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  1. Dback says

    KC had one of the best quotes (from her grandmother) I ever heard about faith, the Bible, fundamentalism, etc.: “I read the Bible like I eat fish–I take the meat that serves me well, but I don’t choke on the bones.” Wise, funny, compassionate woman.

  2. Rick says

    Using Broadway diva Chenoweth was a mistake. The focus on marriage equality should zero in on shattering stereotypes–replacing the image of gay men as effeminate, diva-worshiping, out-of-the-social-mainstream types with an image of manliness and courage, by using spokespeople that don’t play into society’s expectations of stereotypical gay behavior (such as effeminate mannerisms).

    However, the HRC makes it clear to us what the the REAL battle is–namely, to eradicate homophobia by encouraging masculine behavior on the part of gay men–and away from the absurd pursuit on the part of some of a gender-bending ideology that will only prove self-defeating. A freedom from diva culture = equality.

  3. MaryM says

    Using Broadway diva Chenoweth was a mistake. The focus on marriage equality should zero in on shattering stereotypes–replacing the image of gay men as effeminate, diva-worshiping, out-of-the-social-mainstream types with an image of manliness and courage, by using spokespeople that don’t play into society’s expectations of stereotypical gay behavior (such as effeminate mannerisms).

    However, the HRC makes it clear to us what the the REAL battle is–namely, to eradicate homophobia by encouraging masculine behavior on the part of gay men–and away from the absurd pursuit on the part of some of a gender-bending ideology that will only prove self-defeating. A freedom from diva culture = equality.

  4. Rey says

    Mary, Mary, so very contrary…

    Chenoweth is a perfect person to use because she transcends the stereotypical “Broadway diva” persona. It’s exactly because she is such a loving, inclusive, and down-to-Earth person that makes her a perfect spokesperson.

    Go pound sand.

  5. will says

    But the focus of marriage equality ISN’T about shattering stereotypes — it isn’t about effeminate men or overly-macho men or gay personality types. It’s just about letting men marry men (or women, women) whatever the personality traits.

    Rick: You talk a lot about effeminate men, yet you never address the issue of gay men overcompensating in macho drag (leather, uniforms, excessive facial hair) — the parody of the masculine — which is the flip side of the drag queen.

  6. Rick says

    Will, I’m sorry. I forgot how you all prefer your gay “men” to act like bigoted stereotypes. You all can put on your lipstick and pretend you’re bunch of trannys if you like but that’s not what real gay men are though. The “macho drag” you speak of isn’t a parody if it’s truth. Macho attire is a celebration of real masculinity. Men being real men, not some simpering pansy in heels that has come to be the stereotype of homosexual men. Real gay men celebrate their masculinity and take pride in it. Sorry if you cannot tell the difference.

  7. says

    We need to get the religion out of law when religion wants to be outside of the law. If people want religious exemptions from law, then people should be able to be legally exempt from religion. Why doesn’t that work both ways?

  8. EJC says

    It appears the point of Kristin public service announcement has been totally lost regarding the above comment on who are the more masculine gay men, we need friends like her with the courage to say the right things at the right time.

    You guys just don’t seem to get the point, grow up!

  9. Kazzuhik says

    You know, in many cases, effeminacy in some homosexual men is the result of feeling threatened by the display of (let me call it this way) heterosexual masculinity, basically how men are encouraged and expected to interact with women, exhibition of some degree of aggressiveness and the never ending stigmatization and condemnation of any thoughts and feelings towards the same sex.

    Ever since “heterosexual masculinity” is all about demonizing thoughts and feelings for the same sex aggressively aloud some homosexual kids feel this threat at a young age and will reject this monster that treats them with aggression. Women instead are more protective and these kids will find in them (wome)the support men don’t provide to them and eventually these kids will acquire some of the mannerisms their protectors (women, mothers, sisters, etc) display daily.

    Never see an effeminate man as an enemy.

    I make a difference between plain masculinity and heterosexual masculinity since plain masculinity is not a heterosexual trait but it is found in men of all sexual orientations and asexuals whereas heterosexual masculinity is a specifc type of masculinity that mainly is about the interaction with women (the way a man is supposed to treat women, the constant flattering, flirting, seduction and superhero-like behaviour a man is expected to portray)and the opposition to anything and everybody non-heterosexual.

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