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French Parliament Rejects Same-Sex Marriage in 293-222 Vote

France's parliament has rejected a Socialist Party proposition to legalize same-sex marriage in a vote of 293-222, the AP reports:

FranceSupporters say it is needed to bring France into line with nearby countries like Spain, Belgium and the Netherlands, which have already legalized gay marriage.

Earlier this year, France's highest court ruled that laws banning gay marriage don't violate the constitution.

Opposition to the bill was led by President Nicolas Sarkozy's conservative party UMP, AFP adds:

"We are against homophobia but we do not want to alter the image and function of marriage in the collective subconscious," said UMP lawmaker Michel Diefenbacher.

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  1. Mon dieu!

    Posted by: Andre | Jun 14, 2011 12:34:24 PM


  2. Guess "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" means nothing to these French people who think they are accepting.

    Posted by: brenda | Jun 14, 2011 12:41:04 PM


  3. Boycott Paris Boycott France Boycott Sarkozy's Underpants.

    Posted by: kodiak | Jun 14, 2011 12:42:31 PM


  4. Shame on France! The country that considers itself a leader in human rights! Shame on France!

    Posted by: James in BCN | Jun 14, 2011 12:43:03 PM


  5. We are against homophobia..............except when we're for it.

    They don't have the defense of "the public doesn't want it" either. Since around 60% in France accept marriage equality as something they desire to see happen.

    Really, what does this come down to? Conservatives in power. Conservatives by and large do not like us. Time to fight fire with fire.

    Posted by: Francis | Jun 14, 2011 12:46:49 PM


  6. not surprising, since the right has a solid majority the legislature. it was a foregone conclusion too, brought up by the left for electoralist goals, nothing more. they were in power in the early 2000s and watched as others around them passed marriage laws. i am so disgusted by these politicians playing with my rights; it's sad it has to come to this but i'll probably be a single issue voter next year when sarkozy faces his opponents.

    Posted by: daftpunkydavid | Jun 14, 2011 12:50:32 PM


  7. Liberté, égalité, fraternité, but not for gay.

    Posted by: DC | Jun 14, 2011 12:51:24 PM


  8. I'm French from a long line of French ancestors. There is a mountain and a lake named after our surname because my relatives (two of whom were gay brothers who owned a winery in Chantilly) hid their French Jewish farm workers in the deep recessed caves of the mountain (where the wine/champagne was fermented) when the Gernmans invaded France during WWII. When the war was over the French government renamed the lake and mountain to honor the risk my relatives took in saving their neighbors. I'm very proud of that.

    BUT ... I am angry with the French Government over their refusal to grant gay people equal rights in marriage and encourage all gay people to boycott France in all things, from commerce to tourism. Buy nothing and visit only those European countries who treat gay people with equality.

    Posted by: OS2Guy | Jun 14, 2011 1:01:51 PM


  9. : DAFTPUNKYDAVID

    Didn't they pass civil unions along the same time as the UK? Maybe it wasnt ballsy of the left BUT like in the UK,we have a very conservative country.

    Posted by: Rowan | Jun 14, 2011 1:05:10 PM


  10. F sarkozy & his party BUT euro conservatives are far more liberal than US cons on many issues

    blah

    Posted by: Mstrozfckslv | Jun 14, 2011 1:06:50 PM


  11. Arthur Rimbaud, Marcel Proust, Jean Cocteau, Jean Genet, Patrice Chereau, Christophe Honore -- France practically INVENTED Teh Ghey.

    Clearly Sarko isn't French.

    Deport him.

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Jun 14, 2011 1:14:44 PM


  12. France got civil unions in 1999 - 6 years before Britain. What I like about French civil unions is that they are available to both gay and straight couples. But I completely fail to understand why non-religious France won't extend civil marriage to same-sex couples.

    Posted by: SteveC | Jun 14, 2011 1:25:22 PM


  13. They really must preserve the sanctity of French marriage in the collective subconscious. After all, it has such a sterling and untarnished reputation, as we are witnessing in New York.

    Posted by: MacroT | Jun 14, 2011 1:27:24 PM


  14. Having Nicolas Sarkozy lecture us about the sanctity of marriage is preposterous.

    Posted by: The Milkman | Jun 14, 2011 1:36:23 PM


  15. I agree with Francis and others who urge that we focus our frustration over this news not on the French but on the conservatives who rule their country. That is the problem.

    Posted by: Patric | Jun 14, 2011 1:38:16 PM


  16. Disappointed, but not surprised. Sad news anyway.

    Posted by: Matt26 | Jun 14, 2011 1:46:13 PM


  17. The problem with the French PACS is that it doesn't even offer the same rights as marriage. Especially when it comes to children.

    Posted by: Steve | Jun 14, 2011 2:19:10 PM


  18. SSM has suffered a few setbacks in Europe.

    - The European Ct. of Human Rights held that the European Charter does not mandate immediate marriage equality if civil unions are offered.

    - As noted above, the French court rejected constitutional claims for SSM under the French constitution

    - The new Hungarian constitution has a DOMA-like provision

    In spite of this, the trend is still good. The outcome in France will change when Sarkozy's party loses the next election, as almost certainly will happen. Until then, since the French PACS are the preferred option for the vast majority of the French, the lack of SSM has much less significance than here in the US.

    And the Hungarian constitutional provision may not survive a challenge in the European Court of Human Rights.

    Posted by: David | Jun 14, 2011 2:29:17 PM


  19. If I had to guess, I would say the French Government (or, the ruling conservative party that is) is not in line with the opinion of the majority of French people on this subject.

    Sarkozy and his conservative party are in power for mainly economic reasons. I really think most French people wish they had a more progressive party in power, when it comes to social, non-economic issues.

    Posted by: Rob | Jun 14, 2011 2:41:17 PM


  20. stevec sarkozy and his cone=servative party are shoring up their conservative base for election time

    simple explanation

    Posted by: Mstrozfckslv | Jun 14, 2011 2:54:35 PM


  21. Francis has it right. Fight fire with fire. That means getting conservatives in office that support gay marriage. Plenty of conservatives do. Gay is not a political agenda. It is a fact of life, and expression of our God-given sexuality is an inalienable right. Choosing a mate is an inalienable right. Privacy is an inalienable right. What could be more private than that? That is a bedrock conservative viewpoint.

    Posted by: ted | Jun 14, 2011 2:55:05 PM


  22. @Rob Actually, the Conservatives are in power more because of the growing presence of Muslims in France and the Socialists refusal to do anything serious about the problem--they now constitute 10% of the population and given their extremely high birth rates and the low birth rates of French women, they could actually become the majority at some point in the next half-century, unless something changes.....and needless to say, if that happened, not only will there be no same-sex marriage in France, but there will be general social anarchy.

    That said, that such a large majority of French legislators voted against same-sex marriage is shocking. Religion is practically non-existent in the country at this point; the Catholic Church has no influence to speak of and is, for all intents and purposes, dead. And the French have always prided themselves not only on their tolerance of minorities, but on having no use at all for traditional ideas of sexual "morality"--I mean, if ever there was a country where anything seems to go, sexually speaking, this is it.....having a mistress is practically a given for male French leaders, for example, and it does not even induce a yawn when they appear with them in public.

    So even with the Conservatives in power, this vote is surprising--I just don't understand it......

    Posted by: Rick | Jun 14, 2011 3:02:20 PM


  23. "they now constitute 10% of the population and given their extremely high birth rates and the low birth rates of French women, they could actually become the majority at some point in the next half-century, unless something changes"

    That's false. French women not issued from immigration have one of the highest birth rate in europe. Your claims are rethoric from extremist right which no one sane in France would take as serious.

    In the next "legislature" same sex marriage will pass, wether right or left governs, because it is overwhelmingly supported in the population (over 70% from the 18-35 yr population for example)

    Posted by: oakpope | Jun 14, 2011 3:13:19 PM


  24. the fathers of France and liberty are turning in their graves....

    Posted by: chris | Jun 14, 2011 3:21:47 PM


  25. Social conservatives are by and large anti-gay. Conservatives are in power in France. Anti-gays have plenty of excuses for being so outside of religion. So nothing is surprising about this IMO, Rick. Also, saying Muslims in France are a "problem" is obviously an extremely broad and discriminatory statement, the only problem would be if these individuals don't assimilate into the French culture and cause issue.

    Also, Ted, you're right, true constitutional conservatives support marriage equality. But we're talking about social conservatives. And really, conservatism in general has been taken over by the social conservative agenda. Voting for marriage equality in the eyes of most, conservative and liberal, makes you anti-conservative. Ultimately, conservatives ARE the ones actively denying us rights through any means possible throughout the world, and they are our biggest foe to defeat in this struggle for equality.

    Posted by: Francis | Jun 14, 2011 3:23:29 PM


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