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GERALDINE FERRARO: Defends her remarks that Obama is where he is because he is black.

DREAM TICKET: Nancy Pelosi puts the kibosh on any Clinton-Obama, Obama-Clinton combo.

GEORGE W BUSH: The president sings an early farewell at the Gridiron Roast.

BILL O'REILLY: O'Reilly vs Godwin's law.

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  1. WHEN izzz the world going to realize that OBAMA is just as white as he is black?? BUT! he is a TRUE African/American. Most blacks ancestors have been here long enough to DROP the African part...they're AMERICANS now. I have never even considered being called European American?!? lol

    Posted by: todd | Mar 12, 2008 10:26:55 AM


  2. Wow, just lost every last bit of respect for Ferraro. Now she's the victim. lol

    Posted by: homer | Mar 12, 2008 10:31:27 AM


  3. Not only is what Ferraro said (and still keeps saying) offensive, but its flat out wrong. If Obama had been white, he would easily have the nomination right now.

    Posted by: rob | Mar 12, 2008 10:46:54 AM


  4. Who cares? Big deal? Amazing... I found brintey spears had a personal account on
    M e e t R i c h. c o m. It is a site for celebrities and millionaires to mingle. It's said Charlie Sheen has found his love there last May.

    Posted by: kneier | Mar 12, 2008 10:49:53 AM


  5. yes, geraldine! don't let the chihuahuas and wiener dogs nip at your heels. kick those yapping bitches to the curb. you've paid your dues, girl.

    HOMER and ROB,

    funny that you guys state your version of
    "truthiness" under a video of o'reilly.

    Posted by: nic | Mar 12, 2008 10:57:36 AM


  6. Most interesting part of Ferraro's interview was at the end when she said, if he wins the nomination, he's going to need her to raise money for him--she'll do it IF HE STOPS THESE ATTACKS ON ME.

    Democrats, listen, the Super Delegates must go with whoever has the popular vote and the most elected delegates. Hopefully, either Barack or Hillary will have BOTH. If not, hello President Grandpa!


    And TODD,

    you ever see a white man as skinny as Barack who still had bubble buns?--narrow but bubbly--must be the African part. I'm not saying it couldn't be, but I'd like to see it...I mean, them. And don't tell me Brad Pitt or Colin Farrell--they're not skinny, they're toned. Then again, who knows their ancestry--Pitt could be descended from the Watusi for all we know. He's certainly attracted to big, full lips.

    Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Mar 12, 2008 10:57:55 AM


  7. Congratulations America! The Obama campaign has succeeded where the British, the Spanish, the Nazis, the Communists, Islamic terrorists all failed -- controling your free speech...making you afraid to say anything remotely related to race for fear of being crucified as a racist. And without firing an actual shot. You all just surrendered.

    Note how even Andy failed to reflect the entirety of what Ferraro said...that Obama is where he is because he is black AND NOT A WOMAN. No one is accusing Ferraro of being a sexist because she said that Obama would not be where he is in the election if he were a woman OF ANY COLOR. And that's not just because they don't care about sexism but because then they would have to focus on her ACTUAL point which is that...regardless of his intelligence...his potential...his sincerity...what he has accomplished... OBJECTIVELY speaking he doesn't have the kind of credentials typical to explain his success in the contest.

    "State senators," as he was in Illinois, don't actually represent the entire state but only their small district. He won THAT nomination by simply erasing his opponents through technical challenges to their filing petitions. He won his US Senate seat because his Repug opponent self-destructed in a sex scandal. He's barely been in the US Senate one-third the time that Sen. Clinton has. He hasn't served as long as John Edwards had or Biden or Dodd or Kucinich. He hasn't governed an entire state as Richardson has. So, yeh, where's the beef?

    It's in the fact that, just as he did waay back at Harvard after he finally was elected to head the law review on the NINETEENTH ballot as a compromise candidate, just as HE described HIMSELF in his book—he made himself a "blank screen" upon which all kinds of people can project what they THINK he is. Which entirely fits gay black writer David Ehrenstein's essay months ago in the LA Times describing Obama as another perfect "Magic Negro" for whites; that if there were anything "real" about him that they could see they wouldn't be interested in him. Does that make Ehrenstein a racist?

    Obama is where he is all the more because it's taken over a year for mainstream media to start asking serious questions of him; to look behind the curtain to challenge even some of his claims at the same time they have aggressively carried on the nearly two-years old narrative of Hillary as a lying, conniving bitch. Writer and Princeton economist Paul Krugman calls this "Clinton Rules" wherein the media portrays everything she says/does as ipso facto evil....at the same time they have fed the narrative of Obama as the Messiah.

    Is black Congressman John Lewis...who actually fought with Martin Luther King for civil rights, who was brutally beaten by Southern police...is HE racist for having denied that the Clintons are...for having accused the Obama campaign of a conscious effort to smear the Clintons as racist...for saying that "Obama is no Martin Luther King"? After learning that his own opponent for reelection this summer was going to accuse him of failing to represent his district which mostly voted for Obama in their primary, Lewis understandably changed his endorsement to Obama. But he hasn't taken back what he said.

    Neither has black Congressman Charlie Rangel who said that the subject of "'race' is in this because Obama said 'race'." Is Rangel a racist for saying that? For supporting Sen. Clinton over Obama?

    Are the other African-Americans from "average citizens" to business moguls and elected officials who support Sen. Clinton racist?

    Is black lesbian minister Irene Monroe a racist for accusing Obama of playing the race card, of being a "vote whore" when he paid for a stage for homohating Donnie McClurkin in South Carolina?

    Is Obama himself a racist for having denounced another black man...Louis Farrakhan? [Apparently antiSemitism is more important to Obama than homohating as he has yet to denounce McClurkin...only said that he disagreed with him. "Denounce" vs. "disagree"...think about that.

    But wait! What am I saying? How dare I ask these questions? How dare I suggest people think. I can smell the brand of Racist on my searing flesh now.......

    Posted by: Michael Bedwell | Mar 12, 2008 11:20:52 AM


  8. although i'm still in a tizzy from yesterday's post about novarro's beautiful nipples, I have somehow managed to compose myself momentarily to say that i think ferraro's comments are totally unnecessary and uncalled for. this reminds me of a conversation i overheard this weekend while having coffee with my husband at starbucks. a american trio whom i presume were tourists were speculating on the percentage of black versus white blood in obama's veins with all the sinister relish of a dr. mengele. and yes, california was too liberal 4 them, they added.

    Posted by: the queen | Mar 12, 2008 11:21:06 AM


  9. Todd, You've never heard of an Italian American or an Irish American. And you've never seen any of these groups celebrate their culture by naming their kids with Irish or Italian names. Or otherwise take pride in their culture. It doesn't harm anyone for Obama or anyone else to call themselves African American. I think the real problem, and the problem that many have with Obama, is that he and others have decided to define themselves, and not go along with what others tell them is their culture or how they should act.

    Posted by: Cadence | Mar 12, 2008 11:25:06 AM


  10. I'm a huge supporter of Barack Obama. I voted for him in our state's primary and I will continue to vote for him with every chance I get.

    I do, however think that he is where he is because he is black. I love his message, butI feel that were he not black, he would not have been given such a platform to deliver it. He is a first-term senator from Illinois. I am thankful that his race gave the media a hook by which I was able to learn more about him, but that happened because of his race.

    Posted by: Dan B | Mar 12, 2008 11:32:14 AM


  11. You'd have to be dumb to buy that Ferraro's initial comment was not intentionally conceived (as was Kerrey's and Bill's and the others) to drum up racial side-taking. But beyond that, Ferraro's continued insistence that what she said is fine is really am embarrassment. How can Hillary not see that she loses at least one supporter for every one she gains by this tactic?

    Posted by: Matthew Rettenmund | Mar 12, 2008 11:35:33 AM


  12. You'd have to ask the white voters who voted for Obama, how much a factor his race had to do with it? I wonder, would they have voted for Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton? So, it must be something other than his blackness (or light browness) that makes white people vote for Obama.

    The blacks who've voted for him obviously like HIM as well as his skin color. Neither Charlie Rangel, John Lewis nor Maxine Waters could create the kind of enthusiasm among black voters that Barack Obama has.

    Barack is very similar to GARY HART in 1984. People believe he's different. It's not just his skin color, it's him. Had John Edwards had Barack's message of "coming together"--he might still be in the fight. Alone with Mrs Clinton, Edwards might very well be ahead of her with the "come together/non partisan" approach.

    Michael,

    what the hell are you going to do if the nominee is Barack? You'll have to go away and rest in the solitude of Yellow Stone, then come back and vote in November. Right now, somebody'd have to physically force you to pull that big Democratic lever with Obama at the top of it. Calm down, chile.

    Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Mar 12, 2008 11:46:16 AM


  13. Michael Bedwell is consistently correct in his assessments of the Obama campaign regarding race.

    Instead of having the conversation with Ferraro about her opinions, the campaign comes out and says that what she is saying is absurd and has no place in politics. Why doesn't it have a place in politics, because some people might disagree with you?

    You might not like what she is saying, but don't try to shut her up, and don't try to say that she is racist.

    Posted by: jmg | Mar 12, 2008 11:52:30 AM


  14. Ahh, I knew that ginormous block of text was from Michael Bedwell before I even scrolled past it to the end. I could smell the stench of bitter old queen from miles away.

    Posted by: crispy | Mar 12, 2008 11:53:22 AM


  15. I'm a black man, and I must say that not only is what Ferraro said not offensive, it's true and doesn't even matter anyway. It's like saying Hillary is where she is because she married Bill. That's completely true and pointless, now. It doesn't matter. Clinton is where she is and Obama is where he is no matter how they got there.

    Consider John Edwards who had more experience and as much charisma as Obama but because he's white, the idea of "newness" wasn't there for him as much as people liked the idea of "change." There's nothing wrong with saying that. Ferraro didn't call him a bad name, she simply spoke the truth. She's not running for president, why does it matter?

    Personal story time: I went to an Ivy League school and I'm convinced that the only reason I was accepted is because I'm black. I'm sure there were other qualified white applicants they could have chosen but they chose me for diversity. I don't get offended if you say this to me 'cause guess what, I still have an Ivy League diploma! It doesn't matter how I got in, I did!

    The Obama camp needs to focus on their plans for the US not not fake attacks.

    Posted by: junior | Mar 12, 2008 11:56:31 AM


  16. seriously, we all need to lighten up. i'll be as comfortable voting for a brilliant open-minded black man as i will for a brilliant open-minded white woman.

    who woulda thunk that joy behar would be the voice of reason on "the view"? she said, "you can't criticize hillary because it's sexism; you can't criticize obama because it's racism; and you can't criticize mccain because it's elder abuse." hahahaha!

    i'm sure that she will be getting hate mail and death threats from the anti-ageism defamation league.

    Posted by: nic | Mar 12, 2008 12:11:02 PM


  17. Junior - you make some really great points... i agree w/ you 100%

    Posted by: gabriel | Mar 12, 2008 12:28:00 PM


  18. Black voters have long represented the base of the modern Democratic Party. It's quite fascinating to see how easily such an important constituency can be so quickly disregarded when it suits certain politicians.

    Is anyone really socked by what Geraldine said? She said the exact same thing about Jesse Jackson 20 years ago.

    BTW, if I were being really provocative, I could mention that Hillary wouldn't have been able to railroad her way into her NY senatorial seat in 2000 over a succession of lesser know NY politicians had she not been the cuckolded woman married to Bill Clinton. Imagine the outrage if Obama raised that...

    Posted by: Jason | Mar 12, 2008 12:34:35 PM


  19. Jason,

    That line has already been used, by Chris Matthews. And only men can be cuckolds. There needed to be a special word for a man whose wife cheated on him, probably because it was a much rarer occurrence than a man cheating on a woman.


    Posted by: jmg | Mar 12, 2008 12:51:05 PM


  20. -hilary will be NOWHERE if her last name was not CLINTON, and if he was not white.

    -liberman could not have be v.p. nominee of gore if he was not jewish..

    - bush could have be NOWHERE if his father was not white and president.

    want more?

    Posted by: johnosahon | Mar 12, 2008 1:01:01 PM


  21. At first, I found Ferraro’s comments ironic. Now, I’m angry. Contrary to her latter interpretations, she did not say, at the time, that she would not have been a VP nominee if she were not female.

    In the abstract, it is arguable that her statements are not racist. However, we do not live in a vacuum. We, unfortunately, live in a culture rooted in white supremacy.

    Her chosen words (she was a teacher, lawyer, and politician) just happened to be the words white folks use when they grouse about affirmative action? It seems unlikely, improbable even.

    It should matter when the Clinton campaign and its agents use white supremacist language and imagery.

    Posted by: Carlton | Mar 12, 2008 1:08:24 PM


  22. Todd,

    African-American is no different that Chinese American, Irish American, etc. Also, the majority of African-Americans are mixed-race. Martin Luther King Jr, Rosa Park, Malcolm X, Don Cheadle, Chris Rock, Will Smith and Morgan Freeman all have white ancestry.

    During the slave era and afterwards, American law and custom institutionalized the One Drop Rule. One drop of African blood made one "black." This allowed for greater number of people to enslaved and later oppressed.

    In Plessy v. Ferguson, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Plessy, a man who was 7/8th white, could be categorized as "black" and that segregation was legal. Lousiana law enforced the One Drop Rule making anyone with 1/32 African ancestry "black." Similar laws existed in most Southern states.

    Many African-Americans who looked "white" decided to escape the life of racial oppression and moved to different areas of the country where they could reinvent themselves as "white." So, as modern genetic surveys show, 1/3 of white Americans have detectable African ancestry that can be traced to slavery.

    For instance, as PBS.org shows people like Humphrey Bogart, Carrol Channing, and Heather Lochlear are all descendants of African slaves.

    Many of these people don't know about their own ancestry until they undergo genetic testing. For instance, famous genetist James Watson only recently learned of his African ancestry after allowing his DNA to be sequenced.

    Posted by: noah | Mar 12, 2008 1:10:16 PM


  23. STOP IT!!!!!!! Stop it, everyone!!!! We have two fine candidates on the Democratic ballot. Yet every gay man I know has chosen sides, either Hillary or Obama, and ceased to be open-minded about the other candidate. I can't tell you how many times I've heard guys say "If Obama gets the nomination I'm not voting in November" or "If Clinton gets the nomination I'm voting for McCain". PEOPLE! This is insanity!!!!! We can't be so partisan within our own party. Ask yourself this: which matters more, that a Democrat gets elected in November or that the Democrat you liked best gets elected in November? I seriously hope you all can see the foolishness of failing to support both these fine candidates until we have the nominee and can throw all our support behind one person.

    Posted by: peterparker | Mar 12, 2008 1:14:40 PM


  24. I wish Michael Bedwell would stop blogging on someone else's blog.

    Posted by: D. R. H. | Mar 12, 2008 1:19:21 PM


  25. Derrick, mon cher, I will happily "pull the lever" for Obama over McCain but the campaign for the nomination is not over yet no matter how angry the Obamoonies are that he still hasn't been given the nomination by aclamation. And, again, someone please explain that if he is so great and Sen. Clinton is so bad?

    And you might be right, as you've written elsewhere, that "what is best for the Party" would be for the superdelegates to finally do that but you are wrong when you say that superdelegates should just follow the votes....otherwise there would be no point for them in the first place.

    As for comparisons to Gary Hart...he had been a US Senator 9 and 11 years respectively when he ran for President. Obama has only been a US Senator 3 years....at least one of which should be deducted [and, yes, from Sen. Clinton, too] for using it to run for President. Which is also why he got caught in his own trap about "we should be focusing on Afghanistan" and "I have experience on the Foreign Relations Committee" when he was forced to admit he's been MIA because he's been busy campaigning for Prez—just like he was MIA when the Illinois gay rights bill was being fought for because he was too busy running for Senator. I can hear him now: "What's this bull about there will be no more offices to run for if I'm elected Prez? Michelle! Where are you?"

    Posted by: Michael Bedwell | Mar 12, 2008 2:09:07 PM


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