08/16/2007
Towleroad Guide to the Tube #162
RUDY GIULIANI LOVES DRAG: This time he's in lion drag making some, uh, interesting comments about the work ethics of people on welfare. From the documentary Giuliani Time. (source: slog)
IRAQ ON VACATION: Sweating it out alone till September. (source: americablog)
CLAY AIKEN: Is trying to bring sexy back but not doing a very convincing job of it.
ALEXYSS TYLOR: She's back with a warning to gay boys (audio NSFW). (source: dlisted)
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OMG. Clay. That's tragic.
What's with the wrist on the side of his face. He looks more like he's crying than sexy.
Maybe if he'd actually embrace the gay community and get laid he might actually understand the lyrics. Cause there's nothing sexy about that.
Posted by: Ladd | Aug 16, 2007 5:31:32 PM
Who is this ALEXYSS chick? Is she a dyke with attitude? Or is she jealous because she can't get dick.. Whoever that big woman is, her eyes lit up when Alexyss said something about getting a krystal snack for sex... That big bitch is going to be sucking dick so she can get her krystal snack supsersized...
Posted by: Zazou | Aug 16, 2007 5:41:47 PM
LOL. Alexyss is hysterical the way she puts things, but we all now it is SO TRUE....how many times do you see these old old white guys chasing down these young boys (black and white) and will do just about anything for them (social security checks included! LOL).
It is kinda sad and tragic,....but so true! I live in New York and see it all the time....it is almost like you can't escape the tragedy of gay life...old men chasing young boys.....that woman is too funny.....
Posted by: Tragic But True | Aug 16, 2007 5:43:54 PM
is that really mr aiken? looks like a parody.
Posted by: petey | Aug 16, 2007 6:05:38 PM
Man. Ignorance is so fucking sad.
Posted by: Tread | Aug 16, 2007 6:27:52 PM
Clay makes drag queens look like butch football players.
Posted by: anon | Aug 16, 2007 6:44:30 PM
OMG! That Alexyss is an SNL skit waiting to happen!
Posted by: larry | Aug 16, 2007 7:56:17 PM
Wow, between THETRUTH, TRAGIC BUT TRUE and our dear friends Stephen's pronouncements about what is and what isn't TRUE Christianity, it seems that we've been beset with "Truthy-ist" (as Colbert would say) who think that simply by putting the word "true" or "truth" into their insane arguments it somehow makes them so.
The lesson here is, any time ANYONE tells you that they have THE truth, RUN! RUN as fast as you can because that person is most likely a fool.
Posted by: Zeke | Aug 16, 2007 8:13:44 PM
You see just as many old men chasing young girls... its not unique to the gay community. Just as many perverted dirty straight white men out there too.
Posted by: fanboi | Aug 16, 2007 9:30:49 PM
FANBOI, you hit the nail on the head...almost. There are older men of EVERY race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion and political affiliation who like younger sexual partners.
To act as if race and sexuality has anything to do with it is completely absurd.
Posted by: Zeke | Aug 16, 2007 9:43:48 PM
Hear, hear, Zeke! Well said.
Posted by: Johnny L. | Aug 16, 2007 11:43:53 PM
let's hear it for king kong dicks!
Posted by: ken | Aug 17, 2007 8:41:58 AM
Zeke: I think the issue is sexual racism - i.e. its socially acceptable for white guys chase people of various races (caucasian, african, asian, south asian), but not ok for non-white to chase after white people. This is especially pronounced for older vs. younger.
As a visible minority, I've noted that this is all too true. And no, I am no fool.
Posted by: Landis | Aug 17, 2007 8:49:46 AM
I've never heard of ALEXYSS TYLOR but I do know that was possibly the the most bizarre bunch of crap spewed forth by an individual ever! I assume this is some sort of cable access program, but the question is who in their right mind gives this kind of mindless rambling air time? I concede that she is right about the prey/predator relationship that exists between young & older men but if young black men are turning tricks for crack or krystal then they have bigger problems then getting their d**k sucked by an old guy. Maybe it's crazy bitchy black women that are driving their men to do such things...I know I would if I had to listen to her for any length of time
Posted by: AZMike | Aug 17, 2007 9:08:04 AM
...azmike, alexyss may not speak your "civilized tongue" with her entrenched southern Black drawl, (and BTW a krystal snack is the ATL's answer to a White Castle burger, FYI), but she is trying to reach a "crazy, bitchy" audience that you most likely don't know any of or care anything about understanding or empathtizing with...that she is so incrediblly and unintentionally hilarious and over the top to some of us while doing so is just an added bonus bonus....and an above poster is correct IMO...get Maya Rudolph some of Miss Tylor's clips immediately if not sooner...
Posted by: yeahisaidit | Aug 17, 2007 10:11:13 AM
Oh and p.s.:...isn't that the aim of so many white gay men? to act like sassy Black females...?
Posted by: yeahisaidit | Aug 17, 2007 10:15:08 AM
Landis, I agree with your statement about sexual racism but I disagree that it is THE (as in THE ONLY) issue here. It may be one of the issues that the woman was bringing up but that doesn't negate her raging and visible homophobia or the clear homophobia on display in the comment of TRAGIC "...it is almost like you can't escape the tragedy of gay life..." BUT TRUE above.
Posted by: Zeke | Aug 17, 2007 10:27:58 AM
FYI, you can't tell from that short clip, but Clay isn't being serious, it's a medley of "cool" songs he performs to illustrate how uncool and how unsexy he is, and it's meant to be funny and to give a change of pace from the ballads he sings during the rest of the concert.
Posted by: Kris | Aug 17, 2007 1:32:50 PM
Zeke,
The fact is that these men who go into poor communities preying on young boy for sex ARE sad...and yes, it is pretty common here in the urban areas. Unless you live an urban area, you don't have a clue what goes on here.
If the idea is we shouldn't talk about it because it makes gay men look bad, then save it....no amount of political correctness is worth allowing people to prey on others, drug addicts included.
I know it's easy to throw out statements about urban life from the safety of your tiny little town "where everybody knows your name" but my statements are based on life experiences and so are this woman's.
Sure, she didn't say it all "nice and tidy" but so what? Nobody has to say things all nice and pretty, come on, it's a cable access show.
As for the "homophobic" comments, I'm gay and quite happy to be so.....so whatever...
Posted by: Sad But True | Aug 17, 2007 5:33:55 PM
If your so happy to be gay then what did you mean when you said "...it is almost like you can't escape the tragedy of gay life..."?
How can anyone NOT be offended by that statement? Did you misspeak or did I misunderstand something?
And how do you presume to know that I live in a tiny town where everyone knows my name? I actually DO live in an urban area.
I've got a newsflash for ya sweetheart, you're not the only one here with "life experiences" so get over yourself. Kay?
Posted by: Zeke | Aug 17, 2007 7:50:56 PM
Save your newsflashs "sweetheart" (gee, another gay man who defaults to feminine attitude), because I'm not interested in your life, actually. If all you took away from the discussion was that statement and how "offended" you were, then this is just a waste of time. Clearly, YOU need to get over yourself. Trust me, I have.
The exploitation of young boys of color and yet all you think about are you "feelings". unbelievable.
Posted by: Sad But True | Aug 17, 2007 8:24:34 PM
This vagina power chick is being serious?! HOLY shit, I thought she was a trannie!
Posted by: Jordan | Aug 18, 2007 1:31:31 AM
Don't dare lecture me about the plight of inner city youth of color.
Since you are so full of bogus assumptions as to why this woman's rant offended me let me tell you the ACTUAL reason why I took personal offense to both it and you.
People at this site who know me personally have know this for a long time.
I have been mentoring two African-American brothers as their Big Brother for almost 6 years. They have become a part of my family; so much so that my son tells everyone that they are his brothers. When I became their mentor they were EXACTLY the vulnerable and "exploited young boys of color" that you claim I could care less about. I have been able to affect great change in their young lives by instilling hope and pride in them simply by spending time with them, loving them and not allowing them to be bogged down by other people's (including people from their own community's) low expectations.
Other than coming to blogs like this and bitching and moaning about the plight of boys of color what do YOU actually DO Mr. True?
If more upstanding African-American men, such as yourself, were DOING more and bitching less then youth of color would be much less vulnerable to predatory men (of ANY color) and "selfish", "clueless", gay white men like me wouldn't have to come down from "the safety of our tiny little towns" to fill the void created by their absence (as Fathers AND mentors).
Instead of mischaracterizing me and attacking me based on your ignorance of who I am, what I think and what I stand for, how about going down to your local Big Brothers Big Sisters and signing up to be a mentor. I guarantee you they will be thrilled to see you. They DESPARATELY need more African-American men to mentor African-American boys. Sadly, although there is no shortage of people like you who bitch and moan about the plight of children of color, there certainly is a shortage of people like you who actually put their words and concerns into actions.
How's THAT for SAD BUT TRUE?
Posted by: Zeke | Aug 18, 2007 9:54:26 AM
Oh, and one more little tid bit of TRUTH for ya Mr. True...
When you get down to your local BBBS organization ask them to give you the statistics on who it REALLY is that is most likely to sexually abuse or exploit BOYS and GIRLS of color.
You might be surprised with the answer you get.
My little brothers were sexually abused and exploited but not by a person of another race.
Perhaps you only see sexual exploitation of children as a problem when it crosses lines of race.
Posted by: Zeke | Aug 18, 2007 10:06:09 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this AIN'T ABOUT YOU'...I'm sure you take great pride is telling the world how you have saved these two poor black children and how wonderful you are, blah blah...well congratulations, Zeke, we all want to be just like you.....
the fact remains that the ACTUAL point of this thread was the plight of inner city young boys who are victimized by gay white men who go into those neighborhoods and sexual exploit them. That is what the woman was talking about. period.
your rant about how wonderful you are and all that you've done to save black people does not change what she or I was talking about.
I suspect you just don't like to deal with the fact that so many gay white men sexually exploit minority children and that we must somehow not talk about it, because, after all we have so many other gay white men who are "saving us from ourselves" (that is the point you were suggesting by trying to imply blacks people victimize black children more than gay white men right?).
Your tirade did not offer any insight into the problem she was addressing..you just made it about you. again. Whether I am mentoring children or not does not mean that gay men are not going into these neigborhoods. You just don't want to talk about that, because it makes gay white men look bad, so you decided to showcase yourself instead. How many gay men do you mentor, because after all, they are the ones we're talking about. Or is it just easier to "save black people" so you can pat yourself on the back?
Posted by: Sad But True | Aug 18, 2007 12:52:24 PM
Ha! That was exactly the response I expected. It’s much easier to attack and demean and question the motives of someone who actually does something than it is for you to make the sacrifices and put the work into DOING something yourself.
As for you? You’re still bitching, whining and moaning but STILL no word about what you're DOING. I’m sure there’s a real good reason why you don’t talk about what your DOING; because there’s NOTHING to talk about.
You’re really pathetic Mr. True. I'm actually glad that you don't mentor kids of ANY color. You would probably do more damage than good. You're way too angry, way too bitter and way too whiney and bitchy to be around ANYONE'S children.
Rant away all you want. I won't be back to this thread to read it. I’ve wasted way too much time arguing with a fool already.
Take care.
Posted by: Zeke | Aug 19, 2007 12:46:51 AM
I didn't think you would actually address the problem...I see I was correct.
Posted by: Sad But True | Aug 19, 2007 7:29:48 PM