1. DairyQueen says

    I think it’s a noble and great thing they did, but it is totally falling on deaf ears.
    The mormon church could care less about these people or what they stand for.

  2. Eager ears says

    I think this is exactly what needs to be covered by the media, instead of just following Fox news’ Agenda. Go Gay Mormons! My ears are already deaf because of all the mental cases on TV

  3. Just the Facts, no bloviating says

    Marriage reflects the natural moral and social law evidenced the world over. As the late British social anthropologist Joseph Daniel Unwin noted in his study of world civilizations, any society that devalued the nuclear family soon lost what he called “expansive energy,” which might best be summarized as society’s will to make things better for the next generation. In fact, no society that has loosened sexual morality outside of man-woman marriage has survived.

    Analyzing studies of cultures spanning several thousands of years on several continents, Harvard sociologist Pitirim Sorokin found that virtually all political revolutions that brought about societal collapse were preceded by a sexual revolution in which marriage and family were devalued by the culture’s acceptance of homosexuality.

    When marriage loses its unique status, women and children most frequently are the direct victims. Giving same-sex relationships or out-of-wedlock heterosexual couples the same special status and benefits as the marital bond would not be the expansion of a right but the destruction of a principle. . If the one-man/one-woman definition of marriage is broken, there is no logical stopping point for continuing the assault on marriage.

  4. Just the Facts, no bloviating says

    If feelings are the key requirement, then why not let three people marry, or two adults and a child, or consenting blood relatives of any age? . Marriage-based kinship is essential to stability and continuity in our state. Child abuse is much more prevalent when a living arrangement is not based on kinship. Kinship imparts family names, heritage, and property, secures the identity and commitment of fathers for the sake of the children, and entails mutual obligations to the community.

    The US Supreme Court declared in 1885 that states’ marriage laws must be based on “the idea of the family, as consisting in and springing from the union for life of one man and one woman in the holy estate of matrimony; the sure foundation of all that is stable and noble in our civilization, the best guaranty of that reverent morality which is the source of all beneficent progress in social and political improvement.”

  5. DairyQueen says

    @ Just the Facts, no bloviating: Thanks for the misinformation. So by what you are stating, adopted children that are not adopted by their “kinship” are doomed? What do you say about anti-interacial marriage laws? How about women being property of their husband and not as an equal?
    Please Maggie or Brian go troll to another website where people care about what you are stating.

  6. Andres says

    @Just the Facts, no bloviating: A “copy and paste” response from the “copy and paste” narrow-minded. You can find this same response pasted on countless sites.

    Canned responses like these show nothing more than the sheer fear of some people that the world may be more than the religious-taught simple dichotomy. The copy and paste lemming way of life feel so much simpler. It requires exactly 0.5 brain cells to do.

  7. patrick nyc says

    JUST THE FACTS, if gay marriage ends your life, I’m willing to take the risk. Go fuck off douche bag.

  8. ELI says

    Andres is correct. Just the Facts, no bloviating has copied and pasted this lie all over the web. Just the Facts, no bloviating has to use the little known British social anthropologist Joseph Daniel Unwin to spread its lie of the GLBT communities and ignores little facts like Mr. Unwin’s belief that women and minorities should have no rights what so ever. And that’s because “just the facts” obviously shares the belief that women and other minorities like Gays and Blacks do not deserve any rights what so ever. That’s why it has to quote people that where born more than a century and half ago. It’s posters like “just the fact” that desperately wants all Gays exterminated.

  9. Randy Novak says

    Why does any homosexual want to “reconcile” with the hateful, bigoted LDS? Gay mormons, gay catholics, gay scientologists, it’s all the same superstitious nonsense. If you want to honor gay mormons who’ve killed themselves, perhaps you ought to work to RESCUE young gay mormons by telling them the truth. Reconciliation with one’s abuser is futile, and it’s a coward’s solution.

  10. TANK says

    That’s a good question. Why would they want to reconcile. Well, sky cake’s delicious to humans, and that applies to gay people just as much as it does anyone else. Gay americans are brainwashed from the cradle, too–to have a belief in belief (that it’s GOOD to believe in god or “tailspin” or disney…). It’s hard for them because they’re all memed out. ANd the key thing here is that one of hte organizers explicitly said that they have no intention of even trying to get them to change a policy…it’s too bad–I feel sorry for them, raised and indoctrinated (brainwashed) but the mormon cult.

  11. Gary says

    Here’s some facts for Just The Facts:

    1) Joe Smith was an adulterer and a polygamist who liked little girls. His harem included a thirteen year old and a set of fifteen year old twins (eat your heart out, Hugh Hefner).

    2) The doctrine of Celestial Marriage still stands, even though civil authorities can no longer sanctify it. This doctrine states that a man must have a multiplicity of wives in order to get to the better neighborhoods in heaven, and once there, only those wives who have pleased him enough to be called along will go with him. He’ll get to be god of his own planet, and he and his wives will create new souls by fucking like divine bunnies. Mormons tell you that they no longer have polygamy, but that’s what temple weddings are all about, and that’s why non-Mormons can’t attend.

    3) The Mormons have a long history of virulent racism that was only recently overcome by the discovery that brown people in foreign countries have lots of money. The penalty for mixed-race marriage, declared by Brigham Young, was death.

    4) Mormons outside of Salt Lake City still cling to the tradition of marrying off underage girls to older, wealthier relatives.

    5) The three witnesses, whose testimonies are printed in the front of the Book of Mormon, all later recanted, saying they never actually saw Smith’s gold tablets.

    6) Far from being lynched by “gentiles”, as Mormon mythology has it, an armed Joseph Smith, Jr. was killed in a two-way gun battle in the jail where he was being held for trial on bank fraud. The people he defrauded were other Mormons.

    Real classy religion you got there, Just For Facts. Your family values impress the hell out of me. Now go back to your Elders at the missionary school, who put you up to your cut and paste job, and tell them to come see me if they want to dispute anything I’ve written. You can come and watch me kick their asses with their own public documents.

  12. ButWhatever says


    You have your facts about core Mormon beliefs quite wrong. Lying about publicly verifiable beliefs is not the way to prove a point.

    I have friends within the church who are far more trustworthy than you; I know that every single one of your points is pure fiction. I frown upon you misrepresenting them hatefully.

    I suggest you stick to attacking Mormons on their position, as falsifying facts will only degrade your own. Better yet, try reading their church documents on your own, instead of inventing your own and attributing them to the Mormons.

  13. 1♥ says

    Are you suggesting that the Mormon scriptures are indeed fact? That the golden tablets really exist? That J. Smith really had visitations from Moses and Abraham?
    How to you justify people believing in scriptures that are a lie? And they are a lie because Moses and Abraham never existed. J. Smith did marry those young girls didn’t he? How do you justify that and people following such a man as a leader?

  14. Michael says

    Hey, gay Mormons. The Mormons are very extremely dangerous people. Listen. Do not bother them. They are high stakes. Do not risk your lives by coming or make some petitions to Mormons. Okay, I am warning and letting you know. Do not come and approach to them. Okay, they are extremely homophobic. Why will you risk your lives? Come to Jesus Christ, and make a deal with Him and pray to Him and accept Jesus Christ as your Savior and Lord and come to Him for he is the source of life and repent of yours sins because Jesus loves you. You do not have to be gay or have to marry. Come to Jesus. You do not have to follow a cult or a false church. Because the bible says, if a man come to preach to you a different gospel that we teach and a different Christ, then anathema is a man. So, listen to me and you will thank me. I want to see you in heaven and reunite with you and be with Jesus. Come to Jesus and accept Jesus as the Savior and that’s it. Follow Jesus and be clean and pure like me. I invite you to follow Jesus and remain celibate and marry with Jesus Christ and with me.