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Drag Impresario Charles Busch Dolls Up For 'The Tribute Artist': INTERVIEW

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BY NAVEEN KUMAR

The preeminent queen of drag theatre, Charles Busch returns to the New York stage this week with his new comedy The Tribute Artist, in which he plays a female impersonator taking on the role of a lifetime—that of a dear, deceased friend. Opening Off Broadway on Sunday, February 9th at Primary Stages, it’s the latest in the playwright’s lineup of comedic plays in which he also performs a role in drag.

Charles Busch NEWEST headshot 1.20.14For thirty years Busch has been known for his distinct brand of high camp style and the easy charisma with which he embodies female characters, many inspired by legendary Hollywood stars. In his latest, Busch plays Jimmy, a down on his luck Vegas ‘celebrity tribute artist,’ whose glamorous old friend dies in her sleep leaving no will behind. Jimmy hatches a plan to impersonate his late friend in order to hang on to her West Village townhouse.

I spoke to Charles about his work on the new show, the future of drag, and why not every gay man needs to love Judy Garland.

Naveen Kumar: Can you tell me a bit about where you got the idea for this play?

Charles Busch: Over the years I’ve been writing two kinds of plays: one the sort of drag, camp, movie parody play and the other a more traditional New York comedy like The Tale of the Allergist’s Wife. I thought it’d be interesting to try to find a middle ground between the two, so I was in search of a story that would be camp and sort of real at the same time.

Of course, living in New York City, I’m surrounded by friends who are in desperate straits trying to find a place to live in Manhattan. It’s just this terrible catch-22 with all sorts of rules and regulations. So, the real estate dilemma put it all together.

Cynthia Harris, Charles Busch339Also, I had never done a story where I was posing as a woman. I’ve made a career out of playing female characters, but I’ve never actually done a show where I was a man posing as a woman. I thought that would be a fun twist, and wanted to see what I could bring to it that was fresh.

It’s a centuries old theatrical convention. All the popular movies—Tootsie, Some Like It Hot, Mrs. Doubtfire—are really about a resolutely heterosexual man forced into playing a female part, which he’s never done before. The comedy comes from his struggle to be feminine and the big difference between men and women. The sort of sexy part of the story is when another straight man is attracted to the straight guy in drag, and there’s a certain amount of homosexual panic.

I’ve been discovering that the interesting part of this play for me, particularly as an actor, is that there’s so little difference between my character and the impersonation he’s doing. His sexuality is so androgynous that he’s able to slip into the female role very effortlessly, and we take it from there.

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NK: How do you find writing an original character for yourself? Is writing comedy that you’re going to perform easier or somehow more tricky?

CB: It’s easier because I know my comedy rhythms and what I can and can’t do. Though it still ends up being a challenge. This part, even though I wrote it for myself, was a little bit theoretical. I’ve really never played a male character before on stage, except once in 1994 (in You Should Be So Lucky).

Julie Halston, Cynthia Harris, Charles Busch033When we started rehearsing this play, I didn’t really know what my male voice was, I’m just not used to it. I was trying to separate the characters, but what I’ve been discovering more and more is that Jimmy, the female impersonator, isn’t that different from the voice that he’s impersonating. He’s completely androgynous, which is fun because you don’t quite know when he’s one or the other.

NK: Much of your work (including The Tribute Artist) pays homage to classic movie stars from the 1930’s onward—Bette Davis, Rosalind Russell, Katharine Hepburn—why do you think these women and their performances resonate so much with gay men? How did they first resonate with you? 

CB: Well, these women were first of all very talented, and bigger than life. There are always exceptions to the rule, but generally speaking the women in the pantheon of gay favorites tend to be strong, embattled women who are struggling. Even someone like Judy Garland, who you think of as very vulnerable, was always making another comeback. Two thirds of the songs Judy Garland sang were about carrying on despite all odds.

Bette Davis too in a way, and Joan Crawford, Rosalind Russell, Susan Hayward—I think a lot of gay men, particularly who’ve maybe felt a bit oppressed, would identify with a female character who’s indomitable. Someone could always say, ‘Well what about Marilyn Monroe?’ But there are exceptions to every rule, I didn’t write the book!

I first became exposed to all these women when I was a very young child watching old movies on TV. Right away, I found them fascinating, fun to watch and moving. My mother died when I was 7 and I was raised by my aunt, an elegant, strong lady who had to fight to protect us. I could easily identify her with the women I saw onscreen.

Julie Halston, Charles Busch 407Also, older generations didn’t have any gay role models in the media. You have to identify with somebody, so you take what you can get. If you’re a slightly androgynous gay personality, you’re not going to identify with John Wayne or Humphrey Bogart, but Bette Davis was somebody you could more likely identify with. 

People keep telling me that young gay men don’t know who the hell any of these ladies are and couldn't care less. And I guess they have their own favorites. Lady Gaga is already passé, isn’t she? But whoever it is, there’s some flamboyant lady who young gay kids are into I’m sure. 

NK: You have very specific ideas about drag and female impersonation that colors both your writing and your onstage performances. Can you tell me a bit about your personal approach to drag?

CB: For each person who does drag professionally, it comes out of a personal place. Drag performers who go for a sort of grotesque look with wild makeup and huge hair—they’re coming from a certain place of satire, but it’s also very personal.

It’s also based on your physicality. If you’re a large person with big features, it’s better if you exaggerate them more. My trip tends to be very real. I’m only 5’7 and slim and have kind of delicate features, so it’s rather easy for me to look like a realistic lady.

My whole career as a drag artist has been an attempt to play these female characters that have been based on or influenced by movie icons—like Rosalind Russell, Susan Hayward, or Bette Davis—but at the same time, play them with a certain reality and emotional truth.

Company of THE TRIBUTE ARTIST 300More and more over the years, that’s really been the path I’ve been on. When I first started playing female characters in the late 70s, everything was so exaggerated—a lot of mugging and hamming it up. Over the past 35 years, there’s been a gradual refining and editing process, so I actually don’t do that much. I’m able to channel the feminine me, because I’m a rather androgynous personality.

NK: Do you have any specific hopes for the future of drag performance, how it might reach wider audiences and the impact that might have?

CB: I think it’s a little bit of a niche market, but I must say RuPaul’s Drag Race certainly has given more people a certain sense of drag. By nature of being a competition show, it has to limit its scope a bit to have parameters for judging contestants. Even within that, the different people who’ve come out of that show evidently make a lot of money touring around afterward—I think it’s great.

Drag is always going to be the sort of low man on the totem pole as far as gay life goes, because most gay people so want to assimilate and drag is a little out there. Everything in the world to me as far as sexuality just seems to be loosening up and becoming more assimilated—gay marriage and gay imagery are becoming so prevalent. I think it’s all very positive.

The Tribute Artist is running at Primary Stages through March 16th. 

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  1. Thanks for this great interview. Charles Busch is an amazing talent.

    Posted by: Jay | Feb 4, 2014 11:05:45 AM


  2. In the past he has used drag as a crutch and a gimmick instead of concentrating on his real talents, and the pattern just keeps repeating itself.

    Posted by: freak | Feb 4, 2014 11:45:09 AM


  3. I just saw the play on Friday Night. It was HILARIOUS. I had such a fun time.

    Posted by: Spike | Feb 4, 2014 11:48:40 AM


  4. Drag IS part of his REAL talents, Freak!

    Posted by: Bill | Feb 4, 2014 1:08:14 PM


  5. Pathetic. And more than a little gross.

    Posted by: Dan | Feb 4, 2014 2:35:41 PM


  6. "I first became exposed to all these women when I was a very young child watching old movies on TV. . . . My mother died when I was 7 and I was raised by my aunt, an elegant, strong lady who had to fight to protect us. I could easily identify her with the women I saw onscreen."

    This man needs therapy. He seems to have been raised as a female and now thinks that he is one. Worse, as is clear from the interview, he tries to impose his mental baggage on gay and bi boys.

    Someone needs to tell him that his failure of manhood is his failure and his alone. Mr. Busch, misery may love company, but don't drag gay and bi boys down to your level.

    Posted by: Joshua | Feb 4, 2014 3:29:58 PM


  7. I tend to agree with some of the comments above. He might be a funny entertainer, but he is definitely *NOT* a good role model for gay boys. Gay boys already have their masculinity questioned and undermined from bullies. They don't need this idiot adding to the problem.

    Posted by: Mason | Feb 4, 2014 5:18:16 PM


  8. nothing wrong with drag as fun entertainment. but it becomes problematic when busch tries to link it with being gay. that is wrong. most crossdressers are hetero and the vast majority of gay men do not cross dress. busch is promoting stereotypes.

    Posted by: nathan44 | Feb 4, 2014 5:31:57 PM


  9. Excellent interview.

    Posted by: jarago | Feb 4, 2014 5:58:23 PM


  10. Busch is more of a man for living his life as he sees fit than any of the cowardly anonymous commenters on this site questioning the masculinity of someone they don't know. This is my first comment on here in months. I come back every now and again to see if Andy has decided to monitor the despicable comments forum here. See you in a few months.

    Posted by: ChristopherM | Feb 4, 2014 7:16:48 PM


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