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  1. Mike Ryan says

    It would have been a complete disaster if Michael had said no. Marrying another person is a pretty intimate thing. Maybe you’re hedging your bet that your partner won’t turn you down in front of everyone but if that’s the case then the proposal is more for their benefit then it is for you and your loved one.

  2. Matt26 says

    So inspirational. Love is in the air for sure.
    @Mike Ryan, surely they knew and perhaps discussed the marriage. I agree, it is intimate thing, but then again, I love these open proposals.
    All the best for these guys!

  3. Tracy says

    Wow. I’m 50 (not ALL that old) and I can’t believe how things have changed just in my lifetime. We still have a long way to go, but it’s pretty overwhelming to see a whole room of people cheering for a gay marriage proposal. It’s just amazing!

  4. Gusman says

    I thought it was kind of hokey. Some people, me included, are just not into big into PDAs. I think my boyfriend knows if he tried something similar on me I’d walk out the same way Master P did recently when his ‘friend’ set up a flash mob for his birthday and embarrassed the guy. I hope the next proposal is less fanfare and more the couple. I liked the one where the guy proposed to his boyfriend using his family, friends and flash cars. That was pretty clever.

  5. BSmart2 says

    While such a public event isn’t for everyone, I think it is a great and wonderful proposal. Just because it isn’t the way you would make a proposal doesn’t mean it is wrong or shouldn’t be featured.

    I wish these two very handsome men the best and hope they have 50 or 60 years of wedded bliss.

    And I thank them for reminding me of how much things have changed in my life time. And for that I am very thankful.

  6. Emmile says

    @Tracy and Brian:

    I agree with both of you, but don’t kid yourself that a dining area at Google is representative of the world. Almost everyone in that room is under 40. The huge change in the world is happening because of the Millennial generation and the late Gen Xers, who dominate that cafeteria. If someone did this in the cafeteria at Lloyds of London, in front of a bunch of 60-year old brokers, I suspect the reaction would be muted. Not hostile, but not nearly as supportive as this.

  7. Hyhybt says

    “It would have been a complete disaster if Michael had said no.”—True. But it depends on when you propose. You don’t do something really public like this unless you’re certain what the answer is going to be already.

    Now, if you’re doing it instead because you’re *not* sure and you want to force a yes, to me, that in itself would be a huge warning flag that the marriage should not take place.

  8. Hyhybt says

    While it’s beautiful, heart-warming, and so forth, were someone to propose to me like this I’d die of embarrassment. I don’t even like restaurants to know it’s my birthday, in case they come over and sing at me.

  9. Craig Nelson says

    It is rather wonderful especially at one’s place of work. Public proposals can of course go very wrong. I think if you’re together and it is a wonderful set up one should say yes. If after one feels it isn’t quite right then one has the opportunity to think and talk it through. If however you’re happy to be together and there’s such a wonderful public display of support that is a lovely affirmation of the relationship.

    The logistics are a little interesting. There’s no marriage in either San Fransisco or London (yet) but hopefully there’s only a few months to wait in both places!

  10. says

    @ Brian :
    I totally agree……I am staggered at the change in perception of us….

    I have even been decriminalized, individuals have stopped trying to ruin my career behind my back, there are other young gay guys in my profession and “the gay” is so ordinary for them, and most of all the sheer horror of reading about people with “full blown AIDS” dying has receded ( I know we have a long way to go….but ultimately we will get to a cure).

    Now we have advances in demanding equality with straights; a few years ago my main concern was getting home (or elsewhere) safely and avoiding gay-bashing , as the straights joyfully liked calling it.

    And Little Kiwi, who posts here, has it right; because there are so many of us now out and visible a momentum has built and we have the time.
    As Sigfried Sassoon wrote;
    “The singing will never be done.”

    the sweet boys who want to marry distil all our hopes and joys.
    Many many congratulations, shaun and Michael.

  11. BSmart2 says

    Emmile,

    I completely agree with you that a crowded lunch room at Google would be a more open and accepting group than the lunch room at Lloyds of London or many other conservative work places. Back in the day I got called on the carpet because I wore neckties that were considered to loud and flashy. I managed a branch office of a CPA firm. Appropriate attire was my “Undertaker black or blue” suit and a quiet solid tie. I do think things have relaxed everywhere. Would the there have been that many people involved at Lloyds? I doubt it, but it might also surprise you.

    BSmart

  12. Jack says

    To Emmille

    The change came about because people my age (over sixty) started coming out, started having pride parades, and had a politician like Harvey Milk. It happened because hundreds of thousands of Gay men were struck with HIV and brave men and women fought back and refused to backdown. Videos like this show me that it was not all in vain. If only my dear brothers could see this now. Enjoy your freedom to marry. We old folks wish you the very best.

  13. says

    Nicely said, Jack. The change that allowed this to happen didn’t happen because of the people in that room–they may have contributed to it, but mostly they are the beneficiaries, as the next generation will be of actions they take. And the warm response isn’t just generational. Such a proposal among older people I know would have been received just as warmly.

    You have to know whether your future husband would like a public proposal, which apparently he did. If mine had pulled this, I would have said yes, then killed him. Happiness to them!

  14. Hyhybt says

    “Would the there have been that many people involved at Lloyds? I doubt it, but it might also surprise you.”—There almost certainly wouldn’t be overt horror and complaining, and that itself is progress worth celebrating.

  15. J.J says

    You want to see how much self hate some gays have…..look at how UNCOMFORTABLE they get seeing a very identifiable gay couple in public.

    Gays with unresolved issues with their sexuality will get allll kinds of fidgety, uppity and uncomfortable seeing a same sex couple holding hands in public, affectionately hugging in public, or in this case….doing something MILLIONS of straight people do on a daily basis….a public proposal. Said self hating gays will get all kinds of uncomfortable seeing gay people who are proud to be in a relationship and have no plans to hide it.

    Sorry self hating gays….because YOU aren’t comfortable in your sexuality doesn’t mean the rest of us have to be uncomfortable in it too. Seek a shrink.

  16. Amir says

    I don’t get why gay people feel the need to dictate how other gay couples showcase their relationships or what they do in their relationships. And it happens all the time. Who are you to judge and demand gay couples live out certain ways? I assume it’s usually conservative, religious gays who go on these rants. Strikes me as very anti-gay and petty.

  17. Scottie in Houston says

    I was just in the mall and some hetero proposed to his girlfriend because they both work there and the entire place started screaming, clapping, over joyed. Heteeros having been doing ‘public displays of affection and proposals for what? centuries now? It’s only when gay couples do it where people get all sophisticated about etiquette and request we do it in private. No different than “keep it in the bedroom” or “Do you have to shove your gayness down our throats?”

    Leave privileged ignorant hetero talk to the heteros guys. Judging happy gay couples for fulfilling their happiness, even in a public setting, and celebrating their love? Rick Santorum would be proud of you.

  18. Jon says

    I proposed to my husband like this because we had discussed marriage before. Couples DO talk about that stuff folks. I’d say in 90% of relationships that have lasted longer than 10 months….you know firmly well if your partner wants to be married. As for proposals, you get to know your partner and what they like.

    To me, it’s things like this that add normalcy to our relationships. We love, and display our love, and are equally as proud to fall in love and get married as straight people. They see that and realize it.

  19. Kevin says

    Let’s please give credit to older LGBT for this change. I’m 24 years old but will FOREVER be grateful that I can hold my boyfriends hand in public here in Chicago strictly because of the lesbians who came out, drag queens who through pride events, gay men who ran for office, transgender who fought for laws being changed. Our elder LGBT made this happen. We just have to continue it for the next generation and make it even better for them. That’s how our community works.

  20. Kevin says

    Let’s please give credit to older LGBT for this change. I’m 24 years old but will FOREVER be grateful that I can hold my boyfriends hand in public here in Chicago strictly because of the lesbians who came out, drag queens who through pride events, gay men who ran for office, transgender who fought for laws being changed. Our elder LGBT made this happen. We just have to continue it for the next generation and make it even better for them. That’s how our community works.

  21. Thomas says

    Some people are really ready to jump down the throats of anyone who sees this and says “good for them, but not my cup of tea.” It doesn’t make people with that opinion self-hating gays or conservative or haters of the community or anything negative. It means that they just don’t find public proposals meaningful, and would feel that way for heterosexual couples too. People are just wired a certain way when it comes to PDA, just like they’re wired a certain way when it comes to sexuality.

  22. turrino says

    If anyone made such a public proposal to me, I would bolt out of there – ASAP. I always hated witnessing any type of public wedding proposals (straight or gay. It should be a personal, private thing.

  23. JT says

    This was so sweet. That a proposal like this could happen in my lifetime is so awesome. I’m in my 50’s and this kind of stuff really tugs at my heart. I can hardly wait to be in the same position. Hopefully, within a few years we can have equal marriage here in the U.S. nationally. The idea of engagement and then marriage is so romantic. I think every gay guy my age has been waiting for this all of our lives (at least since our late teens, so 30 plus years) and it’s almost here. And of course there are many people who have waited even longer. Love is a splendid thing indeed!

  24. DW says

    I thought it was great. Such a public splash wouldn’t be my personal choice either, but hey, these kids live their lives on camera now — it’s a different era. It brought tears to my eyes.

    Amen to those who point out how much we owe to our elders who fought — and died — so we could enjoy these freedoms today. If I am ever lucky enough to get married, I will toast our LGBT forefathers and foremothers.

  25. Hyhybt says

    Amir: it has nothing to do with self-hatred, or (for most such comments, at least) even with their being gay at all. You’ll find the same criticism pop up when someone proposes to a person of the opposite sex on the big screen at a football game or while spinning the wheel on The Price is Right.

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