Chicago Cardinal Francis George Says Gay Marriage is an Irrational Concept

Cardinal Francis GeorgeAs pressure builds for Illinois lawmakers to take up the failed gay marriage bill again in the fall, opponents will be doubling down in an attempt to stop the inevitable expansion of equality. Chicago's Catholic Cardinal, Francis George (pictured right), is one of those longtime foes, having released a letter back in January telling parishioners to demand lawmakers put a stop to the 'redefinition' of marriage

In an interview with the Chicago Sun-Times on Monday, Cardinal George reiterated his anti-gay position, saying you don't need faith to see the faults in same-sex marriage.

"This is first of all a rational issue before it's a faith issue. That is, it's nature that tells us what marriage is, that in marriage, men and women aren't interchangeable. We didn't invent marriage. The church didn't invent marriage. Nature gives us marriage. The Chinese are not Americans, and they're not Catholic. They know what marriage is. Where did that come from?"

Perhaps Cardinal George should check out this handy little guide to the 8 types of 'traditional marriage' in the Bible before diving any further into the 'rational' arguments against gay marriage.

Comments

  1. craig fox says

    Maybe the cardinal should read:
    “SAME SEX UNIONS IN PRE-MODERN EUROPE”, BY
    John Boswell. (Available at Amazon). Up until about 1200 AD, the Catholic Church had a special liturgy for same sex marriages, and performed them regularly.
    As one of a couple who just got married after 38 years together, I know the value of marriage.

  2. TampaZeke says

    I guess the irony is completely lost on him; a man who has pledged his life to worshiping an unseen, unheard sky god that there is absolutely ZERO evidence exists.

    How does he define “rational” and “irrational”?

  3. Roscoe says

    He believes that some guy 2000 years ago walked on water, turned water into alcohol, and rose from the dead after having been nailed to a cross — but he can’t wrap his head around same-sex marriage.

  4. UrbanMike says

    I know this cardinal and have for years. Trust me, this man is full of bitterness and anger. Now he and Cardinal Dolan of NYC think they are empowered to interpret the Popes’s comments differently because they don’t sync with their message of hate. Pope Francis should take their dresses away from them.

  5. ratbastard says

    “Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.”

    Attributed to 18th century French philosopher Denis Diderot

    He also said:

    “From fanaticism to barbarism is only one step.”

  6. Dearcomrade says

    What is irrational as both the catholic church and tens of thousands of its victims have sadly found out is “Celibacy”.

    It is also unnatural and leads to misguided, abusive and predatory behavior. To deny oneself the comfort and joy of an intimate loving relationship in pursuit of any belief or cause is pretty damn irrational.

    Papist Swine!

  7. Vint says

    The idea of the Catholic church instructing us in rationality is deliciously ironic.

    I hope there was a followup question to his assertion that “nature gives us marriage.” Something along the lines of “how many married squirrels do you know? Married dingos? Fluffy bunnies?”

  8. Jacques says

    Cardinal, baby, you want to define marriage based on nature, but you want me to disavow my own nature, which is to marry my boyfriend. Sorry, man, but your rationality is full of holes. Better stick to your magic potions and spells and such.

  9. mike/ says

    @urbanmike – where does his bitterness & anger come from? his disability? his family? his experience with the church? would be interesting to know some background.

  10. woody says

    When churches tell people to deny happiness to their own family members, churches lose. People of all faiths and no faith want their kids, brothers, sisters, uncles, cousins to be happy. He’s hastening the decline of his own diocese.

  11. Michael says

    Irrational? As opposed to denying who you are and joining an organization which is made up of almost 80% gay men thus committing your life to condemning men who have the balls to he honest about something you’ll never admit to being.

    Hate to say this but the new Pope looks better all the time in comparison to his lower lifes.

  12. john patrick says

    Well, I suppose that the marriage of two people of the same gender is irrational in his closed, simplistic philosophical system. Of course what he really means is that it is against the beliefs that the popes and he hold. He uses philosophy as a rationalization for his beliefs. One might add – as a rationalization for his bias, otherwise known as antigay animus.

  13. Rob says

    If there were any state in the union with fewer than 50 cases of child molestation by Catholic priests I might, MIGHT, listen to their moral pronouncements. (And same gender attacks, at that.)

    No, I’ll take my moral cues from Ruth Bader Ginsburg. And mazel tov to her for always getting it right.

  14. Mark says

    uhm, ‘nature’? homosexual male penguins ‘marry’ and raise orphans – and all animal species have same-gender pairings. so it’s natural to have same gender marriages!!!! where did he study biology?

  15. M. Drake says

    Irrational?!?!
    Where’s the rationality behind giving tax breaks to religious groups who are clearly overstepping the boundaries separating church and state? (i.e. pushing doctrine, promiting political candidates, etc..) If these groups want to get into the political game, then remove their tax exempt status. To play politics, then, pay the price.

  16. anon says

    Traditional human marriage is the chief getting 100 wives and the remaining men having to fight over the scraps. Declared celibacy is really a way to convince the chief you aren’t after his women so you can have access to his wealth.

  17. jamal49 says

    George, honey, love the hat! Oh, by the way, Nature didn’t “give us marriage”. I’ve checked every science book I have and can’t find any reference to marriage being a part of Nature. Also, “god” didn’t “give us marriage”. Marriage equality is simply a natural, rational progression of human evolution. It makes sense to me. Too bad it doesn’t make sense to you. Maybe that hat’s too tight on your weasely, petty, tiny, Catholic pea-brain.

  18. says

    more irrational than believing that the moment you eat a piece of bread with a sip of wine it magically turns into “Christ’s” flesh and blood as it makes its way into your stomach?

    ok thanks for sharing.

  19. Sean says

    Irrational, really, how about believing in an omniscient being that allows millions to die of poverty, illness and starvation annually, with the hope that this divine being we have no proof of will allow only you and others who share your beliefs to live for eternity… Really? who is irrational here? Go look in the mirror before you take that leap of faith buddy.

  20. Anthony says

    He’s bitter and hateful because he’s a self hating closet case that fled into the clergy in the olden days because he hated his natural homosexual feelings. His parents were proud, but they never knew the reason why he joined.

    He and all the other old gay priests are just hating jealous foolish assholes.

  21. woody says

    George has to rely heavily on black evangelical preachers and their congregations for support because he has little support on this issue among catholics.
    I love the fact that he has so little moral authority with catholics, most of whom do not listen to him when it comes to gay marriage, contraception or abortion.
    So, he has to turn to preachers who agree with him on gay marriage and can still muster support from their congregations.
    George: the floor has fallen out from under you. Move on. If you can’t muster you’re own people, you’re not a credible leader.

  22. millerbeach says

    “Who am I to judge?” Do you know who said that line, Cardinal? Your boss, Pope Francis. Maybe you should listen to your boss. Quit disrespecting your boss. It is an embarrassment not only to yourself, but to the organization you represent.

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