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04/19/2007


Anti-Gay Catholic Blowhard Bill Donohue: Marriage is 'Not About Love': VIDEO

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Catholic League President Bill Donohue talks to Current TV's Jon Fugelsang about marriage equality:

"This idea of two men getting married is the most bizarre idea in human history...Christians have an obligation, particularly Catholics to follow natural law. The whole purpose of marriage is to have a family. It's not about making people happy. It's not about love."

After Donohue cites Leviticus, Fugelsang asks if he follows it: "What do you mean follow Leviticus? Do I sleep with a man? No I don't. I never have. I have no interest in doing so."

Also on the table: Bill Maher and the priest sex abuse scandal.

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Catholics Ordered to Skip Communion if They Back Gay Marriage

Edward Peters, a Detroit professor and legal adviser to the Vatican, and the archbishop of Detroit, Allen Vigneron (pictured), are telling Catholics who support same-sex marriage that they are not welcome to take communion, the Detroit Free Press reports:

VigneronIn a post on his blog last week, Peters said that Catholic teachings make it clear that marriage is between one man and one woman. And so, "Catholics who promote 'same-sex marriage' act contrary to" Catholic law "and should not approach for holy Communion," he wrote. "They also risk having holy Communion withheld from them ... being rebuked and/or being sanctioned."

Peters didn't specify a Catholic politician or public figure in his post. But he told the Free Press that a person's "public efforts to change society's definition of marriage ... amount to committing objectively wrong actions."

Archbishop Vigneron agrees:

And the archbishop of Detroit, Allen Vigneron, said Sunday that Catholics who receive Communion while advocating gay marriage would "logically bring shame for a double-dealing that is not unlike perjury."

UPDATE: Jeremy Hooper notes that Ed Peters is the father of Thomas Peters, Communications Director for the National Organization for Marriage (NOM).


FOX News Priest Claims Catholics are Oppressed by Gays: VIDEO

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Father Gerald Murray joined Megyn Kelly and a FOX News panel earlier this week to whine about how gays are the real bigots for oppressing and victimizing Catholics:

"You can caricature Christian teaching and call it bigotry and that's reasonable speech on the left these days. This nonsense that we want to disadvantage blacks, when we say that homosexual activity is sinful, to call that equivalent to denying them their basic rights — no, we're telling them if you want to live a good life, you have to follow what Jesus said. Basically, this is an attack on our freedom to preach what we believe."

Added Murray:

"They used to want to debate the merits of gay marriage. Now, they simply want to assert that this is the only rational and Christian thing to do, and historic Christianity and the Catholic Church says absolutely not. There's no such thing as gay marriage. You can name something marriage. It's not that. But, instead of debating me on that, they want to say, 'You're a bigot. You're equal to a racist. You're equal to an anti-feminist' and all the rest, and I say, hold on, that's not the reality at all. We love everyone, including sinners of all types, but we don't tell the sinner, well, you'd like to have a legal recognition for your relationship, go ahead and have it. We don't do that."

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Lawrence O'Donnell Rips Conservative Pundit Bill Kristol and Cardinal Dolan for Bigotry: VIDEO

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Yesterday I reported that conservative pundit Bill Kristol said the decision to get on the marriage equality train by some members of his party will "earn the contempt" of the GOP base and called those choosing to support it "pathetic".

And Cardinal Dolan, Archbishop of New York said gays are entitled to friendship but not marriage.

Last night, Lawrence O'Donnell gave them a piece of his mind.

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NYC Cardinal Timothy Dolan On Marriage In Catholic Church: Gays And Lesbians Are 'Entitled To Friendship': Video

CardinalABC’s This Week host George Stephanopoulos asked guest Cardinal Timothy Dolan how he would respond to Catholic gays and lesbians who want to get married in the Catholic Church.

Dolan, who claims the church "is not an anti-anybody," replied:

"Well, the first thing I’d say to them is, 'I love you, too. And God loves you. And you are made in God’s image and likeness. And – and we – we want your happiness. But – and you’re entitled to friendship.' But we also know that God has told us that the way to happiness, that – especially when it comes to sexual love – that is intended only for a man and woman in marriage, where children can come about naturally. We gotta be – we gotta do better to see that our defense of marriage is not reduced to an attack on gay people. And I admit, we haven’t been too good at that."

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Two Popes Come Together: VIDEO

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Pope Benedict met his successor Pope Francis at the papal retreat at Castel Gandolfo on Saturday afternoon, USA Today reports:

The two popes embraced on the helipad when Francis' helicopter arrived, Vatican spokesman Rev. Federico Lombardi said on Vatican Radio. The two were dressed in white, with Pope Francis wearing a cape and sash to distinguish himself from Benedict, who wore a simple white cassock.

When the duo went to the chapel, Lombardi said Benedict offered Francis the traditional kneeler used by the pope, but Francis wanted the pair to kneel together on the same pew, saying, "We are brothers."

Here's a pool video of their meeting.

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