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The Gay Sex Lives Of Irish Catholic Priests Are Exposed, Including Visits To Gay Bars

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A new book by former seminarian Dr John Weafer has revealed that there is a strong gay scene among priests in the Irish Catholic Church, reports the Independent.

Thirty-Three Good Men: Celibacy, Obedience and Identity analyses priests' views on sexuality based on a series of interviews conducted by Weafer, who is now married with children.

One of the interviewees, identified as “Fr L”, reveals that it was only after he was ordained in the 1990s that he ended up having sex with another priest.

After "fumbling around" with another priest, Fr L "discovered a strong clerical gay scene in Ireland.” He added that there are "quite a lot of gay guys in the priesthood" and on one occasion he recognized at least nine priests when he visited a gay bar in Ireland.

According to Weafer, the church hierarchy in Ireland would not be shocked by such revelations because there is an awareness of what is going on. He claims that “as long as priests don't go public and don't flaunt those actions that don't correspond with being a celibate priest" the church turns a blind eye.

Pope Francis recently came under attack from conservative bishops following attempts to introduce language to Catholic doctrine that is more accepting of gay people.

Ireland is expected to hold a referendum on same-sex marriage early next year

Last year, Italian news outlets claimed to have uncovered a hook-up site for gay priests.

Yesterday, Catholic bishops released a document explaining the church’s opposition to extending marriage rights to gay couples


Irish Catholic Bishops Release Manifesto Opposing Same-Sex Marriage

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In preparation for an expected referendum on same-sex marriage early next year, the Catholic Church in Ireland has issued a 16-page statement warning that gay marriage would be a “grave injustice,” reports The Journal.

“The Meaning of Marriage,” issued by the Irish Catholic Bishops’ Conference, aims to inform Catholics “in preparation for the debate which will inevitably unfold during the coming referendum.”

The document argues that “marriage provides for the continuation of the human race and the development of human society” and to extend marriage rights to gay couples would “undermine it as the fundamental building block of our society.”

Safe_imageIgnoring single and LGBT parents, it states “children have a natural right to a mother and a father.”

At the launch of the document yesterday, unmarried celibate Bishop of Elphin Kevin Doran said:

“Marriage is, of its nature, a committed relationship between a man and woman which is open to the transmission of life.”

Speaking at a conference organized by anti-gay Catholic activist group the Iona Institute, Doran claimed that the church’s opposition to gay marriage is “not about homosexuality or the gay lifestyle, it is about the meaning of marriage.” Bock the Robber provides an excellent investiagtion into the Iona institute here.

Earlier this week, Irish Taoiseach (Prime Minister) Enda Kenny visited a gay bar in Dublin to support his party's LGBT group.

Watch Armagayddon, a video about the potential absolute horror of marriage equality reaching Ireland, AFTER THE JUMP...

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Irish Bishop Says Opposition to Marriage Equality Has Nothing to Do With 'The Gay Lifestyle' - VIDEO

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Irish bishop Kevin Doran has said that his opposition to same-sex marriage is “not about homosexuality or the gay lifestyle, it is about the meaning of marriage”, reports the Irish Times.

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Doran, the bishop of Elphin since July and Secretary General of the Eucharistic Congress 2012, made his comments during a talk organized by anti-gay activist group the Iona Institute on “Marriage and the Common Good.” Members of the Iona Institute sued state broadcaster RTE earlier this year after drag performer Panti Bliss accused them of homophobia.

Doran, an unmarried celibate, warned the Irish government that legalizing same-sex marriage would remove “the unique relationship between marriage and procreation.”

Opening what is likely to be an unpleasant debate with a hysterical suggestion that marriage equality will lead to people marrying their pet hamsters, Doran said:

“Since [procreation] is probably the principal reason for the State to have any interest in regulating marriage ... why bother regulating it at all? One might even ask, why in that case would the State restrict marriage to two people? What, in the final analysis, is the difference between a ‘sexual friendship’ (in which the State has no interest) and a marriage?”

Ignoring the realities of day-to-day life and insulting same-sex families into the bargain, he added:

“As they mature, children benefit from the love and care of both mother and father, and from their parents’ committed and exclusive love for each other. Unlike friendships, which vary in kind and degree and formality, marriage ... has enough objective structure, apart from the spouses’ preferences, to be legally regulated.”

Watch Doran talk about preparations for the 2012 Eucharistic Conference, AFTER THE JUMP...

A referendum on same-sex marriage is expected in Ireland early next year.  Doran’s comments are likely to be seen as an opening salvo in the Catholic church’s opposition.

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Tony Perkins Wants You to Know that the Pope Is Still Firmly Against Gay Marriage: VIDEO

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FRC hate leader Tony Perkins recently had a chat with Fox News correspondent Tucker Carlson about Perkins' visit to the Vatican last week for the Pope's discussion on the state of marriage and the family. Perkins was joined at the summit by a number of other anti-gay Christian leaders, as well as representatives from 13 other religions.

Hoping to quash any rumblings that the Pope was changing his tune on marriage, Perkins said in part:

"The Pope was very clear on this, that children have a right to grow up in a home with a father and a mother...Marriage and family are in crisis. And that's not just an American problem, it's a global problem. And so we have a responsibility to do something to give the best possible environment for children to grow up in and that's a mom and a dad...This is not just an issue for the church. We had 14 different religions - taoism, jainism, all these different religions that don't have any theological elements in common, but they have a common understanding of what marriage is because it's rooted in nature. It's rooted in the order of creation."

"Of course," Carlson agreed. 

Watch, AFTER THE JUMP...

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Is Pope Francis Sending Ambiguous Messages About Marriage And Family?

PopePope Francis kicked off the Vatican's "traditional marriage" summit this week with a discussion on the state of marriage and the family in today's world - with some potentially mixed messages. In Francis' address, “The Complementarity of Man and Woman in Marriage,” he reinforces the idea of marriage and family, but it seems he might also be ambiguously referring to gay couples in several passages throughout the commentary, or at least one could deduce that he is from particular words used.

The basis of the address is based on the term "Complementarity," which means "situations where one of two things adds to, completes, or fulfills a lack in the other.” However, Francis puts the word in a Christian context.

He says:

"Christians find its deepest meaning in the first Letter to the Corinthians where Saint Paul tells us that the Spirit has endowed each of us with different gifts so that-just as the human body's members work together for the good of the whole-everyone's gifts can work together for the benefit of each (cf. 1 Cor. 12)."

Francis explains that the complementarity between women and men is the root of marriage and family, but the only other explicit mention of specific pairings between men and women doesn't occur until the very end of the address. Francis also seems to challenge traditional gender roles and recognize the suffering of women.

He continues:

"When we speak of complementarity between man and woman in this context, let us not confuse that term with the simplistic idea that all the roles and relations of the two sexes are fixed in a single, static pattern.

"Evidence is mounting that the decline of the marriage culture is associated with increased poverty and a host of other social ills, disproportionately affecting women, children and the elderly. It is always they who suffer the most in this crisis."

It's unclear what social ills Francis is referring to but with his support for civil unions and taking responsibility for sexual abuse scandals within the church, Francis' views on LGBT people and the church makes him the most progressive, socially responsible pope to take office thus far. The most telling passage of Francis' commentary is the discussion of future generations and the trappings of ideological concepts.

He says:

"It is important that they do not give themselves over to the poisonous mentality of the temporary, but rather be revolutionaries with the courage to seek true and lasting love, going against the common pattern: this must be done. With regard to this I want to say one thing: Let us not fall into the trap of being qualified by ideological concepts.

"Family is an anthropological fact - a socially and culturally related fact. We cannot qualify it with concepts of an ideological nature, that are relevant only in a single moment of history, and then pass by. We can't speak today of a conservative notion of family or a progressive notion of family: Family is family! It can't be qualified by ideological notions. Family has a strength of its own (per se)."

However, Francis ends his address with a reinforcement about marriage between men and women as a natural, unique and fundamental good, and it's unclear whether the statement about ideological trappings means Francis is willing to think beyond religious dogma, is just a simple contradiction on his behalf or an attempt to find a delicate balance between traditional ideological teachings and empathy toward the plights of LGBT people. Additionally, the fact that he invited hate leader Tony Perkins to the summit seems damaging to both his and the summit's credibility. 


Homophobe Cardinal Raymond Burke Stirs Up Anti-Gay Hate In Ireland - VIDEO

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Speaking at a conference on "the Catholic family" in Limerick, Ireland last month, anti-gay conservative Cardinal Raymond Burke said he would refuse holy communion to any politician who has been supportive of same-sex marriage, reports RTE.

Burke, who in the past has said that anti-gay discrimination is "perfectly good and just," was last month demoted as head of the Vatican's "supreme court" by Pope Francis.  

Unsurprisingly, Burke was not willing to discuss his demotion but he was more than happy to call on the pope to clarify his position of same-sex marriage and on divorced people.

Burke's comments follow a recent meeting of Catholic bishops that broached the subject of homosexuality but failed to reach consensus following a backlash from conservatives.

At the conference, Burke declined to comment on an Irish referendum on same-sex marriage expected in early 2015.

Watch a short report followed by a longer interview with the grumpy Burke here.


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