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  1. David From Canada says

    History is being made – 2 men kissing and having sex in an American movie. It’s history period, and another nail in the coffin of homophobia.

  2. simon says

    Queer as folks also had very graphic sex scenes. Of course it was a TV series not a TV movie. I remember even the HBO movie “Angels in America” had a cruising scene which depicts the two leads having anal intercourse which must be quite shocking to a lot of people.

  3. Charles says

    The idea that professional actors are still ‘terrified’ of this but will face a scene of heterosexual rape, torture or murder calmly is, quite frankly, a disgusting indictment of our entire culture.

  4. David From Canada says

    @Charles: In the movie “Death Trap” from the 1980’s, Christopher Reeve and Michael Caine share a quick man-on-man kiss on the lips. Caine stated that they were both so nervous that he had to drink quite a bit(alcohol)before they did the scene. Males and homophobia – a kiss!!!!!!!!

  5. Hansel Currywurst says

    I’m left wondering if I’m qualified to be a sex choreographer or if I need one. I suppose if you have to ask then the answer is obvious.

  6. petey says

    Oh my, the sex scene must have been terrifying for Matt Bomer. Yes, terrifying. Faking it must have been so terrifying. Call the cops – Ryan Murphy is traumatized about terrifying fake sex between men.

  7. DavidR says

    Not to doubt Ruffalo’s ally status, but um, his serious f*&k scene in The Kids Are Alright was pretty intense.

    I just wish I were in between Ruffalo and Bomer helping them out.

  8. petey says

    Craig,

    Ryan Murphy is recycling cliches from the 1980’s to somehow convince us that The Normal Heart is terribly important.

  9. Socrates says

    The night I saw Deathtrap in the movies, when Caine & Reeve kissed, a woman in the back shouted “Oh my God, not Superman!” At least Christopher Reeve wasn’t afraid to shatter stereotypes.

  10. Socrates says

    The night I saw Deathtrap in the movies, when Caine & Reeve kissed, a woman in the back shouted “Oh my God, not Superman!” At least Christopher Reeve wasn’t afraid to shatter stereotypes.

  11. Dback says

    Ryan Murphy deserves a medal just for navigating the choppy waters in dealing with Larry Kramer–or maybe sainthood. (Kramer is a brilliant talent, a giant in gay history, and a major figure in the battle against AIDS and homophobia; he’s also spiteful, bile-filled, a rage-aholic, intolerant, and accuses everyone who disagrees with him of being anti-Semitic. It’s a miracle Murphy finally got a script and a movie that made Kramer remotely happy.)

  12. iban4yesu says

    I am beyond outraged that that Prostitute/Pretty Woman is single handedly ruining the movie for me!

  13. ironic serendipity says

    Am I a bad gay for not wanting to really see another film about HIV in the 80s? There have already been many. I’m sure it’s well done and groundbreaking in many ways, but I’d much rather see something contemporary because there is so much social change happening now.

  14. steve says

    @Ironic Serendipity – I do get sick of all the attention HIV gets in the gay community sometimes…I’d like to see mental health issues be addressed as well, and substance abuse. Those are also rampant problems… I doubt you’re going to see fundraising dinners for mental health issues…but AIDS Benefits are very in vogue. Mental health, at least my vantage point, seems to be more stigmatized in the gay community than HIV.

  15. steve says

    @Ironic Serendipity – I do get sick of all the attention HIV gets in the gay community sometimes…I’d like to see mental health issues be addressed as well, and substance abuse. Those are also rampant problems… I doubt you’re going to see fundraising dinners for mental health issues…but AIDS Benefits are very in vogue. Mental health, at least my vantage point, seems to be more stigmatized in the gay community than HIV.

  16. iban4yesu says

    It’s all in the AIDS industry’s agenda…. They just need to have the cash keep flowing in. Therefore, you are again expected to reach for hankies (no, not the oh-so-retro “codes” but as in “a three hanky weeper”!) and while you are doing it, hopefully you might as well reach for your checkbook, too.

  17. Mikey says

    Wow! The bitterness and spite in some of the comments above is absolutely shocking.

    With “friends” like these, who needs enemies.

  18. Andrew says

    I agree with Mikey. A lot of gay bitterness and spite here. With “friends” like these commenters who needs enemies.

    By the way, Matt Bomer and hubby sat near me at the May 9 performance of Hedwig and both looked mighty fine indeed.

  19. V-8 says

    Whatever the outcome, I sure hope they tongue kiss for once… I’m so sick and tired of two guys kissing in movies with on tongue action… or the terrible ones in porn……

  20. Markt says

    I think it’s great that people say what they really feel in these comments. It’s helpful to me to examine their point-of-view even when they anger me. Steve’s comment in particular gave me something to think about. I don’t think the comments here are part of the problem. A failure to ultimately move toward a positive outcome after expressing one’s feelings is what we need to worry about.

  21. says

    As far as the “historic” label being applied to “The Normal Heart” let us not forget about the 1982 film “Making Love.”

  22. ironic serendipity says

    It’s interesting that expressing any other sentiment about his film other than absolute and breathless anticipation is called ‘bitterness’. It’s yet another film about HIV and gay men set in NYC, how truly original is that? Longtime Companion (1989), Love, Valour, Compassion (1997), Angels in American (film adaptation 2003) and many others. Even the premise for Dallas Buyers Club was far more interesting and unique in term of films about HIV. Is the value of this film really about having two gay guys having sex in a mainstream film? Is that all? That’s tragic.

    What I’m desperately craving are films set in random places across the US (besides NYC, LA and SF) relating to everyday contemporary issues that LGBT people face today. The lesbian couple in Omaha who want a marriage license; or the gay teen in Memphis facing bullying at high school; or what it’s like for rural gays to find love in North Dakota.

  23. Gary says

    I can only assume that the people who are complaining about the attention that is given to HIV/AIDS in the gay community do not know anyone how is living with HIV, or has died from AIDS. If you do and still feel this way, you’re a pretty damn poor excuse for a friend/loved one.

  24. steve says

    History was made about two men in bed long before this movie. MAKING LOVE, 1982.

  25. JDH says

    I was born in 1984 in Oklahoma and came out in 2001. If my life was ever impacted by AIDS, it was without me ever knowing. I like movies like this because they give me a profound sense of gratitude and perspective. Oklahoma has not been easy, but I’m alive to tell the story.

    Without all those allegedly money-grubbing, attention-whoring HIV activists described in comments above, I may have been dead by now from my own youthful poor judgment. So I don’t think it’s an outsized issue.

    And wasn’t Murphy saying that sex on camera is often terrifying for actors? I have read far too many interviews of actors over the years talking about their awkward, miserable sex scenes to think he was talking only about gay scenes.

  26. says

    Have you guys even considered that they haven’t had intense sex scenes at all in their careers?! I think that’s what was meant. If they were homophobes (and I’m not sure how you fit Matt Bomber of all people into that), then why would they be so excited about the movie?!

  27. Kim says

    ITA Taraji P Henson just mentioned Tyrese was terrified doing his first sex scene.I have read hundreds of interviews of actors and actresses staying they were terrified, sick,nervous filming their first sex scene

  28. Dback says

    Serendipity, try to track down “Big Eden” “World and Time Enough” or “Pit Stop”-those are three lovely gay male romances that are not set in the usual gay urban milieus. I know other people can suggest others.

  29. Gary Bebout says

    IronicSerend: I have seen all of these films. This one seems to be overshadowed as another notch in Murphy’s belt. Larry Kramer is to be commended. Why did they require a “sex choreographer?” Couldn’t they pull someone out of the pool? Cryptic messages about poor excuses for a friend/loved one are BS.

  30. GEB says

    “Making Love” was the groundbreaker. “Boys In The Band” was a history lesson. “Brokeback Mountain” was poetic.

  31. iban4yesu says

    Hey young man, do not mix up “activists” with words like”money grubbing”!

    BTW, here this one might be a film which might balance this issue out for now:

    http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/aids-inc/

    AIDS, Inc. is a film about the multi-billion dollar AIDS industry, and how it profits from continuing fears and misconceptions about the disease. While AIDS grabs the headlines and raises billions of dollars with celebrity endorsements and billionaire endowments, we are no closer to finding a cure than when the scourge first appeared 30 years ago.
    Could it be that after so many years of research, and so much money being spent, that the entire orthodox medical establishment has been wrong about AIDS, or even worse, has sought to profit on a system that it knew was flawed from the beginning? Doctor Robert Gallo who discovered the HIV virus said that there is no legitimate dissent when it comes to AIDS.
    But there are more than 5,000 physicians, microbiologists, journalists and activists who disagree and say that we have been misled about the real causes of AIDS and the nature of its treatment. The mainstream media has chosen not to provide an outlet for their opinions.
    In this important film, documentary filmmaker and health expert Gary Null, traveled to more than 30 countries over an eight year period to seek them out and get their interviews. This is the first film on AIDS that brings the most compelling of their arguments together in one place. Dr. Null blows the lid off the wealthy AIDS industry and shows how greed and corruption have prevented any real progress in fighting the epidemic or its underlying causes.
    The film challenges the entrenched notion that AIDS or HIV is an African monkey virus that is spread sexually and can be “treated” with harmful drugs. Instead, the film considers the common underlying conditions of the epidemic, such as malnutrition, unclean water, poverty, illness, and poor lifestyle choices. The evidence is damning, and a clarion call to the public that the AIDS Industrial Complex is on the wrong track and has become a spending juggernaut completely out of control.