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Same-Sex Marriage Foes in California Ready to Submit Petitions

The "Protect Marriage" coalition has announced that they've collected more than 1.1 million signatures in support of an amendment banning same-sex marriage in California, enough to get the measure on the ballot:

Cal"The initiative needs 694,354 signatures, or 8 percent of the votes cast in the last governor's race, to make it onto the ballot. 'We have gone against tremendous odds to do this, and now the voters in California will have the chance to protect marriage,' [Brian Brown, executive director of the California office of the National Organization for Marriage] said. Supporters of the Limit on Marriage initiative plan to deliver their signed petitions to county registrars this week, ahead of the April 28 submission deadline set by the California Secretary of State's Office. The signatures must be verified before the amendment can be approved for the election. Although gay men and lesbians cannot legally wed in California, opponents of same-sex unions want the ban written into the state Constitution. In that way, neither the Legislature nor the California Supreme Court can legalize gay marriage without approval from voters."

ArnoldThe California Supreme Court is expected to rule on same-sex marriage before June. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger recently promised to actively oppose any attempts to amend the constitution, calling it "a total waste of time."

The SF Chronicle reports: "Dan Hawes, an organizer with the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force who has spent two months on the effort to keep the initiative from qualifying, said he had never seen such a coordinated attempt to prevent a marriage amendment from making it to the ballot. 'There is a real sense of hope and possibility here because of the court ruling that is coming down in June,' he said. 'The fact that could be taken away in five months is really painful for people who want to marry.'"

Backers of Calif. gay marriage ban ready to submit petitions [sf chronicle]

Schwarzenegger Calls Gay Marriage Ban 'a Total Waste of Time' [tr]
California High Court Preparing Pro-Gay Ruling on Marriage? [tr]

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  1. Actually, this is one of two amendments... the second one (which may or may not qualify) goes further and targets domestic partnerships. I just don't understand who votes for this crap. Everyone I've spoken to thinks it is stupid and a waste of time. How can you be so insane as to want to limit individual rights in a constitution. They obviously don't realize that tomorrow the target may be them. Idiots! I just hope we Californian's get our act together and soundly defeat this at the ballot box. We need to send a clear message to the rest of the nation that we aren't going to stand for intolerance. Let the gloves come off!

    Posted by: Mike | Apr 22, 2008 12:00:53 PM

  2. Whatever.

    Posted by: Mike | Apr 22, 2008 12:17:52 PM

  3. I had a good idea. Force covenant marriages on straight couples, demonstrate absurdity by being absurd. Its all about protecting marriage.

    If straight California bans same sex marriage, lets make their lives more miserable, and use their words to protect marriage the honest way. Covenant marriage.

    Posted by: Matt in California | Apr 22, 2008 12:27:34 PM

  4. There's no way voters won't approve this.

    Posted by: Adam | Apr 22, 2008 12:29:57 PM

  5. Doug: Maybe Mike likes to whine on the web. That's what comments sections were made for. You have no idea what meaningful political activities he's involved in. So, rather than pointlessly rain on his parade, why don't you just take your own advice and be productive elsewhere?

    Posted by: Mark | Apr 22, 2008 12:33:24 PM

  6. I was one of the volunteers who took part in the efforts to persuade voters not to sign the petitions for this initiative. Needless to say, this news does not make me jump for joy. But after the disappointment cloud passes, I'm just going to get back into the fight against this political hate piece.

    Posted by: Peter | Apr 22, 2008 1:08:06 PM

  7. Well I for one...thought of a GREAT way to FUCK up thier Sanctity of Marriage....Have Gays and Lesbians Marry each other/and then get annulled - Over,and Over and over and over again....just to trash thier Sanctity...keep doing it...Over and Over and over....Get Publicity about it etc....then what will they do..? Prevent Gays/lesbians from marrying each other? Hmmmmmm - because to would seem we're making a Mockery of thier Marriages...WHICH WE WOULD BE! FUCK'M!

    Posted by: Disgusted american | Apr 22, 2008 1:26:00 PM

  8. If the folks really want to disqualify this initiative question the validity of the 1.1 million signatures. That is an unbelievably high number of valid signatures for any California initiative. People that were PAID for every signature they got most likely gathered these signatures. That should prove that many are likely invalid.

    Posted by: ggreen | Apr 22, 2008 1:32:32 PM

  9. I, too, was one of the volunteers here in California trying to stop the initiative. I've totally wrecked today. We worked so hard.

    Focus on the Family threw hundreds of thousands of dollars at paid signature gatherers who were relentless -- they actually told people in Hillcrest in San Diego that they were collecting signature for a PRO-gay marriage initiative. It's disgusting what happened here.

    Even worse is how unaware so many in the LGBT community were. I would talk to gay men in 20-year relationships and they hadn't even heard this was going on. And this is California.

    If gay marriage survives here, it will much more likely happen in the other undecided states. Please, tell your friends in California to get involved any way they can.

    Posted by: ted | Apr 22, 2008 2:05:41 PM

  10. I think we need a petition verification system. Find out who signed a particular initiative.

    If you were conned in signing the initiative, or someone forged your details from a particular initiative then you could immediately redact your signature.

    Its great that we are better organized than 2000's Proposition 22, but we are not as mobilized as we could be.

    If we want to win in November, WE MUST go towards the swing communities not just the gay friendly or the redneck communities.

    Posted by: Matt in California | Apr 22, 2008 2:13:35 PM

  11. I think a constitutional amendment to ban divorce is the ONLY way to save marriage.

    And what about the children? Having mommy and daddy schlep kids from one parent to another is not good for their well-being.

    You ARE for the children, aren't you?

    Posted by: mwf | Apr 22, 2008 2:46:55 PM

  12. It seems to me that any petition that has a high number of forged signatures should be voided post haste; not just the forged signature but the entire initiative.

    Time and time again we see these paid signature gatherers conning people into signing their petitions or outright forging signatures. There has to be a way to stop this fraud. It will never stop until we start holding the initiative sponsors, and the fates of the initiatives themselves, responsible for the fraud carried out in their name.

    I am really afraid that this initiative will make the ballot, the Supreme Court will strike down Prop. 22 and possibly call for marriage equality outright and the ensuing backlash will peak right about November. As usual, everything seems to be timed perfectly for the benefit of our opponents. I personally don't think that that is a coincidence.

    Posted by: Zeke | Apr 22, 2008 2:52:59 PM

  13. I hope each and every person who signed this amendment makes it onto the below website:

    Posted by: Mr. Rogers | Apr 22, 2008 2:59:34 PM

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