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  1. BobN says

    “One, the understanding the long, long teaching of the church that every human being is worthy of respect.”

    Yeah, “long, long”… since, uh, well, hasn’t really happened yet. 1000+ years of ostracism, imprisonment, and — dare I use the term — martydom.

  2. isaacben says

    Their response to the raping of altar boys was “one of the great accomplishments of the church”? Wow. That statement is astounding.

    How anyone can give the Catholic church any kind of moral authority after ignoring, denying, and abetting child rape is beyond me.

    FYI, when the fork was invented, the Catholic church was against that as well. We will get our full rights despite them.

    (This is not a statement against Catholics, many of whom disagree with the head church’s opinions on this and many other issues, but against the church leadership.)

  3. woodroad34d says

    Telling lies isn’t very Christian…but then what would they know about Christianity….they seem to re-write it day in – day out. When talking about Jesus and sexuality, he most likely is referring to Matthew 19….but the fact is Jesus was referring to divorce between a man and a woman, not homosexuality. If they didn’t fight marriage so much, most gays would have sex within the confines of marriage as he proposes. The Catholic church wants it’s cake and eat it, too. Sounds like hubris to me; a definite sin–a whole church built on a sin…..shame, shame, shame.

  4. walter says

    if sex abuse is an accomplishment god knows they would consider a failure? do these people
    listen to what they are saying ? it is better to stop helping children and the poor than acknowledge gay people rights.

  5. Stephen says

    “When asked about the repeal of DADT, he responded that this was something that the Church would not look into.” Good its got nothing to do with them

  6. GregV says

    @Bobn: You make a good point. A long history of respect for every human? It was only in the 1990’s that they finally “forgave” Copernicus for saying the earth was round and revolved around the sun. They victimized left-handed people until the time of generations living today. They authorized the murder of millions of innocent people during the Inqusistion.
    I have yet to see this era of respect even begin, let alone any idea of a “long” history.

    @Woodroad34d:
    Indeed, Jesus didn’t make a big deal over sexuality.
    He spoke against RE-marriage in the verse you mentioned. He suggested people should look in their hearts to try to accept the sexual-minority eunuchs as fellow human beings. He said words that implied that a loving kiss from one man to another was meaningful and needed.
    Not a word directly critical of homosexuality, gay individuals or same-sex couples.

    These church hierarchies rarely pay as much attention to what Jesus actually taught than they do to the political ideologies they’ve internalized.

  7. loki7329 says

    I’m so happy to be living in the digital age. Long after he has forgotten this interview, his words will be preserved for an appropriate time in the future when he can be called to account for them.

  8. says

    How stupid of me! I thought all of those people that were burned at the stake, tortured, and otherwise executed during the Inquisition were one of the Catholic Church’s great accomplishments.

  9. Ninong says

    So what did Pope Benedict XVI have to say about the Church’s little pedophilia problem in his Christmas message? Did he mention it all? You know, like maybe apologize or something?

    Not exactly.

    He did say “we cannot remain silent about the context of these times in which these events have come to light,” citing the growth of child pornography “that seems in some way to be considered more and more normal by society.”

    So it was because child pornography was considered normal, inside the Vatican at least, that pedophilia was tolerated?

    Not exactly.

    According to the Pope, “in the 1970’s, pedophilia was theorized as something fully in conformity with with man and even with children.”

    Yes, he actually said that. It’s on the Vatican website translated into several different languages. I’m quoting from the Vatican’s official English language translation.

    It’s good to be Pope. You get to say what’s a sin and what’s not a sin. Apparently pedophilia wasn’t a sin until recently. Therefore, transferring known pedophiles from one parish to another wasn’t a bad idea. They were just spreading the joy.

    http://www.bishop-accountability.org/

    Don’t forget that it was Cardinal Ratzinger, then Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, who sent out a secret letter to all Catholic bishops in May 2003 ordering them to not report clerical sex abuse to the local civil authorities. That was a matter that was under the exclusive jurisdiction of the Church, according to Ratzinger, the future Pope Benedict XVI.

  10. Ninong says

    I forgot to add a link to the Pope’s Christmas message that contained the above quotes. I can’t find the Vatican link right now, but here’s a complete official English version. It was actually his Christmas Greeting to Curia, delivered Dec. 20, 2010: http://www.zenit.org/article-31289?l=english

    As you can see, it’s rather wordy.

  11. BobN says

    ‘According to the Pope, “in the 1970’s, pedophilia was theorized as something fully in conformity with with man and even with children.”‘

    Yes, Mr. Pope, by a handful of people, among whom one of the most outspoken and well known was a Catholic priest.

  12. Skooter McGoo says

    Catholic church is the biggest cult of them all. “Drink your wine young boy because I have something to show you.” Respect doesn’t have people running around trying to hide rape like the Almighty Pope is doing.

  13. darkmoonman says

    “I’m so happy to be living in the digital age. Long after he has forgotten this interview, his words will be preserved for an appropriate time in the future when he can be called to account for them.”

    Similarly to how Ratzinger’s membership in the Hitler Youth program was excused away so he could become Pope.

  14. says

    LOL. with all the shameful deeds that the churches “fathers” do, why is the Catholic church even commenting? lol.

  15. HadenoughBS says

    It must be very comforting to these holier-than-thou skirted-men to live safely within the Papist bubble. Their relationship with the reality of Papist parishoners is non-existent. What these church men know of the real world — let alone preach about the true teachings of Christ — is nil, zip, nada. IMHO, the Catholic Church promotes one of the worst religious doctrines on Earth!

  16. BartB says

    When someone says that the pedophile priest problem is one of the greatest accomplishments of the Catholic Church, it’s time for every Catholic that believe in both Jesus and common sense (they aren’t antithetical) to stand up and walk out. Everything else this man said has to be judge against that MASSIVE rationalization and lie.

    And as far as the Catholic Church or any other church having to “redefine” marriage…which is another ridiculous misstatement, to call it is “limiting” is just bullshit. If it’s anything it’s the opposite of limiting. Problem is, it’s too large for the Catholic church to control, and they are about anything they are about control.

    I think every person who considers him/herself a Catholic and financially supports this organization should ask themselves one question: In any other business, in any other social/religious organization, in ANY OTHER WAY, would you allow you or your family to be led by a private club of sexually-deprived/weird adult males who live communally, do things secretly and live a life that is nothing like your own in any way?

    If the honest answer is no, then you have your answer about where the Catholic church should be in your life…in the past.

  17. says

    If they address the military’s repeal of DADT, they’d also have to address the military’s violation of that pesky little THOU SHALT NOT KILL thing.

  18. tellit says

    Laughter is the best medicine for sick fools as these:

    The shame of the catholic church is FOREVER.

  19. justiceontherocks says

    I’m surprised the DC head of NAMBLA has no opinion on Don’t Ask Don’t Tell.

    May god have mercy on the wretched soul of this delusional old fool.

  20. Daddolfe says

    Imagine a world with out religious ideology whose sole purpose is to divide and conquer…religion has done so much ill will to society yet with the brain washing of old geezers like above…SOME still buy into the fairy tale stories to give them hope of an after life.

  21. Frank says

    The Catholic church is about power,control, and most of all….money. If you have ever been to the the vast warehouses of priceless treasures(gold,tapestries,paintings,statues etc..)you would understand quite well the hypocrisies of this institution. That they conspired with the Mormon church in the 20 million dollar defeat of Ca. same sex marriage is a drop in the bucket when looking at their humanitarian aide.

  22. Activate says

    We need to PROTEST in their churches. We won’t win until we ruin their business.

    Get Angry to GetEqual. Give today.

  23. Brad says

    My first reaction is: Who give a flying F*(% what the Catholic Church thinks of DADT. You don’t want to know why I think of the Catholic Church, because I wouldn’t be able to keep my language clean.

  24. Tom says

    Let’s remember that this is a member of the Catholic hierarchy speaking, and as such, he is mandated to parrot the official line of the Vatican, regardless of what he may think personally about the issues. This man got to where he is by kissing the posteriors of the popes and of various other eminences in the Vatican down through the many years of his career. He is not about to voice an opinion which in any way contradicts the Catholic party line. Therefore, we can only expect the usual Catholic double talk, and not any kind of honesty from him. Sad, very, very sad!