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Top Catholics And Evangelicals: Gay Marriage Worse Than Divorce

Divorce is something that is roundly condemned in the Bible, and depending on the level of conservativeness of one's place of worship, cohabitation - that is, lovers living together without being married; though sometimes even just opposite-sex individuals sharing an apartment counts, even if the two have no romantic connection - is just as taboo. So why is it that that gay marriage has church leaders worked into a froth that exceeds the other two by leaps and bounds? 

Because gay marriage is worse, of course.

6a00d8341c730253ef01761769e740970c-800wiThat's right, even though Jesus himself has literally nothing to say about same-sex marriage but explicitly says divorce is a no-no, nearly 50 high-level Catholic and evangelical leaders (including pastor Rick Warren and former NOM Head Maggie Gallagher) signed off on a 5000-word manifesto to be released in the March edition of conservative journal First Things that says,

[W]hat the state defines as marriage no longer embodies God’s purposes in creation. An easy acceptance of divorce damages marriage; widespread cohabitation devalues marriage. But so-called same-sex marriage is a graver threat, because what is now given the name of marriage in law is a parody of marriage.

Of course, no anti-gay screed is complete without mention of the good men and women who have lost their livelihoods for standing up for what is right:

[Some people] are already being censured and others have lost their jobs because of their public commitment to marriage as the union of a man and a woman.

Of course, no one has lost their jobs because of their public commitment to heterosexual marriage; they have lost their jobs for refusing to abide by the laws of the land, which in most places now mandate recognition of civil gay marriages, which is a very different thing. But what does the truth matter? It's not like the bible has any mandate against lying, right? At least, not a mandate that's any more explicit and important than the nearly 20 passages about divorce?

Other than that one.


Carrie Underwood's Evangelical Megachurch GracePointe Comes Out for Marriage Equality: VIDEO

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GracePointe Church in Franklin, Tennessee has joined the small but growing number of evangelical megachurches that have come out in support of marriage equality, TIME reports.

The church's three year "listening process" on the issue began when country star Carrie Underwood, who attends GracePointe, spoke out in favor of marriage equality in 2012 - a move that led Westboro Baptist Church protesters to show up and picket outside GracePointe.  

via TIME:

For congregants on all sides of the debate, the conversation over the past three years has been at times painful, even devastating. For [pastor Stan] Mitchell, it has been a deeply personal as well as a spiritual journey, especially as he has seen it divide friends and family. And on Sunday, Jan. 11, the church reached a conclusion, as Mitchell shared:

Mitchell“Our position that these siblings of ours, other than heterosexual, our position that these our siblings cannot have the full privileges of membership, but only partial membership, has changed,” he said, as many in the congregation stood to their feet in applause, and other sat in silence. “Full privileges are extended now to you with the same expectations of faithfulness, sobriety, holiness, wholeness, fidelity, godliness, skill, and willingness. That is expected of all. Full membership means being able to serve in leadership and give all of your gifts and to receive all the sacraments; not only communion and baptism, but child dedication and marriage.” [...]

GracePointe’s move is not without concrete consequences. January giving usually is about $100,000–so far this month the church has brought in an estimated $52,000. When GracePointe began the listening process in 2012, Sunday attendance averaged 800-1000. The Sunday he preached the inclusion sermon, attendance was 673, and two weeks later, it was down to 482. “It’s a gut punch,” Mitchell says. “I know a year from now, I’m going to feel a whole lot better, but right now it is just hard.”

For now, spiritual and Biblical convictions are pushing GracePointe and its pastor forward. Pastors are coming to him quietly and undercover from all over town, he says, to talk with him about how to have this conversion in their own evangelical churches. And, while a three-year conversation is ending, another one is just beginning. “Could you be a church in Selma and not march, just handle your own community?” Mitchell asks. “I don’t think I can do that. We are on the front edge of a movement that means so much.”

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Meet the Robertsons: A Superclip of Pat and Phil's Anti-gay Insanity - VIDEO

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Televangelist Pat Robertson and Duck Dynasty patriarch Phil Robertson might not be blood relatives per se, but the two still share more than a few traits - not the least of which is an unabiding hatred for gay people.

To help sort through the many similarities, MSNBC's The Ed Show has put together a montage of some of the more outrageous 2014 moments in religious nuttery from the two Robertsons for your viewing pleasure.

Watch, AFTER THE JUMP...

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Bobby Jindal 'Prayer Guide' Blames Gays For Hurricane Katrina - VIDEO

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Louisiana Governor and anti-gay “Christian” nutjob Bobby Jindal is claiming in material for a prayer rally to kick off his possible presidential run that Hurricane Katrina and other natural disasters are the result of god’s anger at gay people, reports Right Wing Watch.

Last month, Jindal spoke at an anti-equality, "pro-family" event in Dallas. He has also given anti-gay Duck Dynasty star Phil Roberston an award for Entrepreneurial Excellence.

Jindal is set to kick off the potential presidential campaign in January with a stadium prayer rally organized by anti-gay groups and individuals including listed hate group the American Family Association.

It would appear that Jindal’s campaign is being closely modeled on Rick Perry’s disastrous 2012 run for president. Organizers are actually reusing material from Perry’s 2011 prayer rally in Texas that blame natural disasters on gay people, marriage equality, legal abortion and Internet pornography. 6a00d8341c730253ef01a511ba7967970c-800wi

The prayer guide for the rally also appears to be exactly the same as the guide distributed to participants in Perry’s 2011 event.  As Right Wing Watch points out, the materials have not “even been updated to include the increased number of states that are bringing God’s judgment on America by allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry.”

The prayer guide includes the following nuggets of “Christian” wisdom:

“We have watched sin escalate to a proportion the nation has never seen before. We live in the first generation in which the wholesale murder of infants through abortion is not only accepted but protected by law. Homosexuality has been embraced as an alternative lifestyle. Same-sex marriage is legal in six states and Washington, D.C. Pornography is available on demand through the internet.

“Biblical signs of apostasy are before our very eyes. While the United States still claims to be a nation 'under God' it is obvious that we have greatly strayed from our foundations in Christianity.

“This year we have seen a dramatic increase in tornadoes that have taken the lives of many and crippled entire cities, such as Tuscaloosa, AL & Joplin, MO. And let us not forget that we are only six years from the tragic events of hurricane Katrina, which rendered the entire Gulf Coast powerless.”

Watch Jindal speak at this year's anti-gayathon GOP-backed Values Voter Summit, AFTER THE JUMP...

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Bryan Fischer: Gay History Begins With Sodom And Gomorrah - VIDEO

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Bryan Fischer, the head of rabidly anti-gay listed hate group the American Family Association, has said that schools teaching gay history will need to start with Sodom and Gomorrah, reports Right Wing Watch.

Fischer was holding forth on his wingnut radio show yesterday on the “right” of a creationist theme park in Kentucky to refuse to hire gay people despite an application for federal funding.

He then confused history with fiction, bringing up a requirement in California that school districts include the contributions of LGBT people in their history curricula and demanding that any such lessons begin with Sodom and Gomorrah.

"Every public school in the state of California has got to indoctrinate, brainwash students in homosexuality.

"I will support you teaching homosexuality in California's public schools on the condition that you start with Sodom and Gomorrah. If you want to teach gay history in your public schools, then you've got to teach gay history. Gay history starts with Sodom and Gomorrah, so if you start there, you can teach all the gay history that you want.”

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Man Who Proclaimed 'I'm Not Gay No More' Gets A Funky Remix: VIDEO

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You may recall the story we brought you of an ex-gay man who proclaimed to his Missouri mega-church, "I'm not gay no more":

"I'm not gay no more. I am delivered! I don't like mens no more. I said I like women. Women women women women! I said women! I'm not gay! I would not date a man! I would not carry a purse! I would not put on make-up! I will, I will love a women."

Now, thanks to YouTube, what was once a sad statement on repression is now a funky tune. 

Check it out, AFTER THE JUMP...

[h/t Joe.My.God]

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