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Towleroad Interview: Lessons On Life, Love and Reality TV From RuPaul

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BY BOBBY HANKINSON

Fans of RuPaul's Drag Race have a lot to celebrate today. Not only does the beloved reality competition return with its sixth season tonight at 9 p.m. Eastern on Logo, but the show's host also drops his new albumBorn Naked (a reference to RuPaul's quote, "You're born naked, and the rest is drag"). To call the show a phenomenon would be an understatement. It's already been renewed for a seventh season, and its Facebook page recently reached more than one million likes.

BornnakedIn addition to becoming the cornerstone of the Logo network (including spin-offs Drag U and Untucked), it's launched its competing queens (and the art of drag) to new levels of prominence. RuPaul thinks the show's success can be at least partially attributed to the changing times.

"I think it's part of the reason the show Downton Abbey is so successful," he said. "In certain ways, we're mirroring the transition in that show from the 19th century to 20th century, but here we are still finding our way from the 20th century to the 21st century."

But it also could be partially attributed to him. As host, RuPaul can drop hilarious bon mots, encyclopedic pop culture references and drag-mama koans with equal aplomb. In or out of drag, he's fiercer than Tyra, more charming than Tim Gunn and could give Oprah a run for her money as a guide to living better. For some, the show is more than the usual throwaway reality garbage. It's a ru-ligious experience.

We had the chance to hear more of the gospel according to Ru last week when we chatted about the upcoming season. Find out how he thinks the show has changed (and how he's changed) since Drag Race debuted, AFTER THE JUMP ...

Towleroad: What's surprised you most about the success of the show?

RuPaul: What's surprised me the most is that it's not bigger. I'm surprised it's not The Voice numbers and what American Idol used to be. I'm surprised it's not more people, but you know what? I ain't complaining.

TR: How do you think the show has evolved since the beginning?

RP: The most obvious change has been people who speak the language of reality television. Our first group of kids didn't know what to expect. This group of kids came into their own while watching the show. They come to expect some of the curveballs we're going to throw at them, but not always. They can never anticipate who they see when they look at themselves later. That's the big thing that they can never anticipate. Nobody has that kind of knowledge of themselves. And no matter how many times people say, 'Oh I was edited that way,' it's like, well, actually that came of out of your mouth, and you can't really use that excuse. I think for the contestants that's the biggest pill to swallow. 'Oh, is that what I sound like or behave like?'

RupaulTR: What's the impact been on you acting as a judge and matriarch on the show?

RP: Well, my favorite thing about doing this is creating a forum for these kids to show themselves to the world and to become international stars. We're in over 100 countries around the world. How it's changed me, though, is … is it even possible for me to have more compassion? I guess so. It's actually softened me. It's softened me to allow people to just be themselves. It's opened my heart. I was actually driving to the office today thinking the solution to every situation is really love. If I close my heart, that trick never works. If I get angry at people and say, 'Damn you,' that trick just never works. It's more important to have compassion, especially at this point in life. I've been around the planet for a few years, it's taken me this long to really understand the power of that.

TR: I feel like as a viewer of the show for so long, the tone has shifted a little bit, too. In early seasons, it was more of a satire of Top Model and Project Runway, but the heart of the show has gotten much bigger as the seasons have gone on.

RP: I think so, I think so. Drag by design is a parody and a spoof and a piss-take and a wink at everything in culture. That's our job, actually, to take the piss out of everything that our culture takes so seriously. I tweeted this morning that my 10th grade teacher gave me the best advice that's ever been given, which is 'Don't take life too seriously.' And that is really the role of the shaman, the drag queen, the court jester, the witch doctor, to say, 'Oh, and by the way, this is all an illusion. None of this is real.' It's a gift that you really have to enjoy and not let it get the best of you.

CarreraTR: Carmen Carrera has made headlines as a trans model. You've also had past queens Sonique and Monica Beverly Hillz on the show. I think it's challenged people's understanding of both trans and drag. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the relationship between the trans and drag community.

RP: It's always been so confusing for most people, but the bottom line is that there's really only one of us here on this planet. The ego wants to separate everybody. It wants to say, 'You're over there, and I'm over here.' But the truth is we're just really one thing. We are all just one thing. In terms of our show, the only criteria is contestants must have charisma, uniqueness, nerve and talent.

TR: I'm curious about the main challenges for the show. What's the brainstorming process like? Where do those come from?

RP: The producers here are a bunch of twisted, gay men who are pop culture junkies, who have seen everything that's ever happened in the history of the world, and we remember it, and we somehow incorporate it into the challenges to entertain ourselves. Once you uncover and decode life's twisted hoax, the only sanctuary is in the absurd and the irreverent. The only way to deal with it is to live in that place where everything is so friggin' hilarious. That's how we come up with the challenges, and you know what I'm talking about.

TR: Totally. What's been your favorite challenge on the show?

RP: I always love the acting challenges. I always love seeing these queens create something. Because to do what they do and be a showgirl, you really have to be a producer, a conceptualist, you have to be a performer, you have to be a marketing executive. To have a successful career, you really have to do all those things. Watching them create something out of seemingly nothing, just an idea, is so brilliant. I love creativity. I'm a Scorpio, and creativity is my mana. I love it. When Mathu [Andersen] is doing my hair and makeup, I'm looking in the mirror watching him do it. I can see the moment he creates magic, and it's like, oh my god, just a flip of the hand. These kids who are on our show have that in spades, and that's always so interesting. Of course, our mini challenges are always so twisted. I loved 'Whatcha packin'?' You remember that challenge? 'Whatcha packin'?'

 

TR: Anything else about this coming season folks should be excited about?

RP: My new album is just a blast. It's almost a completely duet album, but it has so much great stuff on there. I couldn't be more proud of it. Of course, as usual, a lot of the songs in season six are on my album.

TR: And where might that album be available?

RP: It's available on iTunes … And Amazon.

Come back for our weekly recap of 'Drag Race' after tonight's premiere!

(Photo by Mathu Andersen)

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  1. I love RuPaul.

    There is a video on Youtube of RuPaul when he first came to New York. He was wonderful and sweet back then, and he still is now. I am happy with her success.

    She was very good friends with Lady Bunny who has her own blog. Y'all shoud visit it sometimes.

    And I don't know what f.ckin' pronouns to use: masculine or feminine? Oh, who cares?

    Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Feb 24, 2014 11:32:53 AM


  2. This guy is so ridiculous and has been for so long that I can't even snort anymore. Like cheezy comedian Andrew Dice Clay, he is pure bottom-feeder entertainment. I understand there are people who think he's classy, I mean bwahahahaha...right, and Putin is a liberal.

    Posted by: UFFDA | Feb 24, 2014 12:35:59 PM


  3. This guy is so ridiculous and has been for so long that I can't even snort anymore. Like cheezy comedian Andrew Dice Clay, he is pure bottom-feeder entertainment. I understand there are people who think he's classy, I mean bwahahahaha...right, and Putin is a liberal.

    Posted by: UFFDA | Feb 24, 2014 12:36:00 PM


  4. I am so excited about the new season I can hardly contain myself.

    Posted by: WayneMPLS | Feb 24, 2014 12:43:55 PM


  5. Ru has had a much longer career than I think anyone ever expected, has done some great, funny, clever things, and is a sweet person. And I enjoy a lot of drag, especially the more transgressive approaches that aren't fixated on sequins and show tunes. That said, I don't enjoy this show.

    Also, what's going on with Ru's enhanced face on the album cover? Clearly it's not meant to be a photo (not even a PhotoShopped photo; the "eyebrows" make that pretty clear). I'm not criticizing it, I'm more just curious about how it was created.

    Posted by: Paul R | Feb 24, 2014 12:44:43 PM


  6. I hope this season goes back to season four's quality rather than the forced antics of season five.

    Also, UFFDA, your bitter is showing. Tuck it back better.

    Posted by: Mikey | Feb 24, 2014 1:04:33 PM


  7. perpetuating a stereotype is never a good thing.

    Posted by: Bellah | Feb 24, 2014 1:56:41 PM


  8. Total class act while keeping life fun and relevant. I adore Ru!

    Posted by: wayne | Feb 24, 2014 3:53:05 PM


  9. RuPaul is smart, it's a good show. He wants it to be bigger and why not?

    Posted by: LJC | Feb 24, 2014 6:58:52 PM


  10. Great interview. Very excited about the new season. Here's a great interview with contestant Laganja Estranja I was thrilled to get.

    Posted by: Steven Michael | Feb 24, 2014 7:02:35 PM


  11. Is he kidding? Drag Race is very entertaining but just drag without serious talent (singing, acting) is never going to get the same respect as Idol or something, I love the show but lets face it its somewhat superficial. There are rarely any very talented drag stars on it.

    Posted by: Patrick | Feb 24, 2014 7:18:26 PM


  12. The best show ever.

    Posted by: Brion | Feb 24, 2014 7:28:43 PM


  13. Ru Paul will never have a big show. Women don't like being sent up by men who dress up as women. There's goes the female demographic in one fell swoop.

    Ru, himself, is a fetishized version of womanhood. The excessive make-up, exaggerated dresses and high heels are all symptomatic of a fetish-like approach to women.

    Also, there is virtually nothing homosexual-male about the show. If you're a man who likes to watch men dress up as women, you're either straight or have a fetish for lesbians.

    Posted by: roger | Feb 24, 2014 8:41:44 PM


  14. Sometimes I feel like I have to write a comment to balance out the crazies. This is that comment.

    Oh, also, I love this show and Ru :)

    Posted by: gabriel | Feb 25, 2014 1:19:34 AM


  15. My take: 99% of drag is a big ol' bore. The 1% is devoted to some amazingly talented performers who would be great with or without the wig.

    Rupaul is wonderful that way. But you'd have to pay me a lot of money to sit through crap TV like that.

    Posted by: Matte | Feb 25, 2014 4:44:37 AM


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