Fred Karger on Maine’s Decision to Investigate NOM

Fred Karger of Californians Against Hate talks about the surprise decision by the Maine Ethics Commission to reject the recommendation of its staff and vote to investigate the National Organization for Marriage.

Karger LGBT POV: "Then the questions started. And I know there are three lawyers of the five commissioners
on there and they started their cross-examination. And it unraveled for
[executive director] Brian [Brown] and this one guy – a very prominent attorney – I saw him on his
own cable show yesterday – said, ‘I think there are too many questions
here. I think this commission should investigate.’ I think his name is
Walter McKee [Democrat – Hallowell]. Brian didn’t do well. I think the fact that he’s been untruthful was
pretty transparent. And when they were done testifying, and this Mr.
McKee again said – they started discussion but then it turned into a
motion, which was immediately seconded to open an investigation – to
overrule the staff report. My heart started pounding. I got all emotional. It was literally
pulling victory out of the jaws of defeat. It was a done deal, I
thought. And then it all came down to: is there a third vote in this
five member commission? And this one very distinguished gentleman on
the right – Francis [Marsano – Republican – Belfast] – he chimed in and
said, ‘Yeah, I think there are too many questions here.’ He added to
the chorus. And suddenly there’s a third vote…"

And here's Karger's CAH statement about the investigation.


  1. michael says

    I would love a full investigation into NOM. One cannot help but wonder why this Maggie Gallagher and Brian Brown are so anti same-sex marriage. Who/What are they really a front for???

  2. Dan McCarry says

    In the eye of the Catholic church, Maggie Gallagher is a WHORE for having born child out of wedlock. Please read below what she wrote me in reply not long ago:

    MAGGIE: Interracial marriages are marriages because they serve the primary government interest in regulating marriage: preventing fatherless children and encouraging the birth of children into mother and father families. In fact the attempt to ban them in a minority of states was a backhanded acknowledgement that this IS marriage’s public purpose; the goal of anit miscegenation laws was to keep the races from “mixing” genetically–keep the “bloodline”s ‘pure’– so that one race could oppress the other.

    Same-sex unions are not marriages. The government may pass a law insisting that zebras are horses because after all theya re rather alike in many ways, but that does not make it true.

    If you go to www. you can read rather more lengthy and footnoted argumetns I have made.

    Take care, Maggie

    On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Dan McCarry > wrote:
    Dear Maggie Gallagher,

    Truthfully, what is your issue with same sex marriages?

    I ask, why then can a black man and a white woman marry? Why can a man legally marry multiple women at one time? Why is it legal for over weight people marry? Do you plan to judge what position a couple can fornicate? Have you ever been in love?

    What event happened causing you to go on a rampage of hate? Did you fall in love with a man only to be rejected because he was gay?!

    You could have a pretty face Maggie if you were to smile nicely. You wear red lipstick well, but could use some help with your coiffe. Smile and be nice.

    What, may I ask, is your insecurity and grudge with homosexuals and people who are normal? Am I homosexual? Are you a closet lesbian? Are you God? Why is it any of your business or interest what your neighbors do in their home? Why do you discourage peoples happiness?

    Wouldn’t it be constructive and better for humanity to not hate or discriminate…perhaps invest more time in your own personal romance than that of others? It is not fair that you and others in the heterosexual community believe you should have exclusive rights, more rights than your fellow tax paying neighbors.

    What is your perverse fascination with homosexuals and others not like you? What do you do in your bed?! Are your children homosexual or heterosexual? Are you happily married?

    Can you say anything justifiable?

    Dan McCarry

    On Aug 23, 2009, at 11:05 PM, Maggie Gallagher wrote:

    I am sorry you cannot process disagreement except as “hate and evil.” I’ve grown used to it, but it still saddens me.

    Marriage is the bringing together of male and female. That’s what marriage is. There are reason why protcting this idea is important.

    But what strikes me most deeply is how a movement comes up with a totally novel idea (gay marriage) and then accuses those who disagree of somehow being aggressive and imposing something .

    You aren’t hte only one. But its striking.

    Take care, sorry we disagree. Maggie

    On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Dan McCarry wrote:
    I cannot believe you “christians” get away with promoting such hate and evil. ALL Americans should have the right to marry. If all couples are not granted equal rights, then ban all marriages completely.

    “Heterosexuals have the right to live as they choose, they don’t have the right to redefine marriage for all of us.”

    What happened to separation of church and state? If religious groups have any say in politics, they should pay taxes.

    Shame on you Maggie.