stop being so damn smug about the progress we’ve made…….

    Violence is encouraged by conventional discrimination, by the Catholic Church, by Evangelicals, by insane propagandists such as Lively, by not enacting ENDA, by allowing religious exemptions so that citizens can discriminate against same sex couples on the basis their private religious bigotries………and we even have one of our own, Elton, with his grandiose notions of reasoning with the Russians. Even refusing to sell a wedding cake to same sex couples encourages a belief that we are “the lesser”…..that we are ” intrinsically defective”…..well done Catholic Catechism.
    All these hands are covered in blood, whether that is spilled in Uganda, Cameroon, Jamaica or Russia.

    Let’s put a moritorium on giving ourselves awards until we have brought the fight to every $***hole that considers us untermenschen.
    This vid makes my blood boil in rage.

  2. Leo says

    Um…Jack. Bringing the fight to everyone?
    As in the Church? The world?

    I agree that people are still far too complacent within the community, if that’s the point you’re aiming for, but some people deserve recognition for bringing the fight to even just a few, depending on the context.

    A little perspective, maybe…?

  3. will says

    There must be a more artful way to do this kind of thing. This video is pompous and didactic. The director has the opposite of a light touch — everything is meant to hit you on the head like a hammer, pounding you into submission. The good character are lily-white. The bad characters are pure evil. This is extremely obvious propaganda.

  4. says

    @ LEO :
    It’s just that the way of treating us in society, as some kind of ‘other’ or less important than straights, or defective, is all part of a mind set.

    DADT took years to revoke !
    DOMA and Prop. 8 more years.
    Every little progress we make has been the subject of massive effort.
    Where it takes such an effort to effect equality in any given area it indicates a greater malaise at the very heart of straight society; that is fortified as I have pointed out by the Church and by a failed political inertia.

    Yes our war has to be with the world from Laramie to Moscow.

    Where do you think it should be ? Confined to our back yard horizons ?

  5. Bob R says

    I am so sick and so tired of the violence. I really cannot take much more. I’m glad I’m not a young man any more. I fear that I would have no remorse for bashing back gay bashers wherever I found them. I suppose that’s hypocritical, but I’m thoroughly fed up with gays being on the receiving end.

    I didn’t get any enjoyment from this video. It’s depressing and sad.

  6. JoseRVG says

    That was very powerful and sad. Reminds you of why we need to keep fighting. Its not just a matter of being recognized or having a tax break, etc. It can be a matter of life and death. Humans are not born fearful. They’re not born with hate. This is taught. So things can change. Thanks for sharing the video, Andy. . .

  7. Michael says

    The world need to respond to Russia and other countries. Allow immigration. Perhaps if all the talent and abilities of people that are so brutalized were missing, these countries would think twice.

  8. Matt says

    The box is symbolic of their secret. There’s a growing fear throughout the video of what is in the box (by the mob) and also a fear of what could be taken or needs to be hidden (by the main characters). The fear is being illuminated by the mob as they drag the man and the box to what, I guess, is a symbolic ritual of sacrifice.
    Also: @Will
    “There must be a more artful way to do this kind of thing. This video is pompous and didactic. The director has the opposite of a light touch — everything is meant to hit you on the head like a hammer, pounding you into submission. The good character are lily-white. The bad characters are pure evil. This is extremely obvious propaganda.”

    “Obviously” you don’t understand the actual pain and suffering the LGBT community in Russia is dealing with right now. There is no need to artfully depict this because the images that were shown in this video are both very corporeal and symbolic, “artful”.

  9. JJBlue says

    i enjoyed this video not in a haha kind of way rather i an aha kind of way…anyway i had heard the song before an contemplated what i thought would be in the video.
    it wasn’t what i expected. i like that its not literal, its rather symbolic. its like poetry converted into a song.
    it shows the harsh reality that sometimes human being hides behind religion as an excuse for violence.

  10. JJBlue says

    i enjoyed this video not in a haha kind of way rather i an aha kind of way…anyway i had heard the song before an contemplated what i thought would be in the video.
    it wasn’t what i expected. i like that its not literal, its rather symbolic. its like poetry converted into a song.
    it shows the harsh reality that sometimes human being hides behind religion as an excuse for violence.

  11. Chuck Mielke says

    Re: “This is extremely obvious propaganda.”

    Yes. In powerful response to a law that forbids pro-gay “propaganda.” Would you have us send, a dvd season of “Love, Sidney”?

  12. SpaceCadet says

    I remember first watching this video when this post first appeared on this site. It’s very striking and so is the song. I’m so glad to see it’s finally getting mainstream recognition. I downloaded the song myself. I don’t listen to it a ton because I typically prefer something more beat driven but I’m drawn to how “cinematic” the song is.

  13. Me says

    If this video is propaganda, then so is the song “Strange Fruit.”

    It’s not propaganda to expose the horrific brutality of the human race.

  14. says

    Both the song and the video are striking. One of the core issues here is the complete hypocrisy on the part of the Anti-equality movement. These people are not truly following the bible, if they were, they’d be stoning their teenage pregnant daughters, and banning divorce.

    In Russia as well as other places , this is entirely about having one group of people that it is safe to hate, to blame for your problems in life.

    Putin and his “gay propaganda laws” which have directly resulted in fatal anti gay violence across Eastern Europe are NO DIFFERENT than Hitler’s Nuremburg Laws and the resulting violence against Jews. It is about having one group of people you can point to as the “Them” who somehow threatens the “Us”, and therefore it is acceptable, even encouraged to treat that group as less than human.

    Yes the video is heavy handed. But if you are following events in Russia, the Baltics and the Middle East and Africa you find the violence depicted in this video is mild by comparison to what LGBT people in those places are facing every day.

  15. james says

    I think you’re missing the point entirely
    It’s supposed to be shocking and hit you in the face at every turn….i think it emphasises the point being made beautifully that while we allow the world to Continually be influenced and run by maniacs who relentlessly pursue the devolution of humanity in its most natural form for their own ends then we will never truly be free….how can you consider yourself a free man living in a free world if you are to be persecuted for expressing that freedom of choice through love….having said that there is no progression without suppression visa ve we can never truly be our at our most natural without the process of finding out what that is, a formula that I’m pretty sure requires both good and evil to equate it’s purist…and ‘taking the fight to the world is merely hate breeding hate….someone has to give before anyone learns and is reborn…so who’s gonna be the bigger person here….them? Or you?

  16. says

    I have been Catholic ALL of my life. I have never once heard the priest or anyone else say anything to incite violence, hatred or anything to harm anyone whether homosexual, or someone who had a abortion or divorce. I’m tired of the ignorance that is set throughout the world that Catholics are monsters. Catholic churches accept everyone, you make a confession of your sins but they don’t throw you out and beat you all they do is ask you to pray for your sins. Catholic motto is basically between you and your maker. We are not here to judge we are here to be a community that prays. So please end the bashing cause it makes you into the intolerant one judging others when you don’t know anything.

  17. Get A Clue says

    @ “Enlighten Your Ignorance”,

    We’re tired of your ignorance, and presumption of being enlightened. We’re tired of Catholic people like you pull your heads out of the proverbial sand only long enough to condescend to gay communities that are under very real threat by your Catholic communities.
    If Catholics don’t want to be perceived as monsters, perhaps they should stop behaving like monsters. And if you don’t think Catholics behave like monsters towards gay communities, maybe you should spend some time actually educating yourself from the gays’ side and perspective, rather than just relying on what your Catholic ‘experts’ on homosexuality have to say about gays.

    “Catholic churches accept everyone” – Are you out of your head?! Seriously! There is so much data, SO MUCH DATA, to prove otherwise, I don’t know where to begin. Catholics don’t accept gays; they’ve made that CRYSTAL CLEAR over and over again. In fact Catholic leadership and its minions can’t stop telling gays that they don’t accept them. If it isn’t clear to you, then you’re just brainwashed by learning only from what the Catholic oppressors have to say about themselves and about gays.

    “you make a confession of your sins” – Being gay is not a sin; don’t you dare come here and suggest it is.

    “but they don’t throw you out and beat you” – LIAR! That’s such a ridiculous lie, you may as well say the sky is purple and not blue.

    “Catholic motto is basically between you and your maker.” – No, the Catholic motto is basically to suppress gays by any means – to associate anything most people consider bad with gays. Your obliviousness, and your presence here, is odious.

    “We are not here to judge” – WHAT?! That’s all Catholics do; judge and suppress gays in every way imaginable.

    “So please end the bashing” YOU FIRST, S***HEAD! YOU F***ING FIRST!! Actually, Catholics have never experienced the kinds of bashing that they inflict on gays every single day every single year, so don’t use the word “bashing” again because you don’t mean it the same way gays do and you don’t deserve to use that word. Objective criticism does not constitute ‘bashing’ in the same way as crusading against gays and violence against gays does…

    Gays do not need to be tolerant of Catholic prejudice, and you thinking that gays are intolerant because they don’t just lay down and take the abuse you Catholics dish out, makes you and people like you the ones who “don’t know anything”.

    Get a clue, get a life, and get lost.

  18. JackFknTwist says

    @ GET A CLUE :

    I totally agree with your comment.
    The Catholics have invented a pretend distinction between “homosexual acts” and ” being homosexual”.
    The Catholics use that concocted distinction as the basis for their “Love the sinner; hate the sin” baloney.

    Everything about the Catholic Church is hypocritical.