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Prop 8 Supports File Lawsuit: Remove Public Access to Donor Records


For those of you who are visually inclined, a tipster sent in the above map to take you to a Google Map/Prop 8 donor mash-up, showing locations of folks who donated to "Yes on 8" along with the available info. This may have been around for a while, but it's the first time I'd seen it.

A couple new developments on that front:

Gm1road.jpg Supporters of Prop 8 have filed a lawsuit seeking to block their campaign finance reports from the public: "The lawsuit, filed Wednesday in federal court in Sacramento, asks the court to order the secretary of state's office to remove all donations for the proposition from its Web site. The groups announced the lawsuit Thursday. It also asks the court to relieve the two groups and "all similarly situated persons" from having to meet the state's campaign disclosure requirements. That would include having to file a final report on Proposition 8 contributions at the end of January, as well as reports for any future campaigns the groups undertake...The lawsuit by Bopp's clients cites a series of incidents in which those who gave money to support the ballot measure have received threatening phone calls, e-mails and postcards...Businesses have been threatened with boycotts because people who worked there contributed to the Proposition 8 campaign, the suit said."

Gm2road.jpg Equality California called the lawsuit hypocritical in a press release: "This lawsuit could not be more hypocritical. During the Proposition 8 campaign, the very same groups who filed this legal challenge sent menacing letters to Equality California's donors, as well as corporations, labor unions, and individuals who stood up to discrimination and supported the No on 8 Campaign. Now they are calling themselves the victims. What's more, these groups are arguing on the one hand that voter initiatives like Prop 8 should never be overturned by courts. On the other, they are asking a federal court to void a campaign reform law that was passed by voter initiative in California. They are asking that donations to Yes on 8 and only Yes on 8, even if illegal, be hidden from the public. This leads us to wonder what they have to hide?"

What are these black and white images from? Check out the video, AFTER THE JUMP...

Nukeroad.jpg Californians Against Hate responded to the lawsuit as well: "These very contributors to the Yes on Prop 8 campaign have spent months gloating about their enormous contributions to take away the rights of a minority and write discrimination into the California Constitution. And now they want to keep these names secret? This is despicable. The Mormon Church is currently under investigation by the California Fair Political Practices Commission (FPPC) for not reporting vast amounts of non-monetary contributions to the Yes on 8 campaign. The Salt Lake City based church ran out of state phone banks, established web sites, produced slick commercials, videos and satellite simulcasts, printed campaign materials, bussed in thousands of church members into California from Utah and other states and apparently failed to report these activities. Now the Mormon Church and their allies are hoping to keep secret all of their contributions, this is crazy."


Noon8_2road.jpg A resident of the Bay Area peninsula city of Menlo Park was reportedly asked by police officers to remove the "No on Prop 8" sign from her front yard: "Two police officers knocked on the door of a Menlo Park resident yesterday morning and told her to remove her yard sign against Prop. 8, the same-sex marriage ban. Teresa Ryals told the Post that the officers were 'very apologetic' but said the sign on Central Avenue must be removed immediately. Police were acting on a complaint received by the office of City Manager Glenn Rojas. An anonymous caller complained the sign, which said "Vote no on Proposition 8 -- it's unfair and wrong," was still standing in the Ryals' yard two months after the election. The officers visited two other homes in the Central and Laurel neighborhood, also asking that their signs be taken down, according to Menlo Park Police spokeswoman Nicole Acker. ... Acker did not know if the code section had been enforced after previous elections."

road.jpg In related news, Timothy Kincaid at Box Turtle Bulletin blog took a look at the NGLTF's recent report that concluded that exit polls regarding Proposition 8 and the Black vote were exaggerated. He believes that there's some wishful thinking in their numbers and offers an analysis and some ideas.

road.jpg Jerry Brown's switch on Prop 8 reflects the times, lawmakers say..."Sheila Kuehl, the former California assemblywoman who became the first openly gay state legislator, said Brown's actions do reflect the enormous change that has occurred on an issue now at the epicenter of a national controversy...With Brown leading the field of potential Democratic gubernatorial contenders, the issue underscores a potential dilemma for one of California's most visible and experienced elected officials...Still, he could be challenged on the issue by San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, who has strong backing among gays and lesbians for allowing the state's first same-sex marriages at San Francisco City Hall in 2004.."

Check out the satirical video, What About Gay Marriage, AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. Timothy Kincaid challenges the NGLTF's recent report that concluded exit polls regarding Prop. 8 were exaggerated.

    Timothy concludes that "the fact is - regardless of how much NGLTF would wish otherwise - that the gay community does not truly have a strategic alliance with black voters. We do not have African American support. We can fully expect that unless something drastically changes, future votes on gay equality will have large percentages of African Americans voting against our rights."

    So who's right, the original exit poll, NGLTF's recent report or Timothy Kincaid? It looks like the matter of "black homophobia" and Prop. 8 is NOT going away anytime soon.

    Posted by: elg | Jan 9, 2009 9:35:02 AM

  2. the vid is absolutely hilarious.

    Posted by: nic | Jan 9, 2009 10:13:44 AM

  3. So Yes for Prop 8 don't want to be known?

    Let's pull the white hoods off these motherf@*%kers cause that's how they are acting. They are the KKK of the Gay Community.

    Posted by: Maverick69 | Jan 9, 2009 10:38:03 AM

  4. Out them for the bigots they are, its public record, and, should remain so.

    As for Kincaid, he needs to put a sock in it, the condescending, bigoted way some of these people talk down to people of color is the reason none of them want to hear about the struggle for fairness or support it.

    Posted by: Luke | Jan 9, 2009 10:59:41 AM

  5. @LUKE,

    "people of color"? i assume that you mean blacks. don't lump me in with with fundamentalists. kincaid is providing a service. a problem will not go away if one ignores it. i am sick of overly defensive people shooting the messengers. face it, solve it.

    Posted by: nic | Jan 9, 2009 11:34:04 AM

  6. I find it completely ridiculous and hypocritical that the Pro-8 folks want their names removed from the public record. I am proud that my name has been recorded as being against Prop-8. As the story implies, what are they trying to hide?

    Posted by: Mike | Jan 9, 2009 11:40:31 AM

  7. You mean people like Steven Spiker, VP of Entertainment Partners/Central Casting who donated via his wife? Funny how people who would have us hide are now doing it themselves. Turnabout's fair play. If you supported it, defend your morals that compelled you to do so. I'll defend mine.

    Posted by: John | Jan 9, 2009 12:16:15 PM

  8. I certainly hope that some persons with greater computer savvy than I are as we speak downloading all of the information from the SOS website so that it will remain available regardless of this stupid lawsuit.

    Posted by: Glenn | Jan 9, 2009 12:41:41 PM

  9. If any of you complain about repression after this you are the hypocrites. Or is it okay when you are doing it?

    Posted by: James | Jan 9, 2009 12:49:14 PM

  10. They were pround to write the checks for Prop 8, they should have no issue with thier names out in public to stand up for their faith and hate.

    Kincaid? I read the article, and, still see no one offering any ideas of bridge building, just more negative words and sterotypes and that isn't doing anyone any good.

    Posted by: Sebastian | Jan 9, 2009 1:37:13 PM

  11. I clicked around San Francisco and noticed that a truly disproportionate number of contributors were in the financial sector. Accountants, investment brokers, etc. Hmmm... aren't these the same kind of folks that got us into the financial mess that we're in now?

    I also had to laugh at some of the others... a "student" in Utah giving $8,000? Another in SF giving $500? Man, where do I sign up to be a student with enough spare change to contribute like that?

    Finally, I loved the monochrome picture above of the guy in suit & tie with a woman. He sure looks like Donny Osmond. Shore godda purdy mouth.

    Posted by: NoCaDrummer | Jan 9, 2009 3:06:07 PM

  12. the guy in the toolshed meant to evoke Matt Drudge or purpose, or is it just a happy accident?

    Posted by: KJ | Jan 9, 2009 3:20:06 PM

  13. The clusters of contributions in the East Bay and Silicon Valley are really disappointing. Gays don't live and work solely in San Francisco.

    Posted by: Paul R | Jan 9, 2009 3:23:16 PM

  14. lesbians can be testy. am i right ladies?!

    Posted by: nic | Jan 9, 2009 4:31:32 PM

  15. If you are in Los Angeles THIS SATURDAY!
    January 10, 2009
    2:00 PM – Action Fair
    6:00 PM – Live Performance of “Prop. 8: The Musical”

    As part of a national ‘Day of Protest’ against the 1996 Federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) – which prevents the federal government from recognizing same-sex marriages performed in any of the nation’s 50 states – thousands of LGBT Angelenos and their allies will gather at THE RESOLUTION, an action fair focusing on the fights for marriage equality and against DOMA. Members of the community will be given an opportunity to go booth to booth and perform direct actions such as signing a postcard to Obama, writing a letter to a congressperson, signing a petition, and much more. There will also be a museum setup at the fair featuring artifacts from LGBT history ranging from legal documents to the personal items of Harvey Milk.

    Posted by: FunMe | Jan 9, 2009 7:04:52 PM

  16. Why is it that whenever gays boycott something it is wrong and evil, but whenever American Family Association boycotts Pepsi, they are doing Gods work.

    Posted by: Aiden Raccoon | Jan 10, 2009 3:25:01 AM

  17. Put your money where your big-unfair-mouth is! Idiots. Why not just sneak up behind us and hit us on the back of the head next time. And if you plan on doing that, you better understand that "god" does not stand for anything you are doing - I do not believe in god - I am only quoting your "religulous" beliefs!

    Remember, you’re a sinner! And always will be - how’s that for your god!

    Posted by: GR | Jan 10, 2009 1:10:44 PM

  18. I want to go to THAT church!

    Posted by: Chris | Jan 11, 2009 9:51:20 AM

  19. Dobson & the Mormons decided early on that "Yes On 8" was their last chance in the culture wars. If they lost now, it was over. So they had their people throw every bit of cash they could at it.

    It seems to me now that the "No On 8" folks were either asleep at the wheel or ceded the election from the start. Where was Hollywood? Where was the national leadership? It wasn't an election we *had* to lose, but they seemed content to let it go.

    Funny thing is--the vote on 8 seems to have backfired. By declaring war on our rights so openly and brazenly, they've made us finally declare war back.

    I understand their fear--we're angry as hell at the people who funded our change to 2nd class citizenry. But they can't hide from what they've done.

    Posted by: AdamBlast | Jan 12, 2009 12:03:19 PM

  20. Proposition 8 was passed by the majority of the people. Let the gays have a civil union, not marriage as we traditionally know it. Intimidation by the gays will not work.

    Posted by: Robert Nelson | Jan 15, 2009 1:52:47 PM

  21. so is there a place where i can obtain a list of these donors? i want to know if there are any companies i should boycott

    Posted by: paul | Jan 30, 2009 3:53:26 PM

  22. YES, Steve Spiker, a Mormon and a VP at Central Casting/GEP called me names like "fruit", "fairy", "homo", "princess" and "queer" dally for over 3 years while I was doing "time" at central casting as a casting director!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mr. Spiker still remains in office there. Some enforceable policies are just for the poor under guy. NOT MR. VP MORON, oops I mean MORMON. Hippocrates! I'm sure when he dies he'll talk to his "make believe" maker about the good he did with his lies and back stabbing in ruining a mans life forever. MAY HE AND HIS FAMILY ROT IN HELL FOREVER!!! Oh, yeah, he claims to have been a Rev to the church at one time. Good role model!

    Posted by: BrokenForever | Oct 6, 2010 3:32:06 AM

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