1. Carmelo says

    Whose SSN did he steal to get that job? Isn’t that normally called identity theft and fraud?

  2. Tom says

    I guess they think that if they keep using the term “undocumented” over and over again, that Americans will come to think of illegal immigration as a problem of misplaced paperwork. Utter stupidity.

  3. Gman says

    I have to agree…you’re not an undocumented immigrant, you are an illegal alien. If I sneak into Germany and live there I am not an immigrant, I am a criminal.

  4. Chlorogoth says

    Wow, comments are filled by a bunch of racists and/or very ignorant people who don’t seem to understand immigration or how messed up it is. Cause, you know, it is SO criminal to try and live in the country you were raised in. Who exactly is he actually hurting by being here?

    Unless you are native american, why don’t the lot of you go back to the countries you came from? Maybe then you will have some valid insight into immigration policies and their impact and the rest of us can have a country with a booming economy that actually treats people, especially it’s workers, with some semblance of decency.

  5. Chlorogoth says

    I would also like to point out that before 2003 a whole lot of you would be criminals for having sex. So instead of thinking of yourselves has openly gay, think of yourselves as former non-convicted criminals.

  6. Gman says

    Nobody said anything racist or that he was hurting anyone, but call it what it is…illegal.

  7. Sean Maloney says

    Oh, Chlorogoth, resorting to the same predictable tired old clichés to support an argument that would never hold up against the Constitution. Live it. Dream it. #snigger

    Oh, and Little Kiwi, is it? This isn’t Vietnam. No one’s trying to dodge a draft. Stick to Montreal.

  8. Randy says

    His family sent him to the US at the age of 12. How can you hold him responsible for that?

    It’s common sense that he should be considered at least a permanent resident. It’s absurd to deport him.

    But I think those adults who come to the US and violate the immigration law, they should be considered felons.

  9. says

    undocumented workers aren’t the reason americans are out of work.

    you have the wealthy business owners closing shop in the USA so they can open factories and plants in other countries and pay those workers there *peanuts* – Oh, then not pay taxes on the money saved ūüėÄ

    gee,,,,which party works hardest to ensure the wealthiest can screw over working class americans?

  10. Ville says

    If America can’t process a special visa for this Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, I don’t know what would. He has contributed to this country more than any of you would have done in a lifetime.

  11. says

    If you weren’t born here then you need to return to your native country and apply for citizenship in the U.S. The fact that your mother brought you here when you were three days old and left you with your undocumented grandmother who raised you in the U.S. does not make you a legal American. I think we’re all pretty sorry that your parents would do such a cruel thing to you believing you could somehow hide within the population and eventually meld in as a legal citizen. Most people who post here are very liberal but when it comes to illegal entry into the U.S. that’s crossing the line. We are doing a great injustice if we were to allow you citizenship over the thousands still standing and waiting in line legally. I don’t care how American you appear today. If you don’t have the right to be here legally you need to go home to your native country.

  12. says

    Undocumented Pulitzer Prize winning journalists have always been a huge threat to our real-American way of life. As a 12-year-old, he should have known better! It’s not like he was a kid or anything.

  13. oncemorewithfeeling says

    You can always count on Trollroad to have the craziest comments for every occastion.

  14. Robert says

    The lack of compassion of some of these commenters is disgusting. He was brought here as a child. Calling him a “criminal” because he was brought here by an adult when he was 12 is absurd.

    He grew up here. He is an American. He’s worked hard and contributed to society and, frankly, accomplished more before the age of 30 than you xenophobic commenters– have you won a Pulitzer Prize? I certainly haven’t. If you’d bothered to learn this man’s story you’d know he’s been a hard-working taxpayer. He’s not receiving anything for free.

    What would possibly be the benefit of sending him back to a country that he didn’t grow up in, where he would have to wait for years to try to get back to the country he did grow up in and has contributed to? Why is his presence here so threatening to you?

    I have nothing but compassion for him. I don’t know why it’s so hard for you to feel the same compassion.

    In the broader frame of undocumented people, if we sent them all back it would harm our economy. They’re already here an integrated into our economy. They find ways to work, they spend the money they earn, most are not running around committing crimes but working hard to provide for their families, both here and back in their birth country.

    We are a very wealthy country. The undocumented aren’t stealing jobs from US citizens– many do jobs citizens wouldn’t consider doing. The solution is to let these hard working people stay here legally, especially the Dreamers like Mr. Vargas, who as far as I’m concerned is as American as I am.

  15. says

    The point @ROBERT is that Jose Vargas is probably just as American as you are but he was not born here. He is not a legal citizen of this country. He can take his fine American education home to his native country along with his Pulitizer Prize, apply for American citizenship and get in line with all those thousands and thousands of immigrants waiting for the right to enter this country legally. The idea that he is already here should give him a leg up is preposterous. Tell that to the little old lady from Italy who has been waiting for 20 years for the legal right to enter this country to live with her American-Italian family. We simply can’t open the flood gates and say “sure, come on in, we’ve got plenty of room,” because we don’t. Jose Vargas received his Prize because of his fine American education but that Prize does not come with a free pass to citizenship. That’s the reality of illegal entry into this country just as it is in the majority of other countries around the world.

  16. RayJacksonMs says

    And I would like to point out that in 2003 GLBTs didn’t become criminals and force their way into Canada, because we weren’t getting our way in America. We stayed here and change OUR country for the better. Yes it is his parent fault. They were the original criminals but guess what, criminals don’t raise honest children. They raise little criminals. Vargas and everyone like him can stop blaming America for wanting to make sure the people that move here will contribute and not just take. He needs to put the blame on his parents where it belongs, then go home and deal with the repercussions of his criminal parents’ actions in a legal manner. Until he does he’s just another illegal border hopper.

  17. Kev C says

    The people who made this documentary and publicized it are using a gay for sympathy to advance their own homophobic agenda. The fact is, immigrants, legal or not, are more likely to be homophobic, come from homophobic cultures, dislike gays, and continue their homophobic traditions in the US, which threatens gays in the USA. Reject this flimsy Democrat attempt at propaganda.

  18. JohnAGJ says

    Chlorogoth: That’s an absurd and azinine argument. Why bother having any immigration laws or border controls whatsoever? Since the bulk of the legal population here (regardless of race or color) isn’t Native American, then aren’t we all “racists” for having anything in place about immigration in your view? Ridiculous. Try and obfuscate however you wish but Vargas is still an illegal immigrant, although one whose case I’m sympathetic with. Btw, I note how you only focus on illegals like Vargas in making your charge yet ignore that the trailer includes those like him of all races (including explicitly one German). We know that illegals come not only from Latin America, although the majority do, or even the Philippines as in the case of Vargas. In fact, there are quite a number from lily-white Euro countries like Russia, Ireland and others. Then there are of course the Canadians.

    Randy: As I said, those illegal immigrants like in Vargas’ case I’m probably the most sympathetic with. I wouldn’t have much of a problem of a “path to citizenship” for those who were brought here as kids and this is essentially the only country they know. Well, except for the very few violent criminals whom I’m perfectly willing to use a technicality in deporting because we have enough native-born ones. I’m actually a realist on all the other cases as well and favor a compromise, but not like this. Push this meme of “racist” and politicization and frankly their advocates can pizz off instead. Except for those like Vargas. Those ones I’m okay with regardless since they are essentially American already even if illegal in status.

    Mike Ryan: I understand where you are coming from, but let’s be real about this. It would only take a few videos on the news of women and children being forcibly deported for any such efforts to collapse. I’m okay with compromising on the matter for this reason and others but refuse to be bullied into it. Those folks can pizz off IMO.

  19. says

    @KevC: I guess you missed the part about the documentary being written, produced, and directed by Vargas himself.

    Immigration threads on TR bring out almost as much irrational hysteria as ones involving tattoos or gender identity.

  20. Robert says

    @MikeRyan: sending Mr. Vargas to the Philippines will not free up room on the list for your little old Italian lady (and please take note your demanding that a person of color leave so a white European can head on over). Wouldn’t it be more sensible, more cost- effective and more humane just to find a way for him to stay here legally, even if it’s without citizenship? The fact is, we do have plenty of room. The approximately 12 million undocumented are already here and, as I said above, the overwhelming majority of them are contributing to our economy, not taking from it. Maybe you live somewhere where you’ve never met an undocumented person. I’ve known a lot of them.

    @RayJackaonMS: what is this obsession about using the word “criminal” and inferring that Mr. Vargas and others like him “just take?” I will repeat: if you’d bothered to read this man’s remarkable and landmark NY Times article, you’d know that he has worked and supported himself all his adult life. He’s paid taxes. Every undocumented person I’ve known (and many I suspect were undocumented) ALL work and support themselves.

    It is remarkable that gay people, whose sexual behavior was illegal in many states not that long ago, can’t just find some compassion for undocumented people instead of shouting out Fox News nonsense like “criminals!” and “send them all back!”

    It is impossible to deport 12 million people. It will NEVER happen. And it would damage our economy. I prefer to live in the real world and address things in a real-world, practical way. The most logical solution is to find a way for them to come out of the shadows and find a sensible way to let them live here legally and continue to contribute to society.

    As for MikeRyan’s little old Italian lady, the entire immigration system needs a compete overhaul. I don’t know if old Italian women are really waiting 20 years to come here, but there is a way to change the system to make it easier for people to move here. The problem is, many politicians in Washington and especially Republicans have no interest in doing so. Republicans like it the way it is now so their xenophobic base can have yet another group to hate– all those illegals stealing jobs from all those Republicans, and all those people Jan Brewer says are coming into Arizona and murdering people.

  21. Kev C says

    Ernie, tons of gays are Democrat stooges who would sell out gay interests for the sake of some political power. Look at JMG (and defunct Pam’s “blenders”). They protest that they aren’t cash machines for the Democrats – become tools for the Dems. Total sell outs.

  22. Sergio says

    Ugh, just another reminder of how ridiculously racist Towleroad is – and how Andy supports that. (Let’s see how long it takes before another poster attacks me with an anti-Hispanic comment.)

  23. jarago says

    “Undocument” might be the politically correct term but they are illegal immigrants- and to all those people who say no we should not have borders then leave your homes door wide open when you go to work…

  24. Kev C says

    He’s got a pulitzer prize and mainstream coverage. That’s plenty of motive to sell out gays for some attention, some acceptance and praise from his fellow mexicans – some of whom hate gays regardless of his campaigning for them. He’s not “pro-gay”, he’s pro-mexican, pro-immmigrant and ultimately anti-gay.

  25. jamal49 says

    Somebody needs to remind all these white homo assholes that THEY are the “illegal” immigrants. It’s not the other way around. And I don’t begrudge this man his advocacy because he was brought here as a CHILD by his mother. Children can’t make decisions regarding their “legality”. He grew up here and knows no other country or life. He is as American as I am. What he is advocating is to at least consider that children who were brought here have the chance to legitimize their lives in the U.S. since it is the only country they know. Again, some of the Euro-assholes here need to check out history. Y’all the illegals here so sit the f*ck down and shut the f*ck up.

  26. Unicorn says

    Thank you for absolutely getting it.

    @Mike Ryan
    You don’t think there’s something inherently wrong with people having to wait 20 years in line? Like Robert said, different countries have different wait times so a Filipino immigrant would not be taking a spot from an Italian. On that note, the Philippines has one of THE longest wait times for a green card in the US. They are backlogged all the way to 1993 at the moment. THAT’S TWENTY ONE YEARS AGO. People are literally dying of old age waiting for their petitions to get approved. My grandpa never lived long enough to see his approved and my mom is not getting any younger. It’s these kinds of cartoonishly long lines that encourage people to seek alternative (i.e. “illegal”) ways to enter and live in the country. This is why immigration reform needs to happen *NOW*

  27. Kev C says

    Mexico is a pretty homophobic place with homophobic people and culture. Some gays want to fight against homophobia, and some want to appease the Democrats and their need for voters of any kind. Let’s face it, given the choice between gay votes and mexican votes, Democrats would toss gays under the bus in a jiffy.

  28. Kev C says

    I do not like the Democrats and as long as I keep saying I hate the Democrats my parents beat me less frequently than usual.

  29. Patrick says

    I’m gay and I’m not falling for his nonsense-the “Viva La Razafication” of America must be stopped.

  30. Kev C says

    Hey Fake Kev C, the only ones doing the beatings are Democrats.

    How do you explain Democrat heavy states having more gay bashings than Republican states in the USA (according to the FBI UCR hate crime statistics with blue states California, New York, and Michigan having the most)? A significant amount are committed by immigrants, and more immigrants will produce more hate crimes.

  31. Bobubye says

    It is a stretch, to say the least, to ask the Gay & Lesbian Community to support granting citizenship to illegal/undocumented aliens, as a significant number of them come from countries with well-known homophobic cultures. Why would we welcome those who would then vote to deny us are well – earned and hard fought for rights? Why is this hard to understand? What other group of citizens in the USA would welcome those who might not support their rights?

  32. Unicorn says

    @all the people who say immigrants are homophobic

    Do you guys have any concept of intersectionality at all? Everytime you paint an entire culture of people as homophobic, you are silencing and ignoring the voices of gay immigrants like Jose Vargas here. You honestly don’t think an accomplished journalist like himself wouldn’t be a boon to the LGBT movement once his U.S. citizenship is taken care of?

    Are you going to deny citizenship to a gay Russian or Ugandan immigrant trying to escape abuse in their country just because “their culture is homophobic”?

    Yes, homophobia in non-U.S. cultures is a problem but you don’t win their hearts and minds over by EXCLUDING them.

  33. Bobubye says

    @UNICORN, While it may be true that there are non-homophobic illegal/undocumented seeking citizenship, please note the nationalities of those charged with recent attacks on gay citizens in NYC, some posted on this site. Exceptions, such as Jose Vargas, do not make the rule; also, we have enough home-grown bigots to deal with as it is.

  34. Kev C says

    Unicorn, this isn’t about granting asylum to persecuted gays and others in need, which I support, but rewarding amnesty to people who commmited a crime already.

    Immigrants do commmit disproportional violence towards gays, but they could also concievably set back gay rights by voting in numbers in their districts.

  35. Merv says

    While having open borders is a great ideal, it’s not possible as long as we have the inequalities in wealth that we have between countries. We would be overrun with hundreds of millions of poor, uneducated immigrants, and not have the housing and other infrastructure to handle it. So, in the meantime we need to have rules that restrict immigration. If we do have the rules, and we agree they are necessary, then obviously they should be enforced. If there really is a good argument against this, I haven’t heard it.

    Now, obviously you can argue with some of the rules. I think it’s ridiculous to even consider deporting someone who immigrated illegally as a child. Almost everyone agrees that it’s not his fault. What about people who immigrated illegally as an adult and became successful? He deserves punishment, but we shouldn’t cut off our nose to spite our face. Levy a substantial fine and let him stay. Everyone else should be encouraged to leave. Strict employer-directed enforcement plus relocation incentives will take care of most. The same should be done for those on public assistance.

    For those who are allowed to immigrate legally, we should give priority to those who are highly educated and already have some financial means. Those who are not should be incentivized to settle in underpopulated areas in the middle of the country. We already have too many people on the coasts, which is contributing to inflated cost of living.

  36. JJJ says

    If you’re a child taken here by your parents or grandparents – you have no say in the matter. You very likely don’t know anything about immigration policies. I don’t think any sane person would argue a child who was moved here by adults is at any way at fault or to blame.

    But what gave Jose’s grandparents – or anyone’s grandparents or parents – the right to simply choose to move children to the United States, regardless of immigration laws?

  37. says

    To all of you whining “let them in…” you have one big problem: 89% of voting America are against you. Every politician knows that if they were to grant your “dream” wish they’d be thrown out of office fast and furiously. You can’t bully your way into granting citizenship to nearly 12 million illegal aliens. I’m Irish, second generation American. My parents were immigrants who stood in line and waited for their citizenship. I was born here. The same goes for 90% of the population. You are slamming your heads against a brick wall if you think that 90% is going to have enough sympathy to say, “Ahh shucks, it’s ok hon, let ’em in” because it just isn’t going to happen.

  38. Mark says

    It’s pretty funny to read these comments. One genius compared immigration laws to sodomy laws. I guess his point is that because the latter were unjust and were ultimately held unconstitutional, then every other law must be unjust and unconstitutional too. Logic!

    Another Einstein claims that this illegal immigrant is “just as American” as anyone else. Sure! Except for the “being a citizen” part.

    Then there’s the broken shell of a man called “Ernie” who maintains a depressing photo blog with no pictures of himself or his non-existent friends, and who on previous occasions has told us that he identifies with a dead, alcoholic female overdose victim.

    Ernie’s comment is:

    “Undocumented Pulitzer Prize winning journalists have always been a huge threat to our real-American way of life. As a 12-year-old, he should have known better! It’s not like he was a kid or anything.”

    I feel so bad or Ernie. He has all the effeminacy of Quentin Crisp, but none of the wit or intelligence. Ern, the relevant standard is not whether an immigrant is a “huge threat” to our way of life. The relevant standard is compliance with the law. He hasn’t complied, and he needs to be arrested and deported. He may have been a kid when he entered the country illegally, but it is also a violation of federal law to remain the country illegally. This crime he committed as an adult and he is still committing it, knowingly and flagrantly.

  39. says

    Nice of you to spend so much time concerned about my welfare @Mark (gee, my husband might get jealous) but save your imagination and stick to actual arguments.

  40. SpaceCadet says

    “Criminals raise little criminals”? That has to be one of the stupidest comments I’ve heard. As if children have no free will and the ability to assert their independence from their parents.

  41. Robert says

    @MikeRyan: and you are slamming your head against a wall if you think a sizable percentage of the millions of undocumented people here can be deported. It will NOT happen. And it would cost a fortune. They’re here and they’re not going away. Also your political analysis is not complete: the hate-filled Republican base (and it is a hate-filled base of voters) will go crazy. But in case you haven’t noticed, Democrats have won the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 presidential elections. The anti-immigrant tone from the Republican Party is costing them presidential elections because minority groups, many of of whom have undocumented family members, are voting overwhelmingly for Democratic presidents. Are you unaware of this? The big wigs in the Republican Party want immigration reform passed to remove it as a wedge issue in presidential campaigns. The Republican house refuses to take a vote on the bill because they fear their hate-filled base.

    @Mark: you may insult me, go ahead I really don’t care (your using homophobic language about yet another commenter on a gay blog tells me a lot about you) but the fact is, a child who grew up here, identifies with this country, loves this country, forged an American career and has worked hard and payed taxes here, is really IS just as American as I am. He is culturally an American and we should make it easier for him to remain here and continue to contribute to our society instead of sending him back to a place he doesn’t even know. What does that accomplish other than making xenophobes like you feel better? It accomplishes nothing.

  42. says

    $11 billion in taxes, and various social services they can’t get. That sounds fair. Oh, and send them back to countries where some of them have never lived and don’t speak the language!

    @Unicorn: don’t use big words on the trolls. They have no idea what intersectionality means.

    Immigration law prioritizes family, which until just a few months ago meant heterosexual families. So even if you were gay, you might pretend to be straight to enter the country. The dumb immigration laws actually support homophobia, or did until very very recently.

    LOL @ Mark. Perhaps you’ve been looking in the mirror recently? Because your description bears no resemblance to Ernie.

  43. Robert says

    I have yet to hear from any of the “deport him” commenters how, exactly, deporting Mr. Vargas benefits our country. He’s educated, he’s worked hard, built a career, supported himself and paid taxes. So what is the benefit of sending him away? How do we gain from that? Why lose the talents of someone who has so well benefited from the opportunities here?

  44. matziabb says

    I can’ t be sure if anyone here is real or just one person posting under various names. I’m really intrigued by this doc.

  45. says

    I don’t think we will deport the majority of them. I think the reality is we’ll just let them continue to live in this country undocumented, force them to continue to work the sh*t jobs for the sh*t pay while they pay are forced to pay taxes. We’re never going to rid this country of illegal aliens but we do have the right and power to block them from ever becoming legal citizens. I see that as a reality.

  46. David says

    It amazes and disgusts me to see some of the comments here… Laws MAY define what is legal, BUT laws aren’t always fair and reasonable; and they often represent the prejudices of a given period of time (and the LGBT Community should be more than aware of how unfair laws can be). I was breaking the law the first 10 years or so of my adult life, just for loving a person. I’d suggest that people do a little research on the history of immigration in this country before engaging in a discussion. Being a little better educated would help this country a lot! We used to have a program that allowed people to legally enter the USA to do seasonal work (the Bracero program, which was created in 1942 and ran through 1964). The need for the workers that crossed our borders legally to perform this work never went away… It’s a simple supply and demand issue. When the law changed in 1964, it meant that the people that used to be able to cross legally to work, had to find ways to cross illegally (often paying American’s thousands of dollars to help them cross – new underground businesses were set up). Our Immigration System needs a dramatic overhaul and it needs to be based on reality and the needs of the Nation, not the morality and prejudices of some!

  47. says

    What I’m reading over and over is the same message posted just a bit differently by the very same poster using an alias. I suspect the poster(s) to be one or two people. If you have to hide behind a fake moniker then you can’t -no, you won’t be taken seriously and that leads the rest of us to believe you must be undocumented yourself.

  48. Mark says


    “but the fact is, a child who grew up here, identifies with this country, loves this country, forged an American career and has worked hard and payed taxes here, is really IS just as American as I am. He is culturally an America”

    We know he grew up here. Because his parents violated the law and brought him here and then he chose to continue breaking the law and stayed. You are arguing that his criminal act is a justification for his criminal act.

    As for identifying with and “loving” this country, that is entirely subjective and is based on his own self-serving statements. While we should expect everyone who comes here as a permanent resident to love the country and identify with it, that in itself does not give anyone a right to stay. You also have to come here legally.

    As for working hard and building a career, I respect that. It could be a reason to waive the rule in his case. The problem is that he didn’t plead that a special waiver should be granted for the benefit of the US and its citizens. No, he and his supporters are denying the very legitimacy of US immigration laws and are challenging the notion that there is such a thing as illegal immigration. He is *not* an “American without papers.” He doesn’t get to declare that. And US immigration laws are not suggestions; they are laws to be obeyed. Since he doesn’t understand this, he needs to be deported, work ethic notwithstanding.


    Ernie, if a decrepit, emasculated shell of a man like you has a husband, he would have to be one of the following:

    1) the pizza delivery guy you have had locked in your basement since 1998

    2) a Real Doll

    3) one of those special friends who are only visible to you when you don’t take your meds.

  49. Kev C says

    It’s funny to see liberals defending predatory capitalism that exploits cheap labor while avoiding taxes and minimum wage laws. Modern immigration is this: Criminals want other criminals to work for them in return for residency rights.

  50. David says

    @Kev C

    Talk about reading between the lines… I’m not defending any predatory capitalism practices! If anything, all I’m trying to do is call attention to the fact that our current Immigration Laws are unrealistic and actually add to the undocumented immigration issue. People that used to come here to work and then return home, now cross the border illegally and stay because they can’t afford to pay the $3-6,000 that the “coyotes” charge them to assist in crossing the border. The current system also adds to employee abuse by businesses and I am opposed to that… But that doesn’t mean that I don’t understand the needs of business and let’s face it, citizens wouldn’t be lining up for some jobs even if the jobs paid well and had good benefits.

    Yes, I am a Liberal and proud of it!! A lot of Liberals are not opposed to business or making money… We would just like to see a reasonable set of standards that protect the average citizen and that don’t overly harm business.

  51. says

    @Mark: You do realize that an anonymous troll accusing the non-anonymous of faking a husband is juvenile and stupid, right? Calm yourself.

  52. Robert says

    @MikeRyan: if you’re referring to me, I am not using a “fake moniker,” my name is actually Robert, and I was born and raised in the United States. I simply feel great empathy for people in this situation, have encountered scores of people in similar situations through my work, and I’m passionate about the need for immigrantion reform. It’s not a black and white issue that’s simply resolved by “he broke the law, he should be deported.” It’s what the DREAM act was written to address, but Republicans won’t bring it for a vote in the House.

  53. Patrick says

    The “Viva La Raza-fication” of America must be stopped. No American value is more sacred than the rule of law–that’s what this is about — nothing more, nothing less. Illegal aliens have grown arrogantly accustomed to defying these values, and are now horribly offended that we will no longer tolerate their hands in our cookie jar.

  54. enchantra says

    Robert, One illegal in our country doesn’t matter. But we’re not dealing with one illegal, we’re dealing with 11 million illegals. Eleven million illegals who are making babies and making plans to bring in all of their relations. Five percent of the population of Mexico is living in the US illegally. This isn’t about one person, but people being people if you let them get away with it, more will come. If we give amnesty and citizenship to the illegals in the US now, another wave will come behind them. We have as much right to be secure as any other country. Mexico does not tolerate millions of Guatemalans crossing the border illegally. Japan does not tolerate millions of Korean and Chinese.