New CPAC Leader Already Turning Back On GOProud

"I think there's a couple people in Heritage who, at the behest of Cleta Mitchell – who is just a nasty bigot … she got some of the people at Heritage early on fired up about this," Barron said in the interview, which was published this week.

Barron has since apologized, telling FrumForum, "For the past six months, we have watched as unfair and untrue attacks have been leveled against our organization, our allies, our friends and sometimes even their families."

He continued, "Everyone has their breaking point and clearly in my interview with Metro Weekly I had reached mine. I shouldn’t have used the language that I did to describe Cleta Mitchell and for that I apologize."

An apology may not be good enough to sooth over tensions, though, because Cardenas doesn't seem that into the idea of gay inclusion, anyway.

"[Keene] invited these folks in an effort to be inclusive," Cardenas explained."Having friends of ours leaving… presents difficulties to me. There’s always going to be some tension, [but] there should never be any tension between time-tested values.”

Cardenas also insisted true blue conservatives can't support marriage equality: "Not a Ronald Reagan conservative… I will say this: we adopted a resolution unanimously at ACU advocating traditional marriage between a man and a woman, so that answers how we feel on the issue."

If Cardenas has already come out against GOProud, their future relationship with CPAC looks pretty grim.

Comments

  1. Luminum says

    I guess that starts to answer the question, “When the chips are down, who will the Conservatives choose? Conservative gays or the religious nutjobs who will continue to support heterosexual conservatives’ homophobia with poor science?”

    A pity.

  2. TampaZeke says

    This is the anti-gay version of “uppidy n*ggers causing trouble”.

    How can anyone not see the similarities between homophobia and racism?

  3. bobbyjoe says

    Seriously, GOProud, there are easier (and more enjoyable) ways to be a driveling boot-licking masochist than trolling for places like CPAC and Ann Coulter to constantly use you, humiliate you, and publicly abuse you. Like, find a nice, hot leather daddy with a dungeon. I’m just sayin’.

  4. BobN says

    Shorter version: “We won’t work with those perverts if they don’t stop calling people names.”

  5. dms says

    Instead of trying to change the republicans from the inside out–which will never, ever happen–why not work as dems and try to change them from the inside out?

    It just seems sad for them to try and change something that is not only not changeable, but hates them for who they are.

  6. ravewulf says

    “taunting organizations [hate groups] that are respected in our movement and part of our movement”

    There you have it. CPAC leader says hate groups are a respected part of the conservative/GOP movement.

    No self respecting lgbt or lgbt supporter should ever support them, vote for them, contribute to them, or defend them. END OF DISCUSSION.

  7. TANK says

    This is getting way too much attention. I don’t understand the thrill, and all the predictable responses to these idiots. And CPAC? Oy…yeah, that really matters.

  8. Adrian says

    @Ravewulf,

    I was about to say the same thing. Best for GOProud to stay away. Wait for CPAC to distance itself from these hate groups. That may take decades, though.

  9. says

    Republicans have allowed themselves to be hijacked by the radical religious right. They will never have any credibility unless they distance themselves from these theocrats. Therefore, GOProud will never be a part of any conservative political movement, and the way that they’ve slammed their progressive brothers in arms, they will never be a part of the progressive political movement. They’ve made their proverbial bed, and now we all get to watch them lie in it – alone.

  10. NY2.0 says

    Cry me a river!

    GOProud deserves no sympathy what so ever. They are not concerned about gay rights in the least, just their bank accounts. They will humiliate themselves just to show “those gay liberals” their “independence.” They will campaign to get rid of gay friendly democrats if it means more money for themselves.

    GOProud will never realize they’re just the freaky side show of the conservative movement and will never be accepted. They have a lot of self-hate issues. Someone call shrink!

  11. Xtab says

    I like watching news about gay conservative groups in my own sort of sadomasochistic way. It’s bizarre, kind of perverse, and a lot of fun.

    And I support them. I’m disturbed by other commenters who say that conservatives can never change. Those commenters, though they believe themselves to be progressives, sound very conservative! I believe progressivism is about change and progress, and that all people can change for the better if they think rationally and learn to apply critical inquiry.

    And I believe that visibility and coming out is one of the best ways to achieve this for gays. If GOProud is just there, then hopefully more reasonable straight conservatives (yes, they exist) will realize that there’s nothing to be bothered about and that gay people are just normal people like them. It’s possible. It’s already happened in Western Europe, where conservative parties have embraced gays and win their votes more than the liberal parties do, and that’s made the lives of gay people better.

  12. Xtab says

    And to prove it, just the fact that GOProud has a booth at CPAC is a sign that conservatives are capable of change. We’ll see if it lasts! But twenty years ago it would have been out of the question.

  13. Zach says

    “And to prove it, just the fact that GOProud has a booth at CPAC is a sign that conservatives are capable of change.”

    No it isn’t; the LCR had been tactily welcomed since at least Bob Dole’s campaign in ’95. Hell, before religious mania started really gripping the United States in the early 80s, gays were relatively tolerated within the Republican Party.

    And that’s the fundamental mistake underlying GOProud, and it’s an amusing mistake for a conservative organization to make. Gay Republicans assume that there will be progress on certain civil rights issues, even while they embrace a regressive mandate as a whole. And even the ones in GOProud who are less ambitious – the ones who are primarily interested in tax cuts and hating on liberals for hate’s sake – are going to be openly attacked by conservative leaders to an increasing frequency. Because the more change that progressives and sensible gay conservatives make (and there are sensible gay conservatives – they’re the ones who realize that the Republican Party has no place for them), the more reactionary the Republican establishment will be, if only to boost their credentials and retain the social conservative rump.

  14. arch says

    Some of the most vividly right wing people I know are gay, both out and closeted.

    Reconciling right wing economic and social views with gay orientation was always going to be difficult when the GOP had been hijacked thirty years ago by the religeous right.

    It is interesting watching these gay reps try but to be honest one fears that htey are fighting a lost battle. The GOP hierachy knows that to maintain its mass support base (necessary in a functioning democracy) it needs popularist vote winners like the chritian right and Tea Party crowd.

    Most of the rich blue bloods running the GOP couldn’t care less about who people sleep with, frankly all they case about is money and power, but if gay bashing is what keeps the little folk voting for their party then they will keep in with the religeous and social conservatives and that means showing the gays the door.

  15. Chitown Kev says

    Good thread and great comments.

    @Tampazeke- Pretty much.

    But I’m still of the mind that GOProud are useful idiots, though

  16. Sarina says

    This is what happens when you choose to be a part of an association, which thrives on hating who you are.

  17. Xtab says

    Well it looks like GOProud was a big hit at CPAC.

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/category/contentions

    “Most of the buzz leading up to CPAC was over the battle between gay conservative group GOProud and social conservative organizations. But once the conference got underway, the atmosphere was largely supportive of the gay political group.

    While plenty of speakers on the main stage reaffirmed the conservative movement’s support for traditional values, GOProud dominated the conversation among conference-goers: it brought Donald Trump, hosted a packed party with Andrew Breitbart that also drew former RNC Michael Steele, and its table in the co-sponsors’ room was swamped with well-wishers for much of the first day.”

  18. ant says

    it’s like the attack on the WTC, or no wmd’s in iraq: CPAC tossing their show queers off the bus – who could have predicted that?

  19. jamal49 says

    Poor Chris. His jaw must be pretty tightly clenched right now. Um, Chrissie? They don’t want you, OK? They’re never going to want you, OK? Now, be a good masochist and crawl your way out the back door.

  20. miami says

    Oh Al what a joke, and just Who is paying you to run CPAC? Al does not work for cheap. Oh Al does your law firm, where u are the chief Rainmakes, also apply use bigoted policies in employment? There are banned in Miami-Dade county you know… But of course, no one would ever think to cross big AL and the rest of the Mafia in Miami. What a joke GOProud is too, they made a new organization because as they admit themselves 1 they needed jobs after log cabins went broke and fired everyone, and 2 they all want to be rich and are otherwise too lazy to really work for money- see reason 1.