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'New York Times' Says Anti-Gay Activists Need To Wake Up

MarriageposterReflecting on Tuesday night's big marriage equality wins, the New York Times editorial board today published a piece that sums up what these wins mean: the right can't act like there's some out-of-touch gay agenda trying to pull one over on the general public.

In a move that shows the shift in public opinion, voters in Maine and Maryland approved measures giving gay and lesbian couples the freedom to marry by decisive results. Early returns in Washington State also show that voters there have passed a same-sex marriage initiative. With these victories, opponents will no longer be able to argue that the movement for marriage equality is something imposed by radical judges and legislators, who are out of touch with the popular will.

There is still much work to do to secure the freedom to marry in every jurisdiction and end the odious Defense of Marriage Act that bars federal recognition of same-sex marriages performed in places where it is legal. It is a moment for the opponents of civil rights for all Americans — including Congressional Republicans, who are still defending the marriage act in court — to decide whether they want to continue to stand against justice to court a dwindling share of voters.

But according to Ari Fleischer, former press secretary under George W. Bush, the GOP is going to keep up its anti-gay platform.

"You're not going to make the party pro-choice and pro-gay rights and think you've made the Republican party the party that's the popular party. We have a party like that. It's the Democratic Party," he said during his post-election analysis.

You can watch video of that remark AFTER THE JUMP.

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  1. I think parties design their positions for the purpose of catering to whatever the other party is not catering to.

    Posted by: jason | Nov 8, 2012 8:32:37 AM


  2. Nobody in their right mind reads or pays any attention to what the NYT says! If you voted for Obama, you will soon get exactly what you deserve! The interest on the debt will be $1 trillion a year which is 1/3 of market interest rates! As the USD is downgraded, interest rates will rise. Taxes will continue to rise and entitlement payments will drop through the floor. Get ready because it is coming. Obama will not be satisfied until we are paying $12 a gallon for gas like they do in EU and AU. You will be walking or riding public transit if they have the money to buy fuel. It's all downhill from here thanks to the idiots who voted for Obama.

    Posted by: Johnny | Nov 8, 2012 8:39:28 AM


  3. Hey Johnny, it must be difficult to be filled with so much hate. Relax, deep breaths, calming music, glass of wine, read a book... take a vacation. Enjoy life. Try not to create light where there is no darkness. You'll see, the drama in your life will begin to fade and you'll be a better person for it. Happier, albeit, more pleasant to be around.

    But thanks for stopping by and leaving a message, we appreciate the time you took to help us realize the world is still turning and full of diverse people - and we love that.

    Posted by: JNJ | Nov 8, 2012 8:51:24 AM


  4. Johnny, the reality is that Bush bankrupted the country with a war we couldn't afford, while simultaneously de-regulating Wall Street, turning it into a kleptocracy of credit default swaps and mortgage backed insecurities. Obama can now do what Clinton did, which is to balance the budget.

    Gay republicans all talk like you- all emotion, no facts, no real thought. Lots of team spirit and bitter, empty platitudes. You are right on one thing, though, we WILL get what we deserve and it's about time. Rationality won.

    Posted by: Rob | Nov 8, 2012 8:53:24 AM


  5. I am not even going to dignify the above comment with a response other than to say that conservatives say that stuff every time they lose.

    As for the GOP and Ari Fleischer, if they think doggedly being on the wrong side of history by courting an ever shrinking group of people and think they will win elections, they are delusional. People voted and showed what they wanted, and it is not to continue making groups unlike themselves second class citizens.

    Posted by: BrandonJD | Nov 8, 2012 8:54:23 AM


  6. Ha! Good one, Ari. You don't want to be the popular party. Isn't that the goal of most elections??

    Posted by: Dave | Nov 8, 2012 9:39:46 AM


  7. What if JOHNNY'S right? If we stop being homosexuals will it help?

    Posted by: UFFDA | Nov 8, 2012 10:09:16 AM


  8. Johnny must be one of those masochistic powerbottoms for Romney.

    Posted by: Sam | Nov 8, 2012 10:18:44 AM


  9. The gay electorate is 5% according to survey. It may have far more impact than racial groups since members of a racial group tend to be related within itself. For a gay voter, he may influence his or her family and friends like threatening to defriend them. The Democrats don't have this problem. On the other hand, the GOP has to choose between the gays and those in the religious right.

    Posted by: simon | Nov 8, 2012 10:25:26 AM


  10. Maybe I am simple minded. But it seems to me that because the truly wealthy are only 1 % they really need the world is 5,000 years old literal interpreters of the King James Bible "Values Voters" to try and stay in power. Just like in middle ages Europe were the Ruling family and the Catholic Church were in league with each other to keep in power.

    Posted by: Tom in long beach | Nov 8, 2012 10:42:51 AM


  11. Hey Johnny, you really shouldn't be wasting your time here providing evidence of your ignorance to a bunch of strangers. If you want to have any hope of winning another election you should be home trying to make more white people....

    Posted by: Michaelandfred | Nov 8, 2012 10:46:12 AM


  12. Yes Johnny, because people like you are the only REAL Americans, right? You DO know what an election is, don't you? It's when the MAJORITY of people who vote WIN. American people just like you. The Republican party LOST and it's their own fault. So get over it.

    Is your picture on this Tumblr blog?

    http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/

    Because it sounds like it should be.

    Posted by: Caliban | Nov 8, 2012 12:23:46 PM


  13. old white people haven't been this angry since they cancelled MASH

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Nov 8, 2012 12:48:59 PM


  14. the GOP will continue to run anti-gay and anti-choice campaigns because, simply put, it's the only way to get the votes of their base who will in no way benefit from the GOP's fiscal and economic policies.
    every country around the world that wants to screw over the middle and working class does so by pandering to meaningless and indefensible "religious beliefs" on social issues.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Nov 8, 2012 1:09:41 PM


  15. Ari, the sad thing is that being pro-choice and pro gay marraige are actually conservative, small government positions. The problem is that the GOP isn't truly conservative in the political sense any more. You've been hijacked by a bunch of social and religious radicals. That's going to be an ever-shrinking coalition that will eventually become irrelevant.

    Posted by: e.c. | Nov 8, 2012 2:10:57 PM


  16. Well, Ari, then I guess you shouldn't quit your day job (lord knows what that is) because your party has been officially delegated to minority status and after 2014 mid-terms, when the Dems retake the House, I imagine the GOP will be tossed into the dustbin of history.

    Good riddance.

    Posted by: jamal49 | Nov 8, 2012 2:49:56 PM


  17. I don't want the Republican Party to change. I want them to remain the party of anti-gay and anti women policies of hate. If they change they will be harder to beat. I want to keep them out of power for YEARS to come.

    Let's start an online petition to tell them NOT to change - it will work in our favor !

    Posted by: Icebloo | Nov 8, 2012 3:52:52 PM


  18. The republican pundits on CNN just don't get it at all. In fact, while all of them preach about courting the Latino vote, they keep falsely spreading this meme that "with latinos, our conservative views on social issues should become even MORE conservative" Ari Fletcher in other interviews with CNN completely dismissed LGBT, and said that with Latino support, LGBT causes need to be supported less not more, because according to him, Latinos are not in favor of gay rights at all. It was SOOOO frustrating hearing hims ay this and no one challenge him on it. FIVE recent and prominent polls (La Raza, People Latino, ABC, Pews) all indicate that support from latinos for gay marriage is higher than any other demographic. We need to get that message out there so the conservatives don't keep spreading lies about how they have the latinos in the bag on social issues. Not true!

    Posted by: Tim Leaner | Nov 8, 2012 5:56:06 PM


  19. it's discouraging that in this day when all these gay elected foccials and ballots won, republicans are saying they will reach out to latino votes as a result of bonding over hating gays. i sure hope thats not the case with latinos. maybe our side needs to get latinos on our side more via outreach before republicans get their hands on them

    Posted by: CJ | Nov 8, 2012 6:00:00 PM


  20. Why would you go on a gay website and then speak against the person who has done more for the recognition of gays and lesbians unless you have a problem.

    What type of person is this? This is the same mentality as those who follow Fred Phelps. These people can not be helped because they are bitter and angry with themselves. Most likely someone who was made fun of all of their lives. So they come to our website to write something to make themselves feel better about themselves. I bet she has a small one.

    Posted by: Matt E. Padd | Nov 8, 2012 6:27:02 PM


  21. maryland and maine just two more reasun to boycott travel to new jersey for gay tourists.Maryland new york and mabbachussetts have great beaches> Connecticut has gambling. The mountains are better in Maune New Hampshire Vermont and New York. nightlife is better in new york.there really is noreason for the gay tourist dollar to visit new jersey.boycott new jersy tourism1

    Posted by: walter | Nov 8, 2012 6:50:36 PM


  22. I am an old white guy who voted for Obama and couldn't be happier. Knock off the simplistic stereotypes, kiwi.

    Posted by: andrew | Nov 8, 2012 7:20:00 PM


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