Jason Collins Weighs in on Tony Dungy's Michael Sam Remarks: VIDEO

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Jason Collins weighed in on Tony Dungy's remarks that Michael Sam would be a distraction for an NFL team.

Said Collins on TakePart Live:

"Personnel - coaches, owners - can look at my example in the NBA … and see that after two weeks back, it was about basketball. There were games, even a month after I was signed that reporters didn’t even ask me any questions. It will always go back to the sport because there are only so many ways they can write the article. There are only so many ways they can keep talking about LGBT issues when you’re a professional athlete because you’re a professional athlete first.”

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  1. Love this guy!

    Posted by: FakeOutrage | Jul 24, 2014 1:49:34 PM


  2. Jason Collins is so well spoken. I hope he runs for congress some day. As for Tony Dungy--he's a very religious practicing catholic. JFK promised to keep his catholicism out of his job--a good model Dungy might want to follow.

    Posted by: woody | Jul 24, 2014 2:37:45 PM


  3. Love this man.

    What I take away from most stories on this site is how deeply threatened so many of you are by the idea of a masculine gay guy like Collins, because it's these kind of gay men that truly make change.

    This is the wave of the future and a glimpse into the new male culture that will render the entire "gay" culture of effeminacy obsolete....and that cannot happen soon enough. I'm so happy that proud, masculine gay men are finally standing up to be counted and stand up for themselves in the public sphere.

    Posted by: Rick | Jul 24, 2014 2:38:42 PM


  4. Rick, Jason Collins despises you.

    Posted by: crispy | Jul 24, 2014 2:43:01 PM


  5. Oh, good -- this thread presumably about an interesting public LGBT figure has already become about the trolls. Quelle surprise.

    Trollroad, everybody!

    Posted by: oncemorewithfeeling | Jul 24, 2014 2:46:36 PM


  6. Yeah, Rick.

    You ought to see Jason voguing. He's fierce!!! Triple SNAPS!!!

    Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Jul 24, 2014 2:47:20 PM


  7. Really, Crispy?

    Because Jason makes a big deal about how he's just another one of the guys, and that his sexuality does not and should not offend his straight fellow players. While he is adamantly against the assumption that gay men aren't capable of embodying masculine societal roles, he certainly doesn't promote the stereotypes that have weighed down the gay male community for generations.

    Just like Collins, I don't really believe in the "gay"/"straight" paradigm--indeed, my vision is of all men being entirely free to express themselves sexually any way they wish to and that, once we reach that point, questions of "gay" men objectifying "straight" men will be as irrelevant as the concepts of "gay" and "straight" themselves.

    The real imperative is for men to liberate ourselves from women entirely--socially, emotionally, and sexually--and everything else will then take care of itself. I guarantee you that Jason Collins shares the same vision as I do. People like Jason Collins show the Tony Dungy's of the world some gay men are normal.

    Posted by: Rick | Jul 24, 2014 2:50:57 PM


  8. He made very points. He is also very good looking.

    Posted by: Matt27 | Jul 24, 2014 2:57:46 PM


  9. You know, Rick, you fascinate me today. You love Jason Collins. Considering all the things you've said about Black people on this blog--you love Jason Collins?

    Well, I'm not going to be the one to spring it on you.

    Please ask the attendants on your ward at Bellevue Hospital to find your glasses for you. Put them on and take another good look at Mister Collins. Then, come back and tell us how much you love him.

    Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Jul 24, 2014 3:05:46 PM


  10. Careful, Derrick. Next thing you know you'll suddenly be posting transphobic comments (*wink*)

    And I'm sure Rick is just waiting to call you a crazy black queen or whatever. Or post as you. Whatever comes first.

    Posted by: Tyler | Jul 24, 2014 3:09:26 PM


  11. @ONCEMOREWITHFEELING: You're as worthless as Rick.

    As long as Andy continues to use an archaic commenting system that allows trolls like Rick and Petey to post here, people are going to continue responding to them. This site ranks pretty well in Google, so plenty of people come here who aren't regulars, and they need to see some sort of rebuttal to the ridiculousness that the Ricks and Peteys post.

    If the discussion here bothers you so much, you could, ya know, just stop coming here. You won't be missed.

    Posted by: crispy | Jul 24, 2014 4:00:46 PM


  12. Tony Dungy needs to be reminded that in the era just before he played, Black players were not permitted to compete.

    It wasn't until the era in which Tony Dungy himself played, that the first Black quarterback emerged. Still, there were no Black headcoaches.

    Dungy was one of the first wave of Black coaches, because the NFL made it MANDATORY for teams to give Black coaches interviews before filling head coaching vacances, and strongly encouraged employing Black coaches.

    To this day, there are no Black principal owners in the NFL. I wonder if Dungy has ever stopped to consider that.

    Does Dungy REALLY need to have it spelled out to him how important inclusivity it? Or is he all "I've got mine, you get yours." Is he such and Uncle Tom that the NFL and NBC can buy his silence with a head coaching job and a cushy broadcasting gig? James Harris and Denny Green didn't just "happen" because a head coach and a team owner didn't want to "deal with the distractions". They dealt with the distractions and paved the way for other African-Americans to get a chance.

    Tony Dungy owes Michael Sam, other gay football players, and ESPECIALLY closeted gay football players a huge apology. It's not enough that he drove his own son to suicide, but he's contributing to the marginalization of an historically oppressed group. Shame on him

    Posted by: Historical Perspective | Jul 24, 2014 4:08:10 PM


  13. Rick:
    You are high again?
    "The real imperative is for men to liberate ourselves from women entirely"
    You want all men to turn gay? You know some kind of conversion therapy turning straight men gay?

    Posted by: simon | Jul 24, 2014 5:08:10 PM


  14. This NBA Jason Collins as I understand has 98 on his shirt (I don't follow NBA) in honor of the drug dealer and child molester METHEW Wayne Shepard. Let me say that I do not care why Methew W. Shepard was killed-only he and A.J. McKinney knows no matter why, but I am not going to do a vigil for a child molester. Judy L. Shepard thinks it is OK for homosexuals to molest children as Judy L. Shepard sees nothing wrong with her son molesting 8 year old boys and Judy L. Shepard earns anywhere from $5,000 to $20,000 per speech. Judy L. Shepard’s interest is to profit from her son’s 1998 killing. The Shepard Foundation is a propaganda group whose main interest is to push an agenda and to make money. & again, Methew W. Shepard vicitimized 2 others such as the Cody bartender in August 1998 and a bouncer. Methew W. Shepard’s false accusation against the Cody bartender in August 1998 of homosexual gang rape is wrong. Methew W. Methew W. Shepard’s a child molester & a victimizer of young men. Yes, that it is attacking a mourning mom, but I care more about the 8 year old boys who Methew W. Shepard molested over him getting murdered. Judy L. Shepard, the Shepard Foundation and the Laramie Project must understand that while Methew W. Shepard should not have been murdered, Methew W. Shepard will not be able to molest any more children and getting murdered does not change the truth Methew W. Shepard’s a child molester and likely a drug dealer. The Shepard Foundation, Laramie Project and Judy L. Shepard all are apologists for child molestation when the molestation is homosexual.

    No, Stephen Jimenez does not know everything. Sheriff O’Malley and Undersheriff R.J. DeBree also do not know everything-they did not investigate Methew W. Shepard’s past and they can not comment on Methew W. Shepard’s association with drug dealers because they did not investigate witnesses.. The journalists who critique Stephen Jimenez do not know everything as the journalists did not interview the witnesses who Stephen Jimenez did. Stephen Jimenez did a 13 year investigation & he reached his conclusions after interviewing them. Some of the witnesses are anonymous as some worked in law enforcement and some are criminals who chose to remain anonymous as they do not want to incriminate themselves, but there are also drug dealers such as Mark K. Rohrbacher who chose to identify themselves. Sometimes, investigations require testimony from criminals. Just because a person is a criminal, does not mean that they are not credible. Of course the witnesses who Stephen Jimenez are not likely to know everything about Methew W. Shepard, but there are things they saw which can not be dismissed.

    Let’s look @ what we do know about Methew W. Shepard. No matter why the murder happened, the idea that A.J. McKinney and Methew W. Shepard were strangers who did not know eachother until that day is rubbish. There are many witnesses-Doc O’ Connor’s ex girlfriend, Elaine Baker (bartender), M.K. Rohrbacher (drug dealer), Tristan (Ted) Henson (Methew W. Shepard’s former lover) & others who saw them together. Even if 1 believes the murder was motivated by hatred of homosexuals, it is truth that A.J. McKinney and Methew W. Shepard knew eachother though A.J. McKinney denies it. There are too many witnesses who saw both men together. Of course the witnesses can only say they saw them together and can not know it all.

    Methew W. Shepard associating with drug dealers in both Wyoming and Colorado is not disputable. Methew W. Shepard went into bars where drugs were sold and he did associate with drug dealers-we know that he went to bars named Tornado, Ranger, Library & other bars in Wyoming and Colorado where drugs were sold. Methew W. Shepard’s friend Tina LaBrie expressing concerns about Methew W. Shepard’s drug and $ problems. We know that Methew W. Shepard was having $ problems (spending so much on limosuine rides in Doc O’ Connor’s limousine). Methew W. Shepard’s a junky (proven fact), drunkard and had money problems. Sheriff O’Malley has said that if Methew W. Shepard sold drugs, the cops would have caught him which is which is dishonest-Sheriff David S. O’Malley and Sgt. R.J. DeBree know cops don’t always catch all the criminals and that many drug dealers escape detection. Sheriff David S. O’Malley and Sgt. Robert J. DeBree have arrested drug dealers and they know how it’s the family and friends who get surprised after they learn some1 they know is a drug dealer. Sheriff David S. O’Malley and Sgt. Robert J. DeBree know that it’s unlikely MW. Shepard told his friends and family that he was a drug dealer, and even if Methew W. Shepard did tell his friends and family that he sold drugs, don’t think his family will admit this ugly as they had tried to hide the fact that Methew Wayne Shepard molested 8 year old boys and got counseling. Now was Methew W. Shepard’s assocation with drug dealers and going into bars where drugs were sold more than buying drugs ? Was Methew W. Shepard a drug dealer or a drug courier? Stephen Jimenez thinks so and he believes it was the Denver circle. The journalists who critique Stephen Jimenez can not prove or disprove Stephen Jimenez’s conclusion.

    Peter W. Johnson, of course Stephen Jimenez does not know it all but his conclusions are sincere and honest. While homosexual groups complain about Stephen Jimenez saying the murder case is complicated and possibly not a hate crime, I think that is incidental-main reason homosexual groups are offended by Stephen Jimenez’s book is because he talked about the ugly truths about who M.W. Shepard was. You don’t always know the secrets friends and family have. If a person is a drug dealer, then they are usually not going to tell their friends and family that they do this. Even if Metthew W. Shepard did tell his friends and family that he sold drugs, don’t think his family will admit this ugly truth about him, as they had tried to hide the fact that Methew Wayne Shepard molested 8 year old boys and got counseling for it. Laramie Project, Shepard Foundation & Big Island Chronicle Tiffany Camille Hunt sees nothing wrong with Methew W. Shepard selling drugs and molesting children so their view is rubbish.

    Posted by: funinsnowfall | Jul 24, 2014 5:52:48 PM


  15. I again read the Book of Matt by Stephen Jimenez for the 2nd time and this time took notes reading his book-I have now read the book twice. Methew W. Shepard, when I read about a gay (transexuals are mutilated gays/lesbians) bashing case in the news, I wonder what the view is of the journalist reporting this on homosexuality/lesbianism. I also wonder if the journalist is a homosexual or lesbian and if so, are they setting aside their bias and reporting the news with no problems. I do not trust news that I get from Daily Kos or the Huffington Post on their coverage of gay bashing cases because they predictably make the homosexual look like an innocent victim no matter what wrong the gay does.

    In the Methew W. Shepard case, the mainstream media left out ugly truths on who he was. When Stephen Jimenez’s Book of Matt came out in October 2013, the Huffington Post, Daily Kos & others condemned Stephen Jimenez (who is a homosexual journalist) for writing ugly truths about who M.W. Shepard was-mainly a drug dealer or courier. Casper Star Tribune covered the Shepard case and I have talked to 2 of their ex-journalists Kerry A. Drake and JC Marsden (Executive Director of Shepard Foundation)-both men leave out ugly truths on who Metthew Wayne Shepard was and Kerry A. Drake though he no longer works for Tribune along with Tiffany C. Hunt (another former CST Reporter who now runs Big Island Chronicle) continue to leave out the ugly truths of who M.W. Shepard was because their loyalty is to Laramie Project.

    Kerry A. Drake, JC Marsden and Tiffany C. Hunt are portrayed in Laramie Project.Big Island Chronicle's journalist Tiffany Camille Edwards Hunt is a drug junky who smokes cocaine and marijuana. Big Island Chronicle's Tiffany Camille Edwards Hunt farts and shits in front of her kids and her 2 children have smelled Tiffany Camille Edwards Hunt's turds. Big Island Chronicle's Tiffany C. Edwards Hunt is a fat Squaw which is why Tiffany Camille Edwards Hunt smokes drugs and again, she farts and shits in front of kids.

    Casper Star Tribune when they covered the Shepard case left out ugly truths of who the victim Methew W. Shepard was. But no matter why the murder happened, Metthew Wayne Shepard being killed by 2 men does not change the ugly truths of who he was & M.W. Shepard knew 1 of his murderers (A.J. McKinney). It’s not believed he knew the 2nd man (R.A. Henderson) and I agree with Stephen Jimenez that Russell A. Henderson should have been convicted of a lesser crime such as Manslaughter and that he should have gotten a jury trial but got bad representation by his lawyers who urged him to take a plea when he wanted a jury trial. Book of Matt discloses ugly truths of who the victim was-most of it old such as him being a junky (old news), but the new information is that the victim was a drug dealer. Book of Matt by Stephen Jimenez Stephen Jimenez’s evidence are 1st party witnesses he interviewed-over 100 of them over 13 years.

    Those witnesses verified Methew Wayne Shepard’s a junky (old news), drug dealer and courier-witnesses such as Mark K. Rohrbacher (former drug dealer), Shannon Shingleton and others. There are bartenders such as Elaine Baker who saw both AJ McKinney and Methew W. Shepard together, so this is verified information Methew W. Shepard was a drug junky and he went into bars where drugs were sold. Methew W. Shepard became a drug junky because antidepressants he was taking was not working and he mixed drugs-cocaine, Ecstasy and Meth with antidepressants. Methew W. Shepard had depression, PTSD and he mixed drugs with antidepressants.

    Why could Methew W. Shepard have gotten involved in dealing drugs & or be a courier-$ problems-he bought them and when he had $ problems, he sold them & or was a courier-this is verified by witnesses who Stephen Jimenez interviewed. These witnesses are credible as they earn nothing saying this. Stephen Jimenez verified that Methew W. Shepard would use Doc O’Connor’s limousine services. Methew W. Shepard was living an extravagant life. His dad who is an engineer in Saudi Arabia could not have sent him enough $ to pay for it. Methew W. Shepard when he sees money problems with his drugs would likely sell some in order to make money. Stephen Jimenez in his book talks of the Denver circuit and this is the drug circuit which Metthew W. Shepard was involved with.

    Near book’s end, it is incidentally mentioned that Metthew W. Shepard was a victim of child molestation by 3 different people-an adult @ his church, a friend and a relative and when Metthew W. Shepard was 15 years old, he was arrested for molesting 2 neighborhood 8 year old boys-M.W. Shepard got counseling for it. It is also incidentally mentioned that Metthew W. Shepard was involved as a witness with a May 1998 arson (Officer Flint Waters) but what his role was will never be known.

    M.W. Shepard in August 1998 (2 months before his death) attempted indecent exposure on a Cody bartender and bartender defended himself by decking M.W. Shepard. The next day, M.W. Shepard falsely accused the bartender of homosexual gang rape. When medical tests disproved M.W. Shepard, the excuse Methew W. Shepard gave to cops was that he was drunk, had PTSD and could not remember. M.W. Shepard was also once banned from a bar after a drunk M.W. Shepard committed assault and battery on the bouncer by grabbing bouncer’s crotch against will. M.W. Shepard should have been arrested and convicted by jury for those 2 incidents.

    With the criticism about Stephen Jimenez writing a book to make money, Judy L. Shepard and M.W. Shepard’s friend Romaine Patterson both wrote books about him. The last 2 also had interest to make money and since they are his mom and friend, they are biased and bias meddles with facts. The Shepard Foundation is a propaganda group whose main interest is to push an agenda and to make money. Judy L. Shepard, Shepard Foundation and Laramie Project making $ off the case. Stephen Jimenez incidentally mentioned in his book that M.W. Shepard had been molested by 3 different people including a distant relative. If Metthew.W. Shepard had not been a victim of repeated molestations, it’s possible M.W. Shepard would have turned out straight instead of gay. Any conduct can be learned including sexual conduct and M.W. Shepard suffering child molestation damaged his thinking and possibly caused him to behave sexually in ways he would not have had the molestation not happened. And again, Methew W. Shepard molested 2 neighborhood 8 year old boys when he was 15 years old and got counseling for it. Stephen Jimenez interviewed a relative of 1 of the boys who M.W. Shepard had molested.

    Stephen Jimenez in his book did go into irrelevant topics such as an unrelated murder trial in Wyoming where a teenage girl was murdered (Daphne Saulk and the man Kevin Robison was convicted of Manslaughter), an unrelated killing in Colorado (1993 of Steve Heyman a gay psychologist), but what he said about M.W. Shepard is what he learned (though again most old news) after interviewing many witnesses. If Stephen Jimenez had been an FRC journalist, he would likely have been condemned as 1 of those Christians but Stephen Jimenez is a gay journalist. While gay groups complain about Stephen Jimenez saying the murder case is complicated, that is incidental-main reason gay groups are offended by Stephen Jimenez’s book is because he talked about the ugly truths about who M.W. Shepard was. Methew Wayne Shepard does not deserve hero worship. M.W. Shepard being a drug dealer was something he likely kept secret from his family because honestly, if a person is selling drugs, they usually aren’t going to tell their friends and family that they commit this crime. Even if Metthew W. Shepard did tell his friends and family that he sold drugs, don’t think his family will admit this ugly truth about him, as they had tried to hide the fact that Methew Wayne Shepard molested 8 year old boys and got counseling.

    Posted by: funinsnowfall | Jul 24, 2014 5:59:21 PM


  16. Mental patient snowisfun/funissnow/funissnowfall is here to post yet another insane rant.

    Please everyone just ignore it.

    Posted by: Tyler | Jul 24, 2014 7:35:15 PM


  17. Jason is my god!

    The guy has such outstanding presence....

    Too bad so many of the comments here were so off-target... The trolls setback the possibility of an adult dialogue...

    Posted by: TonyJazz | Jul 24, 2014 7:48:24 PM


  18. @TonyJazz...he is a thing of beauty...inside & out. We do get sidetracked easily, don't we?

    Posted by: Johnnybegood | Jul 24, 2014 8:24:05 PM


  19. Dungy is pig scum.

    That is all.

    Posted by: MaryM | Jul 25, 2014 3:57:41 AM


  20. "Jesus" was a child molester. It's on the internet. You can look it up.

    Posted by: Joy of Man's Desiring | Jul 25, 2014 11:10:14 AM


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