FRC's Tony Perkins Says Gays Want Marriage to Fill a Perpetual 'Emptiness Within Them': VIDEO

American Family Association's Tim Wildmon spoke with fellow hate group leader (and frequent MSNBC commentator) Tony Perkins about why gay people care about getting married, Right Wing Watch reports.

It's not to dignify their commitment and love for one another under the law, it's to fill the vacuum inside that comes from being a homosexual, Perkins explains.

Says Perkins: "Not every person that identifies as a homosexual or a lesbian is an activist trying to redefine the laws. I do think and many of those who have come out of the homosexual lifestyle will tell you this that they are looking for acceptance, there is an emptiness within them, they are looking for that acceptance and they think that if society will redefine the norms of behavior that will make them feel content, and it won’t because they are operating outside of nature and outside of God’s plan and design. It will be something else next; redefining marriage will not be the end of this. We’re already seeing this in California, SB 48, the measure that took effect this month, now all of the “positive” contributions of those in the GBT, gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender population have to be taught in the public schools, so it will be the indoctrination of our kids to teach them that homosexuality is normal."

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Watch: Liberty Counsel Wingnut Matt Barber and AFA's Tim Wildmon Discuss Favorite Topic — Military Men in Showers

Liberty Counsel wingnut homophobe Matt Barber appears on American Family Association radio with host Tim Wildmon to discuss their favorite topic: soldiers showering together.

Says Wildmon: "You don't put openly homosexuals with a bunch of straight guys, a bunch of red-blooded.... you don't do that, in the same way you wouldn't put a woman in a shower with a man in the military. There's sexual tension."

Barber responds, citing some bizarre statistic that 24% of soldiers would leave if DADT were lifted, says "socialist" Obama wants to create "a petri dish for radical San Francisco-style social experimentation."

Scaring conservatives with the "ick factor" of gay sex is really all these two have left.

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