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David Barton Claims Gays Will Join The Military To Get Married: AUDIO

David Barton

Evangelical minister and founder of the dominionist organization WallBuilders David Barton spoke on WallBuilders Live about the death of DOMA, fearing that gays will now sign up for the US armed forces so that they can get married. Right Wing Watch quotes him as saying: 

“Now that there is no longer a definition of marriage as a man and a woman and DOMA’s struck down, guess what? Guess what happens in the military? Guess what is going to happen in the military? Guess who is going to enlist in the military just so they can have gay marriages and force chaplains to do that?”

While it is entirely possible that some gay couples might join the military just to take advantage of marriage benefits - the same way that some students sign up just to take advantage of the GI Bill to pay for college - it's more likely that couples would simply take a trip to Massachusetts or California. Both states reconize gay marriage and have no residency requirements to get married, compared to the 4 years or more of service that new recruits are contractually bound to when they enlist. Plus, they won't have to wait until completing bootcamp before being able to throw a bachelor party.

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  1. No they won't.

    Posted by: RMc | Jul 3, 2013 9:31:45 AM

  2. I'm only 64. Where do I sign up?

    Posted by: K in VA | Jul 3, 2013 9:32:15 AM

  3. And if they do? So what?

    So f*cking what?

    Posted by: Sean in Dallas | Jul 3, 2013 9:33:28 AM

  4. Military training is good preparation for marriage? Is that the point he's trying to make.

    I don't disagree.

    Posted by: Rikon Snow | Jul 3, 2013 9:41:05 AM

  5. If what he says we're true, hey, that's a wonderful thing, shows the U.S.does the right thing, respects women, lgbts, and other minorities--and encourages others to as well. It's the speaker in this clip who is filled with inappripriate hate and vengefulness against the very existence of gay people.

    I also don't get it: How would promoting gay marriage BRING homosexuality to a country? Homosexuals are already there--they're just being hanged in Iran, and sentenced to death in Uganda, etc. FAR more offensive is the speakers likely support for endorsing kill-the-gays legislation abroad.

    Posted by: Just_a_guy | Jul 3, 2013 9:46:02 AM

  6. What is wrong with all of these religious-right type people, US or Taliban... that they believe they have the corner on what everyone else is allowed to do? There is so much more humanitarian work that needs to be done right here in the USA --- this is such a waste of time and energy, on their part. And I still can't figure out how does the marriage of two gay people have any affect on their lives or their religions. They must already have such very small lives and hearts. They need help....

    Posted by: Daya | Jul 3, 2013 9:55:48 AM

  7. Guess what? Straight people already do this all the time. The military offers a supplement to married soldiers and I personally know of one straight couple who married for the sole reason of getting this benefit. So if he has a problem, it isn't with gay marriage, just marriage.

    Posted by: gaylib | Jul 3, 2013 9:57:20 AM

  8. I just woke up. I haven't even had my coffee yet and I laughed so hard I knocked down an unoccupied building across the street...and the little shrub that had been in front? Went straight up, into the sky. Please.

    Posted by: Geoff | Jul 3, 2013 9:58:48 AM

  9. Hey, I know! Let's get married and instead of going to Brazil for our honeymoon, let's just go to Iran and deal with some road-side bombs.

    What a f'n idiot.

    Posted by: Michael | Jul 3, 2013 10:05:03 AM

  10. Dumb dumb dumb dumb....dumbbbbbbb!

    Posted by: HadenoughBS | Jul 3, 2013 10:09:14 AM

  11. Mr. Barton, I'm so impressed with your conviction that we need to make sure that only those who truly want to serve their country join the military, and not people who are simply and cynically trying to cash in on benefits unavailable to their fellow citizens.

    So here's an idea to keep that from happening: Give access to those benefits to every citizen in the country, and then they'll have no reason to WANT to join the military just to get them. That'll show them!

    This is an argument for nationwide marriage equality, not against it.

    Until then, if gay people want to join the military to get benefits, gain marketable skills, and earn enough money to get the hell out of their podunk, small-minded, bigoted home state and be able to move to some place that treats them like human beings, more power to them. It's been a reason to join the military since joining the military was invented, and it's not just limited to gay people.

    Make your state somewhere people aren't trying to claw their way out of for their own survival and maybe you can sleep at night without worrying over the motives of those who join the military.

    Posted by: Lymis | Jul 3, 2013 10:12:04 AM

  12. WTF???? This makes no sense. Of course, considering the source...well...that's to be expected. Where are all the literalist wingnuts who ought to be saying -- Gays can marry -- Must be that god wants that so Jesus did it! Yay Jesus!

    Posted by: Alex Parrish | Jul 3, 2013 10:16:01 AM

  13. Azz. Hat.

    Posted by: FactCheck | Jul 3, 2013 10:18:06 AM

  14. Apparently the good Rev. Barton has never heard of the Scared Band of Thebes. Even the Spartans steered-clear of the Band when possible.

    Posted by: Ted B. (Charging Rhino) | Jul 3, 2013 10:22:44 AM

  15. OMG! They are going to get gay married in the service and the service will transfer them to all our numerous bases in the South!

    It's an invasion!

    Posted by: Gus | Jul 3, 2013 10:24:02 AM

  16. I want some of what these guys are smoking. That must be some pretty good stuff, considering all those wild fantasies they keep coming up with.

    Posted by: hugo | Jul 3, 2013 10:24:38 AM

  17. Lol. Whatever.

    It's interesting that Barton, who has never served in the military (I checked), thinks he should have a say over those who have and do. Generally, people in the military are said to be "serving their country" or "fighting for our freedom," and I suppose includes Barton's right to publish wildly biased and inaccurate "history" books.

    Posted by: Caliban | Jul 3, 2013 10:31:29 AM

  18. I have no idea why someone would enlist just to get married, but why would that be a bad thing? Aren't the U.S. armed forces interested in more people enlisting?

    Posted by: Neil | Jul 3, 2013 10:33:40 AM

  19. Why aren't these "Christians more concerned with divorce.

    Posted by: robertL | Jul 3, 2013 10:39:54 AM

  20. Poisoned by fundamentalist hate.

    Bigoted Texas House Rep Mark Krause partners with this fanatic to form WallBuildes.

    Posted by: JONES | Jul 3, 2013 10:44:59 AM

  21. Hey K in VA I'm with you! It sounds HOT!

    Silly rabbits! Religious bigotry is for kids!

    Posted by: Ray | Jul 3, 2013 10:52:49 AM

  22. More lies from the right. No one can force any church or any particular member of the clergy to marry them. If we could force that we could also have forced churches to ordain women decades ago. It's a lie to stir up hysteria among social conservatives and it works.

    Posted by: Houndentenor | Jul 3, 2013 10:53:27 AM

  23. For some people it is only necessary to make an indirect reference to the existence of gay people in order to trigger their shock/outrage knee jerk reactions. This is why gays joining the military scares them. They might have to talk to a gay person, or a gay person might look at them. Surely we can have some compassion and maybe just cease to exist.

    How can life go on if Christians are afraid of my gay superpowers?
    Oh, wait, it can.

    Posted by: Steve Rider | Jul 3, 2013 10:56:19 AM

  24. Honestly is there no limit to stupid? Who gives a crap if they join and get married. It's a vounteer army and required volunbteers. If they are gay or straigh who really cares if they are heatlhy, fit and able to do what the military expects of them. These people really need tro listen to the idiocy that comes out of their mouths before they say it, intelligent people know better than to say these things. It doesn't even make sense. go back to hicksville idiot.

    Posted by: david from Edmonton | Jul 3, 2013 11:13:39 AM

  25. I'm so confused. To anyone who lives in NY, the name David Barton means only one thing, the gayest gay gym ever in Chelsea. Needless to say, the idea of *that* David Barton talking about gays joining the military conjured up all sorts of images (probably the same ones that haunt nasty homophobes like this one).

    Posted by: CC | Jul 3, 2013 11:23:42 AM

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