Reuters: Gay Marriage Foes Deep in Debt, Struggling to Meet Supreme Court Costs, the group defending Proposition 8 before the Supreme Court, is deep in debt and struggling to raise funds to fight that case, not to mention its past debts, Reuters reports:

CooperThe 2012 accounts are not yet available. says it has since covered the 2011 shortfall. However, it is still $700,000 short in fundraising for its Supreme Court costs, according to a attorney, Andrew Pugno. That message has gone out to donors, with some urgency, as the Supreme Court prepares to hear arguments in March in its first thorough review of same-sex marriage.

"Unless the pace of donations starts to pick up right away, we could soon be forced over a financial cliff," said in an email to donors earlier this month.'s lead outside counsel, Charles Cooper, has not stopped work on the Supreme Court case, although he declined to comment on financial arrangements with clients.

Meanwhile, while they are being "vastly outspent" in races around the nation, Pugno tells Reuters that he does not believe that changing attitudes are behind the group's inability to raise funds.

"I don't detect a decrease in enthusiasm. What I detect is a certain degree of fatigue after having to essentially fight this issue non-stop since 2004, when the mayor in San Francisco started issuing marriage licenses."


  1. Alex Parrish says

    No — it couldn’t possibly be that protectmarriage is short on funds because their cause is unpopular and wrong; it must be some other nefarious reason, like, those LGBT folks who control all the money and the economy and are out to get good moral folks like them. Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.

  2. says

    too bad they didn’t spend any of that money to help the families struggling through an economic downturn, eh?

    people who are hungry. people who have no warm place to sleep at night, if any place at all.

    nope. let’s raise funds to stop gays from marrying. congrats. money well wasted.

  3. Gigi says

    “Unless the pace of donations starts to pick up right away, we could soon be forced over a financial cliff…”

    This MADE MY DAY!

  4. woodroad34 says

    “Fatigue”? Fatigue comes when you’re wrong and don’t have the conviction of your beliefs. People get tired of the lies, the bullying, and the basic unfairness of hatred’s cause. As the USSR goes (which also fell apart because the West outspent them), so goes; twin sisters of different monsters.

  5. Lymis says

    Umm… no.

    It’s not that you don’t detect a decrease in enthusiasm. You don’t detect a decrease in bigotry. There’s a big drop in enthusiasm. There’s a difference. Your cash cow won’t last forever.

  6. Anthony says

    I read an article a few years ago that said once same sex marriage reaches majority support (and gay rights in general), the dominoes would start to fall. And we’re seeing that today.

  7. RMc says

    “I don’t detect a decrease in enthusiasm.”

    When the money stops coming in that is usually a sign of decrease in enthusiasm. But Andy Repugnant is to stupid and uneducated to understand that. A rock a smarter than he is.

  8. Chadd says

    You’d think that a God who is capable of creating entire universes with just a spoken word would have no trouble generating a little cash to fighting an issue he (apparently) so desperately hates.

  9. Steve says

    A big problem for them is that they have always relied on a relatively small donor base. Most of their donations are big chunks from a few people.

  10. says

    Sell your houses, sell your cars, and go into debt. Do it to save marriage! Living in a cardboard box under a bridge will totally be worth it if it keeps us evil homos from marrying!

  11. Jeff says

    If you want to live in a cardboard box over marriage be my guest. You’ll just be trading one box for another.

  12. Gestly says

    Hey bigots — we haven’t even BEGUN. We will throw our lives, our souls, our energy and our MONEY at this until you all are relegated to the dustbin of history.

    OH and p.s. we have a few gay billionaires on our side, so the money is NOT a problem and it will not stop. Have fun fighting us bitches, we’re gonna leave you tired, impotent and defeated.

  13. Craig Nelson says

    Maybe NOM could sub them a few hundred thousand.

    I sense another Youtube bunker parody coming – “Wo ist die neunte Armee?”

  14. Jeff says

    You’re right out of central casting Gestly. No re-write required on your character. Maybe too cliche though. He’ll wind up divorced. Hope he marries one of those billionaires.

  15. Burt says

    The Mormons are surprisingly quiet about all this. I’m surprised there hasn’t been a surge in donations as a result of a call from their ‘prophet’. Maybe they were stung a bit hard in the original prop 8 fight and are now shy..

  16. Sammy says

    @Burt – The Mormons have seen the debacle of Prop 8 for what it was, the worst kind of PR for their church. You’re correct, they’re shy.

  17. Francis says

    The hate train is dying. Sooner or later, you sort of need to justify why you continue going after people who didn’t pick a fight with you, and these bigots can’t do it. Doesn’t mean they’re dead yet, however. Not at all. These bigots think they’ve seen it all, and we’ve only just gotten started. Let’s see how they manage to keep up with us.

  18. Bill says

    @Chadd: you don’t realize how “The Lord” operates! Ever see those funny signs that say, “In God we trust. All others pay cash.”

    Then there’s the cartoon of a hapless guy talking to God, who was represented as a voice from a cloud. “Is it true that to you a million dollars is like a penny?” “Yes.” “And a million years like a second.” “Yes.” “Could I have a penny?” “Wait a second.”

  19. UFFDA says

    The Mormon leadership isn’t shy cowed and unsure. They’ve taken a punch to their ignorant gut. Today there are just too many young men (and women) who are Mormon and who identify as gay.

    Mormons traditionally love their young men who, as a group, are the annointed dream of the world, the darling backbone of the future and the righteous princes of life needing only to be guided. Today it’s just stunning and disorienting that so many of these classically wholesome young men are both gay and even willing to commit suicide over the matter. The Mormon Church simply doesn’t know what to do about it, which make me fascinated to see what they ARE ultimately going to do about it.

  20. Keith says

    “too bad they didn’t spend any of that money to help the families struggling through an economic downturn, eh?

    people who are hungry. people who have no warm place to sleep at night, if any place at all.”

    My feelings exactly. Same in the UK. Nasty millionaires have unlimited funds to tell lies about The Gay and ignore human suffering

  21. UFFDA says

    First sentence above should read “The Mormon leadership isn’t shy they’re cowed and unsure.”

  22. Homer says

    The fight appears to be boiling down to whose got more financial life line. It is fortunate for the LGBT community to be in the position that it is now because the change in administration also meant that we don’t have to fight official government antipathy as well as anti-gay groups. I think the anti-gay groups also over-stretched their resources by supporting similarly inclined hate groups in Uganda and France.

  23. Swiminbuff says

    So how come the Mormons and the Catholic Church are not taking up collections to fund their cause? They funded Prop 8 after all.

  24. Bill says

    @QJ201: “You mean the lawyers aren’t donating their time?” …. that reminds me of a talk I once heard, given by a psychologist who was explaining all the new age stuff going on at the time. Someone asked him how you tell a quack from a professional. He said, “If he’s a quack, he’ll take your money. If he’s a professional, he’ll make sure you come back for another visit.”

  25. Bill says

    @Burt: the prophet prophesied another fine like the last one they had to pay – a token amount but it was the first time a religious organization had ever been fined for messing around during an election. The PR hurt them a lot more than the trivial fine did. OTOH, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that second offenders are often treated a lot more harshly.