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Towleroad Guide to the Tube #170

KEITH OLBERMANN: His special comment on 9/11 and Bush's promotions for those who sell the lies.

JAKE SHEARS: The charming Scissor Sisters frontman has a chat with vlogger Curt.

BRITNEY BOMB: Carson Daly reacts to the VMA performance of "Gimme More".

THE CAFFERTY FILE: What does it mean if most Americans believe the Constitution establishes a Christian nation?

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  1. I do NOT understand the fascination with Jake Shears. I think he's completely average looking and his falsetto is like nails on a chalkboard. I know everyone here LOVES the Scissor Sisters, but I think their music is pure crap.

    Posted by: peterparker | Sep 13, 2007 11:59:40 AM

  2. I hate the Miss Spears but Carson is a cock smooch.

    Posted by: Blair | Sep 13, 2007 12:03:10 PM

  3. Interesting Cafferty commentary. The biggest falacy in this country is the "founded on Christianity" notion.

    We are a country founded on extermination and exploitation. Early Americans exterminated the native people, and enslaved the Africans. That is our true foundation. Ain't we proud!

    Posted by: dc-20008 | Sep 13, 2007 12:10:13 PM

  4. I adore the Cafferty File, its simply divine my dears. This one peed big time. Yes it's no news to us that most Americans are stupid, don't read, and don't know anything about our history, and, as one viewer put it, get their news from Dial-A-Prayer or Pat Robertson. Looks like the Jesus Reich is coming folks, hold on to your rosary beads. It's going to be a tough fight.

    Posted by: the queen | Sep 13, 2007 12:11:50 PM

  5. Re: Cafferty; It means that the Christianists are winning with their propaganda stating that the US is a Christian nation due to the Constitution.

    You know, Christianists are always complaining about how they're being persecuted because people look down on their backward, unprogressive stances on issues. I think it's high time we really started doing what they claim we're doing already.

    Posted by: Tread | Sep 13, 2007 12:13:14 PM

  6. Remember and repeat

    Treaty of Tripoli 1797

    Read in its entirety and accepted without 1 dissenting vote by the entire USA senate

    Article 11
    As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion

    Signed into law by president Adams. Signed treatys are legaly binding and automaticaly enforced from that moment on. FULL US senate approval and signed by the president of the USA in its infancy 1797

    Posted by: jimmyboyo | Sep 13, 2007 1:43:06 PM

  7. The distinction is between de facto and de jure. Likewise, there is no religious test for office, but for the longest time no Catholic could be elected president (Kennedy being the first and only). Further, Christians are hardly in agreement on doctrine, so any extremist policy will be hard to implement.

    Posted by: anon (gmail.com) | Sep 13, 2007 2:58:00 PM

  8. I just realized this is a great moment to pimp for the PFAW

    People for the American Way

    Founded By Norman Learway back when and great advocates of seperation between church and state. If the fear of a religous take over of america is bothering you then pop on over to the PFAW web site and donate!!!



    Posted by: jimmyboyo | Sep 13, 2007 3:19:29 PM

  9. I used to have a bit of a crush on Carson Daly back in the day. A large part of it was that he seemed like a confident and positive guy who was able bring the best out of his guests. There was something a bit sexy about his demeanor. His late night show is a wreck, though. Since his early TRL days, he's become a bit mean spirited. He showed a lot of potential back then, but whatever spark I had for him is gone.

    Posted by: Steve G | Sep 13, 2007 3:50:47 PM

  10. Jake is ok....not a bad looking guy, talented. The SS are very popular in the UK. I like some of their stuff, if I'm in a club with 400 raucous fairys and on my 5th pint and second joint.

    DC20008....we weren't founded on any such thing. Our laws and basic moral outlook at the time were Judeo-Christian. The founding fathers were very careful to not allow the church to be involved in the goverment because we mostly at the time came from a country that had the National church embeded in the framework of goverment. We didn't enslave the Africans, but we allowed them to be bought and sold here....they were enslaved long before they reached our shores, mostly by their own tribes or race.

    The exploitation came later and Americans took to it quite easily.

    Posted by: Joshua | Sep 13, 2007 5:50:50 PM

  11. Actualy joshua our laws were based on pagan greco roman governing system (thanks to the remergence fo classicalism via the age of enlightenment) and Brittish common law which predates xtianity in the brittish isles by a couple hundred years.

    On slavery, actualy it was the invading Muslims that sold african slaves to european christians on the western coast of africa. the muslims swept into northern africa and down the west coast where european christians would land in their ships and purchase african slaves.

    The irony is that african americans by and large are 1 or the other of those 2 religions which enslaved them as vs being pagan or atheist.

    Posted by: jimmyboyo | Sep 13, 2007 7:17:59 PM

  12. I like Cafferty's style. Olberman says true things but I hate listening to him. So pompous, and full of easy cliches. Carson is a nothing no-talent nobody who is not funny. Shears has got plenty of talent but I don't find him cute or "charming" off-stage.

    Posted by: Miles | Sep 13, 2007 7:48:50 PM

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