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  1. Mike says

    Ha. And the expected low back from a Christian right will be ineffectual as well as it should be .

  2. MaryM says

    ‘God’sounds like an utter @$$hole.

    People who believe in ‘god’ really seem to be defined by their hatred and bigotry.

    Atheism is increasing massively thanks to the sheer evil of religion.

  3. JT says

    Congratulations to all who were married by Mayor Cory Booker in the Great State of New Jersey! I believe there were 7 couples married right after midnight; gay, lesbian and straight. Congratulations to Mr. Booker who hadn’t married ANYONE since he became mayor because of his conviction to marry no one until marriage was equal for everyone. Congratulations to all who have been married in our state this 21st day of October, 2013!
    Our marriages are equal. We are equal!

  4. MaryM says

    Jack M – there is no ‘god’.

    Belief in ‘god’ is a lifestyle choice.

    Nothing more.

    Religious people are being wilfully ignorant.

  5. revchicoucc says

    Asking at the ceremony if there is any one present who knows of a reason why two people should not be married is archaic. It derives from a time when public records were scant and virginity was expected. I do not ask this question weddings I conduct. I do ask the couple before the wedding, when I visit with them. This question should not be asked at the ceremony.

  6. Hyde says

    Actually Jack M, gods are created to control and suppress people for those that are in power at the time, and created so the weak will not be so scared. Gods don’t exist and the reasons you think your god exists over all the many other gods is pure delusion.

    I’d love the Viking religion, Buddhism, Hindu, Shinto, Lovecraft mythology, and Taoism to exist, but in reality they don’t.

  7. johnny says

    @revchicoucc,

    That line is usually not quoted in many marriage ceremonies these days, I’m very surprised that was used especially in such a potentially contentious situation as this one.

  8. Derrick from Philly says

    Oh, please. Atheists aint no better than believers. Many come across as arrogant and pompous. They’ve just never been in a position to kill those who do believe. They would if they could.

  9. plinx says

    Whether you believe in a god or not, it’s important that citizens understand that their religious views are subordinate to the civil rights of others.

  10. jenny 0 says

    Killing people ‘who believe’ is not in my Gay-Atheist agenda booklett, Derrick.

    Would you mind pointing out what page and paragraph?

    we’ll all wait for your links.

    Oh, Wait!

    It’s ‘them religious folks’ who all have books from their ‘gods’ that tell their believers to kill non-believers.

    So, “Derrick=Moron” is the Atheist Motto-of-the-day.

  11. Derrick from Philly says

    @ “Whether you believe in a god or not, it’s important that citizens understand that their religious views are subordinate to the civil rights of others.”

    Absolutely, PHLINX. And there are many folks of faith who are not religious fanatics forcing their views on other citizens.

    Yes, there has been inhumane damage done by “religious” folks, but blanket negative beliefs about any group are too easy…unless it’s a hate group or NAMBLA or some such nonsense.

  12. Derrick from Philly says

    JENNY O,

    you pretentious b.tch. Your f.cking arrogance tells me what kind of thoughtless sh.t you are capable of.

    How many Gay people of faith come on this blog to insult and question the intelligence of those of you who are atheist?

    “JENNY O = Lying B.tch” should be every reasonable person’s motto of the day.

  13. NotSafeForWork says

    I support Cory, but unfortunately, the so called “Christian Right” will use that statement against him. I can just see it on the bumper stickers and the campaign ads now.

  14. Derrick from Philly says

    Hey JENNY,

    read this discussion so far. Who said something negative to a commentator first? JACK M made a simple statement about his faith that shouldn’t have offended anyone. He was met with an insult and called “ignorant”.

    Now, if you want to trade name-calling insults on this blog, and if Andy Towle allows it…you picked the right faggot today, faggot.

  15. MaryM says

    Religion is a force for enormous evil and bigotry – unlike atheism.

    Religion is a disgusting lifestyle choice.

  16. oncemorewithfeeling says

    Of course there are no gods and this is what comes from being indoctrinated into believing that there are. They behave like petulant children when you deny their superstition. Time to grow up and leave the nasty fairy tales behind.

    Free yourself from religion and you free yourself from hate.

  17. BROOKE CERDA says

    So happy to see justice served, now tha the Gay community is much closer to EQUALITY, DON’T FORGET ABOUT THE “T ” , NO I don’t mean Crystal Meth < I mean you TRASGENDER SISTERS, specially TRANSGENDER WOMEN OF COLOR, BECAUSE LIFE EXPENTANCY FOR TWoC IS ONLY 25 YEARS’ AS YOU CAN SEE IT IS A HUGE DISPARITY. SO, KEEP THEM IN MIND. Yours truly Brooke

  18. Howard says

    From one happy newlywed in California to all the others in New Jersey, CONGRATULATIONS and welcome to the club.

    To all the rest of you who want to highjack this thread to argue about God, GET A LIFE.

  19. tinkerbelle says

    Gee Derrick, you sure took a fast leap to the hot seat, slow down. I’m an atheist too (well, kind of between agnostic and atheist), but that said, I don’t spend much time thinking about it, or God or whatever. It sort of gives me time to do other things. I don’t think it makes me any worse or any better than anyone else. But I guess I’m one of the “good” atheists in your book, as I don’t begrudge other people their beliefs, except when certain types insist that their way is the best way, yadda yadda, and use this exploitively. I’ve personally never known an atheist to go on the warpath to convert others to his or her absence of faith in organized religion. Or is this a new thing?

  20. Chuck Mielke says

    @ MaryM: While I won’t defend religion or the religious, I think it’s appropriate to point out that religious choice is never as easy as it may seem. There exists no demonstration that religion, unlike sexual orientation or race, springs from genetic roots. Nevertheless, social pressures and family heritage can make it very difficult to change or drop religious beliefs, commitments, or affiliations. Further, there are non-rational, “common sense reasons” to adopt or continue religious behaviors and beliefs. As a younger person, I was strongly influenced by a very intellectual and scientifically oriented person who, years later, effectively ended our relationship when he claimed to “realize that God has a plan for our lives.” The fellow was a professional academic who should have been aware of the mental traps and tricks used by the purveyors of religious nonsense.

  21. Daniel says

    @TINKERBELLE–Derrick, unfortunately, makes a good point. I’m in a university town and work in academia, and the negativity directed at me by those who identify as atheist/agnostic/secular humanist and other varieties of non-theist has surprised me. I don’t bring my religion to the workplace or even wear it on my sleeve. I just try to be a good person, which I think is something most people try to do regardless of their views about G/god(s).

    @JENNY–Surely you realize that the Bible can be read, more easily I might add, as a document that doesn’t endorse killing non-believers. The minority who adhere to fundamentalism in any of the theistic religions have given religion a bad name. But a lot of people also get motivated through a relationship with faith to be better people. Really we’re all agnostic–none of us has evidence that a god/God(s) or other divine whatever exist(s), or what he/she/it/they are like. That includes you. Everything else is a matter of faith, including atheism.

  22. anon says

    Does this guy show up at every wedding he thinks is “unlawful in the eyes of God” or just gay marriages with press there?

  23. Terry says

    I still haven’t heard of gays or atheists hunting down, beating and killing straights or believers. And yet we are the bad guys?

  24. Derrick from Philly says

    @ “Gee Derrick, you sure took a fast leap to the hot seat, slow down.”

    LOL. Sorry, TINKERBELLE, it’s called Monday Morning Withdrawal (that’s why I’ve never had a man for more than one night).

    But it’s funny how these little temper tandroms on Towleroad can lead me to do a little amature research on the internet.

    I, of course, looked to see what AVOWED atheists in history have committed atrocities. I basically came up with the “regular” two: Josef Stalin and Pol Pot (Pot was a Buddhist, but I understand one can an atheist, Buddhist and butcher at the same time).

    MOre importantly my amature research today led me to Elie Wiesel and his book “Night”.
    It’s about how Elie (or the character based on him) was a strong believer as a child. But his experiences in the Holocaust made him a non-believer. I don’t know whether Mr Wiesel ever became a believer again.

    There are many Gay people who believe in one of the major religions, or simply believe that there is some higher power that exists. Many know that they have NO proof–they understand that their belief is through faith. To tell them that they are “ignorant” is being intolerant.

    I don’t like intolerance whether it comes from a Christian, a Muslim, a Hindu or atheists on Towleroad.

    Hell, I even believe that there are good Republicans…some where in Maine, I guess.

  25. David says

    I don’t know why CB even asked that question. I wouldn’t want anyone asking it at my wedding.

  26. Bill says

    @David: it’s a standard question. The intention was to give someone a chance to say, “Hey, So-and-so is already married to someone in a different town.” They don’t want someone purposely waiting out of spite to bring it up after the ceremony is finished.

  27. Profe Sancho Panza says

    Okay, maybe I’m cynical, but that question is so archaic and Booker’s answer was so sharp and quick, that I’m tempted to wonder if Booker didn’t include the question precisely to provoke some heckler – which allowed him to throw down his zinger for the cameras.