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GOP 2016 Hopefuls Punt on Alabama Gay Marriage Questions

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While Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore's pageantry plays out over the gay marriage fight in his state, Politico notes a number of likely GOP 2016 contenders are choosing to sit this one out.

When pressed on the fight in the Deep South state, where the chief justice has ordered county officials to ignore a federal court ruling permitting same-sex marriages, likely GOP 2016 contenders reached by POLITICO or interviewed elsewhere have largely tried to sidestep specifics.

Even some of the most conservative hopefuls prefer instead to talk more broadly about federalism and states’ rights, comments that come as the U.S. Supreme Court considers whether same-sex marriage is a constitutional right applicable nationwide.

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio’s answer is a typical example: “The problem is, I just don’t know the details of what arguments they are using” in Alabama, he said, adding that while he has “always believed that marriage has always been defined by states and regulated by states and should continue to be,” he would respect the Supreme Court decision.

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who is pushing a constitutional amendment to require that the federal government defer to the states on same-sex marriage, also avoided discussing the particulars of the Alabama case. “My view is that marriage is a question for the states,” he said.

CarsonPolitico adds the one notable exception was Dr. Ben Carson (right), who defended Moore's obstructionist efforts and said Moore "understands the importance of preserving states’ rights in the modern post-Civil War world in which we live."

The article also goes on to point out how other contenders like Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal, Rick Perry, Scott Walker and Mike Huckabee are addressing the Alabama question and the wider issue of a likely future where nationwide marriage equality is the law of the land. 

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Bobby Jindal Says Constitutional Amendment the Answer if SCOTUS Defies States on Gay Marriage: VIDEO

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Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal told CNN's New Day that he's not changing his opinion ('like Obama did') on marriage based on polls:

"I'm not one of those politicians...My faith teaches me that marriage is between a man and a woman. I don't believe in discrimination against anybody. I'm not for changing the definition of marriage and that's why I hope the Supreme Court decides not to overturn what the states have decided. In Louisiana it's in our state constitution. My hope is that the Supreme Court will respect what state legislators and states have already decided."

Jindal dodged a question several times about whether he's comfortable with local judges in Alabama defying a federal court order to issue marriage licenses to gay couple, instead saying,

"If the Supreme Court were to [rule for same-sex marriage] I think the remedy would be a constitutional amendment in the Congress to tell the courts you can't overturn what the states have decided."

Watch part of the interview, AFTER THE JUMP...

Full clip HERE.

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Social Conservatives Demanding GOP 2016 Candidates Weigh In Against Gay Marriage

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With gay marriage legal in most states and the Supreme Court set to weigh in this summer, likely ruling in favor of marriage equality, this issue should be all but done with by now. Even members of the GOP elite are switching in favor and would be happy to move on from the issue...but their constituents won't let them, as Politico points out. 

Iowa Senate contender Sam Clovis said: 

If you dodge the question, then it’s the kiss of death. Candidates have got to be declarative about where they stand. Period. If you’re not vocally pro-life and pro-traditional marriage, I don’t think you can win here because you’re going to get hammered.

The elite may desire to move on or even change, and the less-elite like Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, and Scott Walker are willing to concede the loss, but the Tea Party is only too happy to keep wallowing in the issue with Ben Carson, Bobby Jindal, Mike Huckabee, and Ted Cruz all continuing to wave the "gay marriage is evil" banner:

  • “I don’t think it’s over. I don’t hear any fat lady singing. I think we have to continue to stand up for what we believe in." - Ben Carson
  • "There’s no such thing in the Constitution as judicial supremacy where the courts make a ruling and it becomes quote ‘the law of the land." - Mike Huckabee
  • "I know that many politicians are evolving, or so-called evolving, on this issue based on the polls. I don’t change my views based on the polls." - Bobby Jindal
  • "From the beginning of this country, marriage has been a question of the states, and we should not have the federal government, or unelected judges, setting aside the policy judgment of the elected legislatures and imposing their own instead." - Ted Cruz

Making the issue even nastier and more complicated is the insistence of evangelicals entangling the issue of legal, civil gay marriage with religious liberty violations.


Bryan Fischer Says The Gay Agenda Is Driven By The 'Unvarnished Energy Of Satan': WATCH

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Wingnut Bryan Fischer is having another go at the “directly demonic” “homosexual agenda”, reports Right Wing Watch.

Fischer, leader of anti-gay listed hate group the American Family Association, was responding to a caller on his radio broadcast yesterday who had taken umbrage with protesters at Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal’s Saturday prayer rally.

Jindal's all-day prayer rally at Louisiana State University aimed to drum up evangelical support for a potential 2016 bid for the White House. 

Always first to shout loudest when challenged, the god-fearing caller claimed that the devil himself sent protesters to Jindal’s rally because he is really, really unhappy.

Fischer of course agreed wholeheartedly:

"I don't think you will ever find a more directly demonic energy than when you deal with the homosexual agenda.

“They're vicious. They are mean. You literally are staring into virtually the unvarnished energy of Satan himself when you come up against the forces that are pushing the homosexual agenda forward”.

Vicious. Mean. Unvarnished energy. Pot. Kettle. Black.

Listen to Fischer’s nasty outburst, AFTER THE JUMP...

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Bobby Jindal and Ted Cruz Want to Enshrine Anti-gay Discrimination in the U.S. Constitution

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Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal said today he supports Sen. Ted Cruz' proposed amendment to the U.S. Constitution that would enable states to continue outlawing gay marriage regardless of any future Supreme Court ruling on the issue, Talking Points Memo reports:

ABC's "This Week' host George Stephanopoulos asked Jindal if he backed former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee's (R) remark that states should just ignore a Supreme Court ruling legalizing gay marriage.

"I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. My faith teaches me that, my Christian faith teaches me that," Jindal responded. "If the Supreme Court were to throw out our law, our constitutional amendment -- I hope they wouldn't do that -- if they were to do that, I certainly will support Ted Cruz and others that are talking about making an amendment in the congress and D.C., a constitutional amendment to allow states to continue to define marriage."

Washington Blade reported Wednesday on Cruz' renewed call for a constitutional amendment to stop marriage equality:

“I’m a constitutionalist. From the beginning of this country, marriage has been a question of the states, and we should not have the federal government, or unelected judges, setting aside the policy judgment of the elected legislatures and imposing their own instead.” 

As he announced in October, Cruz told the Blade he still intends to introduce a constitutional amendment that would prohibit judges from overturning state laws on marriage, but suggested courts already lack the authority to rule in favor of marriage equality. 

“Because, as I said, I’m a constitutionalist,” Cruz said. “If a state chooses to adopt gay marriage, that’s within its constitutional authority to do so, but if it chooses not to, if it chooses traditional marriage, that is also within its constitutional purview. Part of the genius of the framers of our Constitution was allowing for the now 50 states to be laboratories of democracy, to adopt and reflect different policy choices state by state.” 

Earlier today, we reported on Jindal's prayer rally held at LSU over the weekend that featured a variety of self-proclaimed prohets, doomsday sayers, and anti-gay nuts. 


Bobby Jindal Kicks Off Potential 2016 Presidential Run With Anti-gay Hate Group Prayer Rally: VIDEO

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On Saturday, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal headlined an all-day prayer rally at Louisiana State University in an effort to drum up evangelical support for a potential 2016 bid for the White House. 

The Response, as the prayer rally was called, was hosted by the rabidly anti-gay American Family Association and featured various self-proclaimed prophets, doomsday sayers, and other assorted religious nuts as Right Wing Watch points out

The LSU community, which had repeatedly denounced the event in the lead up to this Saturday, showed up to protest the event, the AP reports:

"You've heard today is not about political speeches. Today is about humbling ourselves before the Lord. Today we repent for our sins," he said. [...]

RallyOutside the prayer event, critics held a protest, saying the American Family Association, which the Southern Poverty Law Center has classified as a hate group, promotes discrimination against people who are gay or of non-Christian faiths.

Protesters accused Jindal of using the rally for political gain.

"I just knew this wasn't what LSU stands for. These aren't LSU values, Louisiana values or American values," said Peter Jenkins, a 26-year-old graduate student and protest organizer.

Jindal hasn't commented directly on the views of the American Family Association, which has linked same-sex marriage and abortion to disasters such as tornadoes and Hurricane Katrina.

On Friday, Rachel Maddow devoted a segment of her show to highlighting one of the crazier backers of The Response - Cindy Jacobs. You'll recall Jacobs as the woman who claims to have a direct line to God and that God has given her special powers - such as the ability to predict natural disasters and raise people from the dead. 

Watch Rachel's killer segment, AFTER THE JUMP...

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