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Indiana GOP State Senator Mike Delph: 'Gays Don't Fight Fair'

Indiana State Senator and Tea Party member Mike Delph was disappointed by the failed measure to get a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage and civil unions on his state’s 2014 ballot.

Senator_mike_delph_2014The contentious amendment, known as HJR-3, died in February in a Senate vote (keeping it off the ballot until 2016 at earliest). But still hurting from the failure, Senator Delph has written a personal column entitled, “Opponents of Christian values don’t fight fair.”

His main takeaway is:

If I have learned anything over the last months in the HJR-3 debate, opponents of traditional Judeo-Christian values don’t fight fair or with honor. They fight to win, and to date have been very successful.

After that backhanded compliment, he says that because all rights regarding marriage come from God, the government cannot create or remove any new rights regarding marriage. Thus, the government should just stay out of marriages entirely and let churches regulate it like God wants:

Rights come from God and are inalienable, meaning they cannot be taken away by man, or more important, by government… Not even courts have the power to create or remove rights. So how can a right exist that does not come from our Creator and what modern rights do we honestly believe are divinely inspired as opposed to invented and imposed by a left-wing orthodoxy?

Probably the biggest mess of all was when the government started involving itself in marriage. Tax benefits, estate planning benefits, societal legitimacy are all things traditional marriage brings participants.

Now there is evidence that not only will businesses be sued for operating according to their own faith traditions, but churches themselves can be sued if they refuse to ordain a union their God rejects.

Keep in mind that the businesses being sued for rejecting LGBT customers ran afoul of public accomodation laws and not marriage laws like Delph says, so gay marriage has nothing to do with those cases. Furthermore, there has never been one instance ever of an LGBT person trying to force a church to marry them. Never. Ever.

Fun sidenotes though: Delph’s brother Stephen is gay and Delph got punished by his own own caucus for tweeting about HJR-3's lack of votes before the news went public.

He is also “the only US politician who accepted a donation from BP's political action committee in the period after its Deepwater Horizon spill and spoke out in favor of the company in defense of its critics.”

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  1. That wasn't "fair" to bring up the BP oil spill.

    Posted by: Adam | Apr 3, 2014 7:14:55 AM


  2. Just another phony "conservative". The TEA Party is supposedly for LESS government. The government dictating who you can or cannot marry is counter to that.

    Posted by: Chrislam | Apr 3, 2014 7:16:30 AM


  3. It's true, a-holes can talk.

    Posted by: Bollox | Apr 3, 2014 7:27:28 AM


  4. I live in Indiana and Mike Delph is targeted for removal from office, and yes LGBT Hoosiers don't fight fair but then again none of the Republicans who have a majority in our house, senate and governor's office do either!! We are fighting for our equal rights and we will NOT quit until we get them if we have to drag our fine state along into the 21st century kicking and screaming.

    Posted by: BrokebackBob | Apr 3, 2014 7:30:48 AM


  5. all "rights" for marriage come from gawd?and oil spills are ordained by him as well? oh ha ha ha ha

    Posted by: codyj | Apr 3, 2014 7:31:29 AM


  6. What's wrong with fighting to win? First, we were too effeminate to fight, now we're bullies.

    Posted by: Jack M | Apr 3, 2014 7:46:11 AM


  7. Mike Delph embodies EXACTLY what the conservative movement is about: Theocracy before democracy, big government control over everyone’s liberty, enslaving the working class with taxes to support to 1%, dividing Americans to destroy the United in the U.S.A.

    Posted by: 1♥ | Apr 3, 2014 7:46:25 AM


  8. So marriage comes from God. Benefits like tax and estate planning benefits come from the government. He wants the government to stay out of marriage. Does that mean he is in favor of removing all the tax breaks and estate planning breaks that married people receive ?

    Posted by: NwYrkr | Apr 3, 2014 7:56:01 AM


  9. Mike needs a Punch in the Mouth.....if I were his brother, he'd already have one!

    Posted by: disgusted american | Apr 3, 2014 7:56:21 AM


  10. Yeah cus straight guys fight so fair when there's 10 of them kicking 1 gay guy's head in.

    Posted by: danswon | Apr 3, 2014 8:03:46 AM


  11. What is he talking about? Ugh, just die already.

    Posted by: Killian | Apr 3, 2014 8:57:28 AM


  12. Slaves who wanted freedom or women who wanted to vote weren't fighting fair I guess in his eyes, right? They were supposed to just accept domination and discrimination, right?

    Posted by: Killian | Apr 3, 2014 8:59:06 AM


  13. "Rights come from God and are inalienable, meaning they cannot be taken away by man, or more important, by government… Not even courts have the power to create or remove rights."

    It's still astonishing to hear of politicians who have such disregard for rights in our country. Equality is an inalienable RIGHT we all have. To institute your own interpretation of "rights" in this country or more importantly your own interpretation of who deserves those equal rights is counter to America itself.

    Remember that politicians are paid representatives of the people, no wonder we have such a problem with equality in a country that prides itself on it.

    Posted by: Hey Darlin' | Apr 3, 2014 9:10:28 AM


  14. Huh ?
    "all rights of marriage come from god'......? such rights are inalienable...."

    What does that mean ?
    So without his god we wouldn't have any rights ?
    I'm lost.
    And this turd speaks of 'honour'. ....when his own brother is gay he speaks against gay rights !
    A fool is a fool is a fool, to paraphrase Gertrude Stein.

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Apr 3, 2014 9:10:49 AM


  15. Because God supports BP. What a corrupt guy all around.

    Posted by: SpaceCadet | Apr 3, 2014 9:20:49 AM


  16. "Congress shall make NO law respecting an establishment of religion" ~ First Amendment. Rights come from the constitution. It is 100% ILLEGAL for the American government base ALL law on a specific religious belief or definition and to force, demand, or require Americans adhere to a specific religious belief of definition through SECULAR law.

    You are NOT a REAL American if she demand American citizens adhere to your personal religious belief etc through law. He is under legal obligation (a non-negotiable legally binding contract) to respect, protect, and represent those who do not and cannot be forced to adhere to his personal religious beliefs as they are and want not how he wants them to be. His "God" is irrelevant to laws that apply to those who do not follow his version of "God". This is an incontestable legal fact of American law and values.

    Posted by: Sean | Apr 3, 2014 9:36:07 AM


  17. If this hypocrite really believed in "traditional Judeo-Christian values" he would be in favor of a constitutional amendment banning the consumption of pork and shellfish and making divorce illegal.

    Posted by: Kieran | Apr 3, 2014 9:39:37 AM


  18. Gays don't fight fairLY. For the love of an adverb, die already.

    Posted by: Chandler in Las Vegas | Apr 3, 2014 9:44:41 AM


  19. As an Indiana resident, it is sometimes painful to listen to statements like this from our representatives, and others. But it fills me with glee to read their pained comments about the march of progress, and to know that someday (probably sooner rather than later) the higher courts will do away with bans on gay marriage across the land, and dimwitted bigots like these guys will be spinning in their so-called Christian graves. Ha! Ha!

    Posted by: HoosierDaddy | Apr 3, 2014 9:46:19 AM


  20. Yes, please don't bring up anything Delph might have done in public office, like taking money to gloss over oil spills. That's not fair! On the other hand, Delph pushing his way into the private lives of others and deciding who can and can't get married? Completely fair!

    Posted by: bobbyjoe | Apr 3, 2014 10:05:49 AM


  21. This man is a stain on Indiana. He shouldn't call himself a Hoosier. Glad he lost that battle.

    Posted by: reality | Apr 3, 2014 10:38:22 AM


  22. He's relying on people being misinformed about how the law will work. It is constantly being suggested in right-wing circles that Christian weddings will be forced to include gay couples, which is not going to happen. His rhetoric simply picks up on that.

    Posted by: anon | Apr 3, 2014 10:52:55 AM


  23. i love how he breaks the ninth commandment. a lot :)

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Apr 3, 2014 11:29:27 AM


  24. He must not realize some churches are in favor of marriage equality. So even if marriage was left entirely to churches gays could still get married (however straight atheist would be denied).

    Posted by: Craig | Apr 3, 2014 12:32:57 PM


  25. This is why I call them "whiny-cons".

    Posted by: jamal49 | Apr 3, 2014 12:46:47 PM


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