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Schwarzenegger Calls Gay Marriage Ban 'a Total Waste of Time'

California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger spoke out at Friday's Log Cabin Republican convention in San Diego about efforts in the state to put a measure constitutionally banning same-sex marriage on the state's ballot in the upcoming election.

SchwarzeneggerRex Wockner wrangled the full quote: "Well, first of all, I think that it would never happen in California because I think that California people are much further along with that issue. And, number two, I will always be there to fight against that, because it would never happen. I think we need a constitutional amendment so that foreign-born citizens can run for president, but not about gay marriage. That's a total waste of time."

Opponents of marriage equality said at the beginning of April that they have nearly one million signatures supporting the anti-gay measure. Schwarzenegger's statement has been hailed as a salvo against those efforts.

Said Geoff Kors, executive director of Equality California: "This is extremely significant, and it's an enormous event to have our Republican governor come out against this ballot measure, which is opposed by Democrats as well. It makes this opposition a bipartisan issue."

Schwarzenegger has continually vetoed and promised to veto legislation that would legalize same-sex marriage in the state. His position on that remains unchanged.

Following, his statements, one LCR member urged the governor: "Arnold, I loved all your movies. ... Take your shirt off!"

Teased Schwarzenegger: "Why stop there?!"

Arnie: Marriage-ban effort "a total waste of time" [rex wockner]
Fun with the Governator... [rex wockner]
Governor against amendment to ban gay marriage [sf chronicle]
(image: rex wockner)

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  1. Sounds like Arnold is having a few pangs of remorse...or, even more astonishing, perhaps he actually still believes everything he's said all along.

    Well, gosh, I guess I can give him a thumb's up on this one. Never thought I'd do that.

    Posted by: Yeek | Apr 14, 2008 8:13:42 AM


  2. Arnold is a crafty politician. He has made a calculation that this anti-gay initiative will fall flat at the ballot box. That said, I do believe he personally thinks the anti-gay stuff is a total waste of time. It is inevitable... we will get equality soon or later. It's just a matter of time - and the folks which are against it will be seen by historians in a non-favorable light.

    Posted by: Manny | Apr 14, 2008 9:18:37 AM


  3. Arnold is a crafty politician. He has made a calculation that this anti-gay initiative will fall flat at the ballot box. That said, I do believe he personally thinks the anti-gay stuff is a total waste of time. It is inevitable... we will get equality soon or later. It's just a matter of time - and the folks which are against it will be seen by historians in a non-favorable light.

    Posted by: Manny | Apr 14, 2008 9:18:57 AM


  4. Once a rent-boy always a rent-boy.

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Apr 14, 2008 9:27:15 AM


  5. " I will always be there to fight against that" you can take the action hero out of the movies but you can't take the movie out of the action hero. Not since he saved the world from the devil has he done something this good.

    Posted by: SJ | Apr 14, 2008 9:36:47 AM


  6. That's right, David.

    It's a good object lesson for all those masseurs and escorts out there: You, too, can one day be the governor of the State of California.

    Posted by: GM | Apr 14, 2008 9:47:04 AM


  7. Look at that dyejob. If that isn't a gay hair stylist's revenge, I don't know what is.

    Posted by: Roscoe | Apr 14, 2008 10:30:49 AM


  8. I hate to spit in the eye of someone standing in the way of the haters, but...

    In 2005 and again in 2007, the California Assembly passed bills allowing for marriage equality in the State of California. Both times, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed the bills, saying that it would go against the will of the people. And now, when it looks like the 'will of the people' might determine that only heterosexual Californians are entitled to the full protection of marriage, Schwarzenegger says he will veto any effort to deny marriage equality. By first vetoing the bill allowing for marriage equality and later pledging that he will veto any bill to deny marriage equality, Schwarzenegger has effectively taken no stand whatsoever on this issue while at the same time currying favor with groups on both sides of the issue. We should not laud Schwarzenegger for stating that he will veto a ballot measure that seeks to deny us marriage protection when, just a few short months ago, he himself vetoed a bill that would have allowed us the protections of marriage.

    Posted by: peterparker | Apr 14, 2008 10:42:43 AM


  9. PETERPARKER, this Amendment is being brought by referendum through petition. The Governor will not have the option to veto it. If it gets the required number of signatures and is approved by the Attorney General it will go on the ballot. Arnold has just said that he would work to defeat the measure at the polls. Even still, it does seem like he's talking out of both sides of his mouth to play the ends against the middle.

    Posted by: Zeke | Apr 14, 2008 11:12:01 AM


  10. ZEKE...Duh!!!!...I should learn not to post before I am fully awake. Thanks for the correction! (I feel like an idiot.)

    Posted by: peterparker | Apr 14, 2008 11:15:40 AM


  11. Apparently, he'll say anything.

    Posted by: anon | Apr 14, 2008 1:46:58 PM


  12. I wish there would be greater crackdown on the way these signatures are gotten. When you leave the supermarket, there's often a person or two with a table and at least 7 petitions for various ballets. They call out things like help protect the environment and stuff like that, but when you read the wording it's entirely the opposite or sometimes it's a different petition entirely. After the first one, they give you a bunch more, and most people don't even read them. These people are paid to gather the signatures, and all in all it seems very shady.

    Posted by: Zeeshan | Apr 14, 2008 2:32:22 PM


  13. Zeeshan, the amounts they get paid have gone up considerably---and, not coincidentally---since Scwarzeneggar started his recall campaign. Depending on the number of forms, those collecting signatures can get paid $10 for every person who signs them. Accordingly, as you say, they misprepresent things and are often very aggressive.

    That, combined with the local ballot measures (San Francisco usually has at least a dozen, mostly on obscure issues that should be decided by people who know better---the politicians we vote into office and their staff and other councils, etc.), makes it impossible to believe in the notion of informed voters. Democracy is great, but its implementation in CA often borders on the absurd.

    Posted by: Paul R | Apr 14, 2008 4:51:57 PM


  14. California people are much further along with that issue.
    If that is true, support gaymarriage f*cker!

    Posted by: Mike | Apr 14, 2008 7:46:46 PM


  15. This petition effort is being done because Prop 22 is before the state supreme court. Prop 22 did define marriage as one man and one woman but it wasn't done as a state constitutional amendment like this new effort. It's at risk of being overturned.

    Remember another Republican, San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders, decided to support a letter to the court recommending overturn of Prop 22. FYI, Sanders is up for reelection beginning with a June primary. He's going to have a hard time against millionaire businessman Steve Francis, the paleoconservative's candidate.

    Arnold always said the legislature should not overturn the will of the people on that issue and we should wait for the courts to rule. While he was vetoing "gay marriage" he also signed civil union and hate-crimes bills that came to his desk.

    That he will oppose this new measure seems weird but I agree these people are only trying to delay the inevitable. I don't think they'll get enough signatures but, sadly, only a fool would say CA has moved passed the idea of traditional marriage.

    Posted by: queendru | Apr 14, 2008 10:53:16 PM


  16. Man, I wish our gay governor Charlie Crist had the balls to oppose our (FL) state ballot addition of a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. But he has to come out first and stop trying to convince all the neo-cons that he's hetero. I.e.: ain't never gonna happen.

    Posted by: Matt | Apr 14, 2008 11:21:38 PM


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