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Mega Prop 8 UPDATE: Weekend of Action


I've been making ongoing updates to this since my initial post and will continue to run this on the front page for the remainder of the day.

Obamaprop8There is so much going on right now, I've tried to round-up all the Prop 8-related news I've received over the past 48 hours into this one post. There's a lot. I encourage you to educate yourselves, and DONATE if you can. This weekend is extremely important, and THE CALL prayer rally in San Diego that the anti-gays are putting on is sure to draw a lot of attention.

road.jpg The results of a NEW FIELD POLL were released last night: "A new Field Poll shows Proposition 8, one of the most closely watched state ballot measures in years, is supported by 44 percent of likely voters. Forty-nine percent oppose it, and 7 percent are undecided. In the last Field Poll, released Sept. 18, the measure was behind by 17 points. 'It's certainly closer than it was before the advertising campaign hit,' said Field Poll director Mark DiCamillo. 'A lot of that has to do with the campaigning on the Yes (on 8) side.' More analysis on the poll here.

DONATE HERE and help win this battle. Your help is URGENTLY needed, particularly in light of the following new information:

Obamamailer200road.jpg The "No on Prop 8" campaign condemned an official Proposition 8 mailer (pictured) targeted at African-American voters that misprepresents Obama's position on Proposition 8. The Obama campaign released a statement in response to the mailer: "Senators Obama and Biden have made clear their commitment to fighting for equal rights for all Americans whether it's by granting LGBT Americans all the civil rights and benefits available to heterosexual couples, or repealing 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell," said a statement issued by campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt. "Senator Obama has already announced that the Obama-Biden ticket opposes Proposition 8 and similar discriminatory constitutional amendments that could roll back the civil rights he and Senator Biden strongly believe should be afforded to all Americans."

Youngroad.jpg Former San Francisco 49ers' Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young, one of the Bay area's most prominent Mormons, has posted "No on Prop 8" signs in his front yard, a visible and significant break from the church that has funded the majority of the campaign to pass the anti-gay ballot measure: "In addition, records show Young's wife, Barbara, has donated approximately $50,000 to the 'No On 8' campaign aimed at defeating Proposition 8. Steve Young, answering a doorbell ring at his home late Friday afternoon, declined to comment about the signs in his yard. But in an e-mailed statement to the gay rights group Equality California, Barbara Young wrote: "We believe all families matter, and we do not believe in discrimination, therefore, our family will vote against Prop. 8."

Donations for and against Proposition 8 have shattered records, according to U.S. News and World Report: "the campaigns for and against Proposition 8 have raised more than $60 million in donations, setting a new record nationally for a social policy initiative—and trumping every other race in the country this year in spending except the presidential contest."

road.jpg 'No on Prop 8' released this new ad featuring Samuel L. Jackson, called "Discrimination".

road.jpg NO ON 8 STATEMENT on FIELD POLL: "The Field Poll shows that Prop 8's deceptive campaign has failed to move their numbers much at all. Prop 8 is trying to run a campaign to get to a Yes vote, yet they have remained in this and other polls well below the 50 percent margin necessary for success. We are running a No campaign, and we are successfully keeping our opponents below 50 percent. We are highly energized across the state and we believe this will be a close election. We reject any suggestion that there will be a last minute surge for Prop 8 in a year where California is expected to go overwhelmingly for Sen. Barack Obama. In fact, today Prop 8 Campaign Manager Frank Schubert released a blog statement fretting that the presidential election would be called early on the East Coast, thereby depressing conservative voting in California. Finally, we note that the Field Poll has a stellar record on initiatives and has been accurate 94 percent of the time." - 'No on 8 Senior Campaign Adviser Steve Smith'

road.jpg Voter confusion seen over whether "no" means "yes" or "yes" means "no".

Billroad.jpg Millions of registered voters in California received a phone call from Bill Clinton last night, according to the "No on Prop 8" campaign. Said Clinton in the call: "This is Bill Clinton calling to ask you to vote NO on Proposition 8 on Tuesday, November 4th. Proposition 8 would use state law to single out one group of Californians to be treated differently -- discriminating against members of our family, our friends and our co-workers. If I know one thing about California, I know that is not what you're about. That is not what America is about. Please vote NO on 8. It's unfair and it's wrong. Thank you."

Rosieroad.jpg ROSIE O'DONNELL's lack of engagement (and donations) to the "No on Prop 8" battle has been getting a lot of attention recently. Jeremy at Good as You has compiled the points she has made about it on her blog. Considering the fact that O'Donnell and her partner took advantage of the California marriage law back in 2004, her absence today is baffling.

road.jpg A group of SILICON VALLEY TECH LEADERS took out a full page ad in the San Joe Mercury News today urging voters to "Say NO to Prop 8":

Techad"The honorary co-chairs of “Silicon Valley Leaders Say NO on Proposition 8″ include: Sergey Brin; Bill Campbell, Chairman, Intuit; David Filo, Founder, Yahoo; Chuck Geschke, Founder and Chairman, Adobe Systems; John Morgridge, Former CEO and Chairman, Cisco Systems; Pierre Omidyar, Founder and Chairman, eBay; Sheryl Sandberg, COO, Facebook; Eric Schmidt, CEO, Google; and Jerry Yang, Founder, Yahoo." Click to enlarge or view it here.

road.jpg A new internet poll shows that Prop 8 fails with Latino voters.

road.jpg The "No on Prop 8:" campaign released a statement by 300 CALIFORNIA PEDIATRICIANS refuting the MD who signed the Prop 8 ballot argument. "The pediatrician statement took issue with Dr. Anderson, who identifies herself as a Fellow of the American College of Pediatricians. According to that organization’s Web site, the American College of Pediatricians believes homosexuality is “preventable and changeable” and that “spanking can be an effective component of discipline.”

road.jpg Here's an ABC News report on the battle.

road.jpg Security has been stepped up around Superintendent Jack O'Connell, the California Superintendent of Schools, following nasty correspondence directed his way over producing this ad expressing his opposition to Proposition 8

road.jpg Stephen Colbert went after Apple and Prop 8 with his typical facetious approach.

Here are two new web spots. It's a shame the one on the left, by Republicans Against 8 and featuring Ronald Reagan and Arnold Schwarzenegger, is not running on TV (as far as I know). The other is made by CauseCast and features Kathy Griffin and others.


This is what's happening this weekend in San Diego - 'THE CALL' - a massive prayer vigil and rally against same-sex marriage at Quallcomm stadium.

road.jpg Focus on the Family's James Dobson explained on his radio show his "sudden decision" to go to California this weekend to join Lou Engel, Tony Perkins and others at the massive "The Call prayer rally in San Diego. Listen to the AUDIO as "Dobson chokes up explaining that despite having been on the go for weeks and being exhausted, he knew God wanted him there."

road.jpg COUNTER: Here is a list of INTERFAITH SERVICES with "No on 8" themes happening throughout California this weekend.

road.jpg Threatening politicians: Campbell City Council member Evan Low says he has been threatened with recall. "I have received seven calls today threatening to recall me from office if I do not publicly retract my position and switch to Yes on 8. The Yes on 8 campaign is continuing their efforts of deception and coercion. Let's have a strong showing during this final stretch." Last week I mentioned that the 'Protect Marriage' thugs were blackmailing businesses to force them to support Prop 8.

Ashtonroad.jpg The secret $1 million donor to the "Yes on 8" campaign has been revealed. It's Mormon bigot Alan Ashton, of Lindon, Utah. "According to the Deseret News, Ashton is a Mormon and grandson of David O. McKay, President of the Mormon Church from 1951-1970. Ashton made his fortune in software. The donation was reported by the Prop 8 campaign on October 28. The funds were in the form of matching funds to air a TV commercial that includes images of children who are being aired over the objection of their parents." Ashton is the cofounder of WordPerfect. His fellow cofounder, Bruce Bastian, gave one million for our side.

road.jpg As you may know, the "No on Prop 8" website was the victim of a massive coordinated Denial-of-Service DOS attack by hackers which brought it down for several hours on Wednesday. The "Yes on 8" people have been throwing everything they can at this, including plenty of cash. Yesterday I posted a video of spokesperson Brad Dacus comparing gay marriage to Nazi Germany!

Kentroad.jpg Los Angeles Dodgers second baseman Jeff Kent has given $15,000 to the anti-gay bigots. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has donated $200,000 to the anti-gay bigots: "Along with leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and evangelical Christians, Catholic clergy and laity have been active participants in the coalition of religious groups working to pass the initiative. Donations totaling $1.4 million have made The Knights of Columbus, a Catholic fraternal organization, the largest institutional donor to the Yes on 8 campaign."

road.jpg "Yes on 8" has gone so far to squat on domain names that are one letter off of the "No on Prop 8" campaign's. If an internet visitor types in "wwwnoonpro8" and leaves out a "p", they are directed to the "Yes on 8" website.


road.jpg You have until midnight tonight to DONATE HERE and help win this battle.

road.jpg There is a CANDLELIGHT VIGIL in SAN DIEGO at The Center at the corner of University Ave. & Center St. starting between 8 and 8:45 pm on Saturday night in response to the ugly THE CALL prayer and fast I featured above. San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders will attend that rally.

road.jpg There is a massive "No on Prop 8" rally in West Hollywood this Sunday at 4 pm. The No on Prop 8 organizers write: "We need as many bodies out on the street as we can get. We have official picket signs but we encourage everyone to make signs as well. However, please keep the signs simple – (No on Prop 8 or Defeat Prop 8). Let’s also make sure that we make a good impression in front of the media, so please no profanity and dress appropriately."

road.jpg Here is a list of INTERFAITH SERVICES with "No on 8" themes happening throughout California this weekend.

road.jpg BUS TOUR: Three families and friends will be embarking on a "No on Prop 8" bus tour beginning Saturday, November 1st at 9:00am at the entrance to the Santa Monica Pier: "The families will be comprised of both gay and straight parents, and grandparents. Confirmed to be on hand in Santa Monica, will be Mark Ruffalo and his family. Waiting for confirmation for several other celebrities. In addition, a crowd of over 300 opponents to Prop 8 are expected to show...the bus will get up to San Francisco by Sunday evening. The journey on Monday morning will take them to the steps of the state capital in Sacramento. Afterwards the bus will return to Los Angeles with a final stop at 7pm at West Hollywood Park on San Vicente Blvd.

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Recent Prop 8 Updates
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Proposition 8 Update: Internal Polling Shows Dead Heat: Urgent Help Still Needed [tr]

Constitutional attorney Jim Brosnahan SPEAKS OUT:

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  1. I would hate to think Jeff Kent would get a tone of negative emails on the Los Angeles Dodgers official websit. That would be terribly inconvenient.

    Posted by: David T | Oct 31, 2008 9:21:33 AM

  2. This certainly got my attention! I've now made my 3rd donation.

    Posted by: Tom S. | Oct 31, 2008 9:46:50 AM


    Posted by: CLIFF | Oct 31, 2008 9:50:51 AM

  4. Cliff, it takes a little while for them to show up, as the No on 8 people have some time to report the figures to the Secretary of State (I think?). Then the SoS has to input them, and then these databases are updated. I made another donation 3 days ago, and it isn't up yet. Mine from a week ago is though.

    Posted by: Zeeshan | Oct 31, 2008 9:58:11 AM

  5. Andy and others -- there are lots of interfaith efforts happening all around California tomorrow (Saturday, November 1, 2009) to offer a counter-point to The Call gathering at Qualcom. If you live in the SF Bay area, come to Glide Memorial Church in San Francisco for an 11:00 a.m. interfaith service and then get-out-the-vote training at 12:00.

    There will be lots of clergy from many different traditions--all who oppose Prop. 8. And we are expecting lots of media so that we can show that those who identify as "religious" are also opposing Prop. 8.

    Posted by: Rachel | Oct 31, 2008 10:00:37 AM

  6. Cliff, they report donations by months. So you're will show up later.

    I searched my name and my lastest donation doesn't show up yet either.

    And to Rosie: FUCK YOU!

    Posted by: Tralfaz | Oct 31, 2008 10:02:03 AM


    Posted by: CLIFF | Oct 31, 2008 10:13:06 AM

  8. I'm less concerned with my name showing up on some donor list than I am that the organization aggressively target voters in the very short time left to reach them.

    Posted by: Mark in NYC | Oct 31, 2008 10:14:12 AM

  9. I am so disheartened by Rosie's silence and the way she treats the people asking her reaction to this particular issue. I guess she really is nothing but just a BIG MOUTH!

    I am going to make sure that her NBC show will be a big failure.

    I used to love her... but the way she is reacting right now... what a shame!

    Posted by: Roy | Oct 31, 2008 10:24:49 AM


    Posted by: CLIFF | Oct 31, 2008 10:33:00 AM

  11. People hate Rosie. I think she is doing us all a favor by not becoming involved.

    Perhaps she realizes that she is a polarizing figure and very unpopular with the general public and is doing the right thing by keeping her dumb ass mouth shut!

    Posted by: Dan B | Oct 31, 2008 10:35:02 AM

  12. CLIFF-

    where is the list of donors? I cant find it

    Posted by: Dan B | Oct 31, 2008 10:38:32 AM

  13. Very glad to see Obama's support on the No on Prop 8! One more reason he strongly has my vote on Tuesday!!

    I am surprised to see such quietness on Rosie O's part. Wonder what that really is about because even though she lives in New York doesn't mean it doesn't affect her or millions of people.

    Posted by: dennie | Oct 31, 2008 10:43:43 AM

  14. For public release
    Presbyterians Against Proposition 8
    October 28, 2008

    Brothers and Sisters of many faiths,

    Let us be absolutely clear that in our opposition to Proposition 8 we are asking nothing more than what already exists in the respectful balance between the beliefs and practices of our many faiths and California constitutional law.

    Within the many communities of faith in our State we have conflicting doctrines and beliefs that already govern the practice of marriage.

    Our Roman Catholic, Mormon and many of our evangelical churches do not and will not marry persons who are divorced. But that does not mean that those who are divorced are constitutionally prohibited from the right of legal marriage in our state.

    Likewise, our Roman Catholic, Mormon, and some Jewish and Muslim faith traditions will not marry persons of different faith traditions. But that does not mean that interfaith couples, or those of no particular faith tradition, cannot be married in our state.

    Our California constitution honors all religious traditions by respecting our differences about religious marriage while at the same time providing and protecting the right of all couples to marry the person of their choice.

    Prop. 8 would ELIMINATE the constitutional right of same sex couples to marry. That is unfair and unjust. California constitutional law already honors and respects religious differences. No religious institution is forced to marry anyone. But that does not mean that any person in our state should lose their constitutional right for legal marriage.

    I urge you to protect our constitutional rights as well as our right to religious diversity and pluralism by voting NO on Proposition 8.

    Thank you.

    Rev. Daniel E. Smith
    Pastor, West Hollywood Presbyterain Church
    7350 W. Sunset Blvd
    Los Angeles, CA 90046

    Ph: 323-874-6646

    Worship Service: Sundays at 11 AM

    West Hollywood Presbyterian Church
    7350 Sunset Blvd at Martel St
    (between LaBrea and Fairfax)
    Los Angeles, CA 90046

    Posted by: Stuart Falk | Oct 31, 2008 10:44:36 AM

  15. Hooray for the Samuel L. Jackson ad... I think I actually saw some same-sex couples in this one!

    Posted by: Alan | Oct 31, 2008 11:10:22 AM


    Posted by: CLIFF | Oct 31, 2008 11:16:39 AM

  17. The christian bigots chose these fights and have a lot invested in them. That's why they're so desperate. For the moment the polls seem to be tightening but it's hard to tell what that means. I think we have to have more than 55% in the polls to win because of the likely GLBT equivalent of the Bradley Effect.

    A big plus for us is the increasing participation of unions who’ve contributed well over a million dollars to NoOn8 and sent out mailings and emails by the millions explaining that Prop 8 hurts everyone on the job.

    The robocalling is probably the work of Republican political operatives and that needs to be traced. Whatever the outcome we have to go after the cults for interfering in civil affairs and specifically go after yeson8 and the others for blackmail and other illegalities. That kind of stuff is actually against the law, although it's not strictly or often enforced by DA’s from parties that pander to the cult vote like Democrats and Republicans.

    Another thing we need is for liberals and Democrats to tell Obama and Biden to STFU about their bigoted opposition to same sex marriage. It hurts us badly in California, Arizona, and Florida. I'd expect the GLBT folks in the Democratic Party to raise a stink about this but considering that they have no, zero, nada clout in their political closet of choice and Obama won't even mention the terms GLBT in his platform why would he pay attention now?

    McCain is a rancid right-winger with the Clinons DOMA attached at the hip.

    Obama is Bill Clinton (DOMA, DADT, NAFTA) in drag with the bigot-war criminal Colin Powell newly attached at the hip.

    Posted by: Bill Perdue | Oct 31, 2008 11:17:00 AM

  18. Post videos online to VOTE NO on PROP 8. Some people are still confused about how to vote. Some believe voting yes is for gay marriage. Make it clear it is not.

    These last four days are the most critical. Get the word out by any means even if you don't live in California you can help. I don't live in CA and I have been posting videos online for four weeks now urging people to vote NO. Download Windows movie maker or any movie making software and make videos. Use ms paint or some picture program to create story boards.

    Go on liberal blogs like dailykos and thinkprogress to gin up donations and support to DEFEAT prop 8.

    Do whatever you can.

    Posted by: VOTE NO on PROP 8 | Oct 31, 2008 11:19:33 AM

  19. Andy, your round-up of No on 8 news these past few weeks has been the best anywhere. The electronic and print media in California itself (mainstream and otherwise) has been relatively late or less comprehensive. The prominence you have given this issue is truly helpful and appreciated. Thank you!

    With their distortions, hysteria and hate/fear-mongering, our opponents now are seemingly casting this as a referendum on homosexuality itself, rather than on the constitutional issue at hand. As if a Yes vote would put the the issues of gay visibility and civil rights back in the bottle and would never be spoken of again. What nonsense.

    If you can give more, please do so (today!). If you can volunteer, please do so. But telling your own story to others in person, online, or through email--i.e., personalizing the issue--can be particularly influential, especially given that gay people and couples have been relatively scarce in the main campaign. My partner and I have e-mailed and posted our own perspective ( and have been surprised at how far it has gone just in a few days. Share your own story and help put a face on the issue for the people you know. That can be extremely valuable in reaching that (still??) undecided 7%.

    And finally, thank you to those of you outside of California who are also helping so much to fight this.

    Posted by: Gianpiero | Oct 31, 2008 11:20:13 AM

  20. I was heartened to see when I checked the list of contributors that in NJ 13 contributors supported Prop 8 And 308 contributors OPPOSED it. Go, NJ!!!

    I was disappointed though that I checked the list for my name and those of others who have made multiple contributions since Andy began reporting this during the summer and not a single one showed up! I personally contributed a significant amount to the cause and now I'm wondering where that money went. And this amount does not include money donated this month either, I'm talking about throughout the summer. Something isn't right here and I think I'm done contributing. Sorry but I don't feel good about this right now.

    Posted by: JerzeeMike | Oct 31, 2008 11:29:00 AM

  21. Thanks Andy for doing such a fantastic job of covering this battle. For anyone in SD, here's another website that you may find helpful:

    This is The Center's Advocacy Project website which has information about the candlelight vigil coming up tomorrow night. The site also has info on the other discriminatory practices we are fighting.

    Posted by: znsd | Oct 31, 2008 11:32:57 AM

  22. The database search is definitely broken. It's pulling up the same names for opposing and supporting Prop 8 (and I know some of the donors and they definitely didn't donate to the support faction.) Plus, it's coming up the same amounts for donations.

    Posted by: what | Oct 31, 2008 11:33:02 AM

  23. Andy, Thanks for your many contributions financial and otherwise to the No On 8 Campaign. Other bloggers have been bitching up a storm but you have done something extra in contributing hard cash. Love from CA

    Posted by: ggreen | Oct 31, 2008 11:38:07 AM

  24. I hate proposition 8. I love that so many are speaking out against it. It disgusts me that religious organizations are spending millions on discrimination. I want the right to marry. However, I do not think equal rights should be for sale, and I don't agree with the hysteria surrounding prop 8 right now. If it passes, it will eventually fail. Justice always wins in the end. I think this is what Rosie thinks, too.

    Posted by: ROB | Oct 31, 2008 11:41:48 AM

  25. I used this search engine to see what kind of support was coming to you in CA from MA.. There are as of Oct 29 over 850 donors against prop 8 and only 17 YES 17 donors FOR PROP 8! WE ARE WITH YOU ALL NOT ONLY IN OUR THOOUGHTS BUT IN OUR WALLETS AND IN OUR HOPES FOR FREEDOM FOR ALL CA RESIDENTS!!!

    Posted by: alex in Boston | Oct 31, 2008 11:49:04 AM

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