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DC Cardinal Says Catholic Church Won't Evaluate DADT

The archbishop of Washington, Cardinal Donald Wuerl, made an appearnace on "Fox News Sunday" to discuss "don't ask, don't tell," marriage and the Catholic Church. When asked about the repeal of DADT, he responded that this was something that the Church would not look into.

Dc "That is a question that has to be worked out politically. And there isn't a specific Catholic Church position but whatever happens, it has to be seen in terms of the church's teaching position. And that is, human sexuality is something that is supposed to be exercised responsibly and within the context of marriage."

"What the church is concerned about and what it brings to this debate, this discussion, are two realities. One, the understanding the long, long teaching of the church that every human being is worthy of respect. Then you also have to take the rest of the Gospel message, the rest of Jesus's message that human sexuality has a purpose. And this is not for simply personal satisfaction. Human sexuality has to be seen in the context of the great gift of love, marriage, family."

"We want to be able to work with everybody and to continue to serve as we do, everybody. And so when we are asked to redefine marriage, we can't do that. ... If you change that definition and then insist that we now follow a new definition, we're going to be limited.

After marriage equality came to Washington, DC earlier this year, Wuerl decided to end the archdiocese's foster care program rather than issue licenses to same-sex couples.

And what does he think about the way in which the Catholic Church dealt with its continuing sexual abuse scandal?

"I think it's one of the great accomplishments of the church. It recognized there was a serious problem. It dealt with it forthright and then moved on to see that we're in a much, much better place, a much safer place today."

Watch the interview, AFTER THE JUMP.



 

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  1. "One, the understanding the long, long teaching of the church that every human being is worthy of respect."

    Yeah, "long, long"... since, uh, well, hasn't really happened yet. 1000+ years of ostracism, imprisonment, and -- dare I use the term -- martydom.

    Posted by: BobN | Dec 26, 2010 8:54:34 PM


  2. Their response to the raping of altar boys was "one of the great accomplishments of the church"? Wow. That statement is astounding.

    How anyone can give the Catholic church any kind of moral authority after ignoring, denying, and abetting child rape is beyond me.

    FYI, when the fork was invented, the Catholic church was against that as well. We will get our full rights despite them.

    (This is not a statement against Catholics, many of whom disagree with the head church's opinions on this and many other issues, but against the church leadership.)

    Posted by: isaacben | Dec 26, 2010 9:07:46 PM


  3. Telling lies isn't very Christian...but then what would they know about Christianity....they seem to re-write it day in - day out. When talking about Jesus and sexuality, he most likely is referring to Matthew 19....but the fact is Jesus was referring to divorce between a man and a woman, not homosexuality. If they didn't fight marriage so much, most gays would have sex within the confines of marriage as he proposes. The Catholic church wants it's cake and eat it, too. Sounds like hubris to me; a definite sin--a whole church built on a sin.....shame, shame, shame.

    Posted by: woodroad34d | Dec 26, 2010 9:13:17 PM


  4. if sex abuse is an accomplishment god knows they would consider a failure? do these people
    listen to what they are saying ? it is better to stop helping children and the poor than acknowledge gay people rights.

    Posted by: walter | Dec 26, 2010 9:28:58 PM


  5. Indeed it's "one of the great accomplishments of the church" that it managed to keep so many child-rapists shielded from justice for so long.

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Dec 26, 2010 10:15:35 PM



  6. "When asked about the repeal of DADT, he responded that this was something that the Church would not look into." Good its got nothing to do with them

    Posted by: Stephen | Dec 26, 2010 10:32:13 PM


  7. @Bobn: You make a good point. A long history of respect for every human? It was only in the 1990's that they finally "forgave" Copernicus for saying the earth was round and revolved around the sun. They victimized left-handed people until the time of generations living today. They authorized the murder of millions of innocent people during the Inqusistion.
    I have yet to see this era of respect even begin, let alone any idea of a "long" history.

    @Woodroad34d:
    Indeed, Jesus didn't make a big deal over sexuality.
    He spoke against RE-marriage in the verse you mentioned. He suggested people should look in their hearts to try to accept the sexual-minority eunuchs as fellow human beings. He said words that implied that a loving kiss from one man to another was meaningful and needed.
    Not a word directly critical of homosexuality, gay individuals or same-sex couples.

    These church hierarchies rarely pay as much attention to what Jesus actually taught than they do to the political ideologies they've internalized.

    Posted by: GregV | Dec 26, 2010 10:37:11 PM


  8. I'm so happy to be living in the digital age. Long after he has forgotten this interview, his words will be preserved for an appropriate time in the future when he can be called to account for them.

    Posted by: loki7329 | Dec 26, 2010 10:43:25 PM


  9. How stupid of me! I thought all of those people that were burned at the stake, tortured, and otherwise executed during the Inquisition were one of the Catholic Church's great accomplishments.

    Posted by: homer | Dec 26, 2010 10:48:10 PM


  10. That ranks right up their with the Crusades and the Inquisition.

    Posted by: niles | Dec 27, 2010 1:00:34 AM


  11. That statement of accomplishment ranks along with today's other fairy-tales of Catholic morality: http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2010/the-church-and-her-bishops-have-a-heightened-moral-responsibility/

    Posted by: Mike | Dec 27, 2010 1:32:26 AM


  12. So what did Pope Benedict XVI have to say about the Church's little pedophilia problem in his Christmas message? Did he mention it all? You know, like maybe apologize or something?

    Not exactly.

    He did say "we cannot remain silent about the context of these times in which these events have come to light," citing the growth of child pornography "that seems in some way to be considered more and more normal by society."

    So it was because child pornography was considered normal, inside the Vatican at least, that pedophilia was tolerated?

    Not exactly.

    According to the Pope, "in the 1970's, pedophilia was theorized as something fully in conformity with with man and even with children."

    Yes, he actually said that. It's on the Vatican website translated into several different languages. I'm quoting from the Vatican's official English language translation.

    It's good to be Pope. You get to say what's a sin and what's not a sin. Apparently pedophilia wasn't a sin until recently. Therefore, transferring known pedophiles from one parish to another wasn't a bad idea. They were just spreading the joy.

    http://www.bishop-accountability.org/

    Don't forget that it was Cardinal Ratzinger, then Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, who sent out a secret letter to all Catholic bishops in May 2003 ordering them to not report clerical sex abuse to the local civil authorities. That was a matter that was under the exclusive jurisdiction of the Church, according to Ratzinger, the future Pope Benedict XVI.

    Posted by: Ninong | Dec 27, 2010 1:43:31 AM


  13. I forgot to add a link to the Pope's Christmas message that contained the above quotes. I can't find the Vatican link right now, but here's a complete official English version. It was actually his Christmas Greeting to Curia, delivered Dec. 20, 2010: http://www.zenit.org/article-31289?l=english

    As you can see, it's rather wordy.

    Posted by: Ninong | Dec 27, 2010 2:09:39 AM


  14. 'According to the Pope, "in the 1970's, pedophilia was theorized as something fully in conformity with with man and even with children."'

    Yes, Mr. Pope, by a handful of people, among whom one of the most outspoken and well known was a Catholic priest.

    Posted by: BobN | Dec 27, 2010 3:33:52 AM


  15. Catholic church is the biggest cult of them all. "Drink your wine young boy because I have something to show you." Respect doesn't have people running around trying to hide rape like the Almighty Pope is doing.

    Posted by: Skooter McGoo | Dec 27, 2010 4:43:38 AM


  16. "I'm so happy to be living in the digital age. Long after he has forgotten this interview, his words will be preserved for an appropriate time in the future when he can be called to account for them."

    Similarly to how Ratzinger's membership in the Hitler Youth program was excused away so he could become Pope.

    Posted by: darkmoonman | Dec 27, 2010 5:02:02 AM


  17. LOL. with all the shameful deeds that the churches "fathers" do, why is the Catholic church even commenting? lol.

    Posted by: Joe | Dec 27, 2010 5:38:13 AM


  18. It must be very comforting to these holier-than-thou skirted-men to live safely within the Papist bubble. Their relationship with the reality of Papist parishoners is non-existent. What these church men know of the real world -- let alone preach about the true teachings of Christ -- is nil, zip, nada. IMHO, the Catholic Church promotes one of the worst religious doctrines on Earth!

    Posted by: HadenoughBS | Dec 27, 2010 7:26:12 AM


  19. When someone says that the pedophile priest problem is one of the greatest accomplishments of the Catholic Church, it's time for every Catholic that believe in both Jesus and common sense (they aren't antithetical) to stand up and walk out. Everything else this man said has to be judge against that MASSIVE rationalization and lie.

    And as far as the Catholic Church or any other church having to "redefine" marriage...which is another ridiculous misstatement, to call it is "limiting" is just bullshit. If it's anything it's the opposite of limiting. Problem is, it's too large for the Catholic church to control, and they are about anything they are about control.

    I think every person who considers him/herself a Catholic and financially supports this organization should ask themselves one question: In any other business, in any other social/religious organization, in ANY OTHER WAY, would you allow you or your family to be led by a private club of sexually-deprived/weird adult males who live communally, do things secretly and live a life that is nothing like your own in any way?

    If the honest answer is no, then you have your answer about where the Catholic church should be in your life...in the past.

    Posted by: BartB | Dec 27, 2010 8:15:17 AM


  20. If they address the military's repeal of DADT, they'd also have to address the military's violation of that pesky little THOU SHALT NOT KILL thing.

    Posted by: Roscoe | Dec 27, 2010 8:56:14 AM


  21. Laughter is the best medicine for sick fools as these:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k

    The shame of the catholic church is FOREVER.

    Posted by: tellit | Dec 27, 2010 9:12:24 AM


  22. I'm surprised the DC head of NAMBLA has no opinion on Don't Ask Don't Tell.

    May god have mercy on the wretched soul of this delusional old fool.

    Posted by: justiceontherocks | Dec 27, 2010 9:13:43 AM


  23. Imagine a world with out religious ideology whose sole purpose is to divide and conquer...religion has done so much ill will to society yet with the brain washing of old geezers like above...SOME still buy into the fairy tale stories to give them hope of an after life.

    Posted by: Daddolfe | Dec 27, 2010 9:40:12 AM


  24. The Catholic church is about power,control, and most of all....money. If you have ever been to the the vast warehouses of priceless treasures(gold,tapestries,paintings,statues etc..)you would understand quite well the hypocrisies of this institution. That they conspired with the Mormon church in the 20 million dollar defeat of Ca. same sex marriage is a drop in the bucket when looking at their humanitarian aide.

    Posted by: Frank | Dec 27, 2010 10:57:10 AM


  25. We need to PROTEST in their churches. We won't win until we ruin their business.

    Get Angry to GetEqual. Give today.

    Posted by: Activate | Dec 27, 2010 11:59:53 AM


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