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05/23/2008
British Comic Aspires to be the Plus-Size David Beckham
British comic James Corden (he stars in the BAFTA-winning sitcom Gavin and Stacey) posed in the UK's Heat magazine, spoofing a couple of iconic male beefcake shots.
See his version of Herb Ritts' classic image "Fred with Tires," which in Corden's case would be "Fred with Spare Tires," AFTER THE JUMP...
Posted 9:31 AM EST by Andy Towle in David Beckham, Fashion Men, News, Television | Permalink
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Derrick:
I think it's funny that you do this to get a response from these guys...and it works! Morons huh?? It's easier work than wagging a dick thru a gloryhole. hehe
Keep up the good work!
PS
Um yeah...what Derrick said!!!
Posted by: Labia Minora-Majora | May 23, 2008 3:48:41 PM
100 years ago, "90% of the Earth" would have said the same simple-minded things about homosexuality: it's unnatural, unhealthy, and reviling. "Gee, why would anyone want to have sex with a man?! Since the dawn of time, we've always celebrated the beauty of the female figure!"
By the way, I'm really impressed by your spelling skills. If only your superior intellect allowed you to look at things in a less close-minded way.
Posted by: Graham | May 23, 2008 3:53:38 PM
I can't sign off feeling this way. Look, obviously, I still have a lot to learn about other groups of folks who feel oppressed and mistreated--groups that aren't normally viewed as oppressed.
I apologize to anyone who was PERSONALLY offended by my comments. I just feel that we need to keep a realistic view about what popular culture, and even many serious artists consider "male physical beauty". Neither me nor most people in this world can fulfull those expectations--but some can, and they are a pleasure to behold.
I did not know this thread would get serious.
Well, it's just what Mr Williams said through his character Miss Dubois, "...physical beauty is a transitory possession..."
Yeeeeah, girl, that's why you better enjoy it while you can.
Posted by: Derrick from Philly | May 23, 2008 4:07:54 PM
Weak analogy, Graham.
Homosexuality has been around for thousands and thousands of years, probably since the dawn of man. Science has nearly proven that a genetic predisposition exists and people are born gay.
Fat people, on the other hand, are a relatively new occurrence thanks to the advent of cars, potato chips, and Xbox. No one is born fat. And science has routinely proven that fat is just not bad for you, it will kill you.
Posted by: crispy | May 23, 2008 4:08:33 PM
How silly of me, I completely forgot that fat people never existed until the invention of the automobile.
Throughout history, fat has often been considered a desirable trait, associated with wealth, strength, and fertility. Quoting Wikipedia on attitudes towards obesity in early modern European society: "it came to serve more as a visible signifier of 'lust for life', appetite, and immersion in the realm of the erotic."
But that's probably just because of too much Xbox exposure.
I don't think it is a weak analogy. I think it's ironic to see the commenters in this post get so riled up about the concept of fat people being attractive, trying to discredit the very notion with the same sort of anecdotal rethoric as the Christian Right will use against homosexuality, claiming common sense, majority opinion, etc.
But I understand where that comes from, and I don't put the blame wholly on those who are high-fiving each other in these comments, proud that they've driven the point home that fat people aren't attractive (as if it's an objective fact). No, the blame lies on a culture that promotes the worship of skinny gym bunny musclequeens. How can people like Derrick feel anything but threatened when they see something like these James Corden photos-- they're completely contradictory to the notion of what can fall within the realm of physical attraction. If I had devoted my life to working out and trying to look like David Beckham, I'd be angry too.
Posted by: Graham | May 23, 2008 4:25:56 PM
CRISPY:
"Fat" is one of the older words in the English language, going back at least a thousand years to Old English and likely before. "Homosexual" was coined in about 1890. I think that speaks to the ludicrousness of your argument.
What has changed is the prevalence of and the associations with obesity. Beauty is largely about status: when food supplies were low and only the powerful could be fat, it was seen as a sign of beauty. In the 20th century, as food supplies grew and it became more difficult to be thin, that became the favored look. The under 10% body fat look was not seen as beautiful until the 1960s: Marilyn Monroe would be a plus size model today. The idea that fat men are unattractive to the point of being grotesque is even more recent.
However, I do not mean to say that it's good to be fat. One of the reasons why fat is seen as unattractive now is that we know more about the health risks associated with obesity. I do not consider obesity to be an innate trait. I regard my own obesity as my own fault and the result of failures in my own character.
That does not mean that it's okay to be cruel to fat people, to call us disgusting, or to express disbelief that someone else might be attracted to us.
Posted by: Landon Bryce | May 23, 2008 5:24:39 PM
He's sexy as hell, in fact my man looks just like him only taller and blacker wayyyyyyyy blacker. I like a man with some meat on his bones. I'm loving that shot where he posed like Beckham classic!!! hell yeah I would tap that ass.
Posted by: NubianGoddez | May 23, 2008 7:08:49 PM
This thread is the perfect example of how oppressed people need to find another group to put down to make themselves feel better for whatever oppression they've experienced themselves. A large portion of the gay community has always chosen others' looks to put down or mock. If any person expects to be treated with respect and acceptance, perhaps you should give out what you expect to get from others. If not, you're do different than the fundy who hates gay people. The beauty of the human race is its diversity in races, culture, looks, hair color, body types, gender, age, etc, etc. We aren't made from a single cookie cutter and we all have our own different tastes and aesthetics. Thank god for that.
Posted by: Patrick | May 23, 2008 7:22:03 PM
As someone who half a life ago, in high school, was bulimic and borderline anorexic, and who had trouble enjoying sex for years because I thought I was fat (I wasn't), this coversation is very disturbing.
Can we all just accept that fact that fat people are attractive to some people, that models and Beckham-types are attractive to more people, and that individual preferences are just that? It's no different that preferences for twinks or bears, certain races or others, or even certain hair colors. (I like blonds---but I don't expect everyone to.)
I've come to terms with my body type, don't consider obesity a moral failing, and try to stay in reasonable shape without being obsessed (I would never have a scale in my house). I think Derrick may have misspoken, because I know he has a good heart. I think Chad needs to reevaluate what's important in life. And I think that overweight people should either accept themselves or go on a diet, if only for health reasons---whatever works better for them. But those are all personal decisions. Get it? Personal. "Live and let live" shouldn't be a difficult concept for the LGBT community.
Posted by: Robert | May 23, 2008 7:23:05 PM
"I know there are people who actually can't help being fat, but today, with as many drugs as there are, psychological help, surgeries, etc., there really isn't any excuse not to look good. C'mon, who doesn't want to wear Dior Homme? And you certainly can't if you're a tub of lard! Shallow? maybe, but I happen to believe you CAN have it all."
YOU are a smug brainwashed twat. Go eat a burger and stfu.
Posted by: pearly | May 23, 2008 8:24:30 PM
"And you certainly can't if you're a tub of lard! Shallow? maybe, but I happen to believe you CAN have it all."
But you don't have it all. You have absolutely no character and lack any sense of decency. While you may be happy with your life at the moment, lacking these two qualities will drive people away from you as you get older. Oh, and you will get older...faster than you can even imagine. You'll be an old and lonely man wondering what happened to all the "beautiful" people who were once around you. They would have gotten older too, but when the looks go and you still have inner beauty...you will never be alone.
Posted by: Mark | May 23, 2008 9:49:46 PM
Okay - soooo I'm really shallow here. I'm curious if Mr. Corden really has the goods in his jockstrap or has that been stuffed or retouched also?
On a personal level -- the man is hot. You can see it in his face. Ciao.
Posted by: Steven | May 24, 2008 10:23:59 AM
WTF? I stand by what I said. I'm hot. I get lots of attention, but I still have to work out, and yes, I can still wear boy's sizes (hence my love of Dior Homme).
"You have absolutely no character and lack any sense of decency. While you may be happy with your life at the moment" -- yes, I AM happy with my life right now, mainly because I've worked HARD to overcome some very difficult obstacles. And YES, I've gone to bed with fat men before (when I was a paid whore), and was disgusted. Maybe that's my hangup. "Decency?" - maybe not, but I'm still working on it.
Posted by: Chad | May 24, 2008 12:30:15 PM
This, this thread right proves to me that the gay community is no better than the Christian "right" in its condemnation of people who do not have the "perfect" body, the "perfect" job, and those people who actually have lives to live, and can not spend 12 hours a week at the gym. I am so f-ing sick and tired of all the f-ing bullsh!t that all you venom spewing body nazi assholes keep sending into the world. If you are not personally attracted to a chubby guy, then shut the fucking hell up. Do not tell a guy that is fat that "all it takes is will power" because you have no fucking clue what the hell you are talking about. There is more th people being fat than just lazyness. There is genetics, depression and whole slew of enviromental factors that are just now being explored. So, while yes, a nice tight body is prety to look at, it will fade, and just like some others have posted about, looks do fade, and if your inner self is ugly, but your outerself is prety, than you will be ugly.
Sorry, as a chubby guy, I am so sick of reading the venom that is spewed by some of the neo-facist body nazi's in/on this site.
Posted by: MNCrash | May 24, 2008 12:40:07 PM
Individuals who think that fat people are attractive are actually exhibiting matching behaviours -- in other words, they match themselves to who they think they can get and or are reflections of their own self worth.
Are studs ever in to fatties? No.
fatties are in to fatties.
Posted by: Non | May 24, 2008 4:38:27 PM
i think he's cute and he clearly is confident, and that's sexy. go james!
Posted by: Louise | May 24, 2008 9:33:19 PM
you are so wrong NON, i'm a big beautiful woman myself and have had many a stud.... chubby chasers come in all shapes and sizes so i know that "love has many faces" .... the title of a a fabulous lana turner movie to be shown on tcm tues the 27th at 3 p.m. pst... don't miss it...
Posted by: the queen | May 24, 2008 11:13:44 PM
Non -- I second The Queen. I've dated a very hot, very fit doctor and his only goal was to make me larger. He's what they call an "Encourager". There are NO sterotypes. One example that comes to mind is the motorcycle riders. These very butch, very well-built studs mostly have these very overweight woman riding on the back of their cycles. To each their own.
Posted by: sam in Chicago | May 25, 2008 11:24:49 AM
Boy, y'all sure know how to get "Liberal Guilt" workin' on a Liberal "queen", don't yall.
I thought about this THREAD all night Friday, and most of the day yesterday. No amount of Bourbon could get this discussion off my mind. I opened my big mouth and got caught in a trap of being portrayed as closed minded, cruel, shallow and dismorphic (I still haven't looked up the definition of "dismorphic"....why bother?)
In the gay world, anybody can be considered beautiful TO SOMEBODY....DAMMIT!
Look! I AM NOT A BIGOT AGAISNT HEAVY MEN!
Charles Barkley, heavy and SEXY!...and gay-friendly.
George Foreman, former Heavyweight Champion of the World, heavy and SEXY!
Edmond O'Brien, famous Hollywood actor, heavy and SEXY!
Jackie Gleason, great comedian and show biz personality, heavy and SEXY (with his fabulous Italian suits).
AL GORE, heavy and SEXY!
Raymond Burr, heavy and SEXY!
LL COOL J: before he got buff, he was heavy and SEXY!
AL SHARPTON & JESSE JACKSON, they are both now HEAVY and SEXY!
GOVERNOR BILL RICHARDSON (WITH HIS GOATEE) is heavy and SEXY!
The second photograph in this thread is NOT meant to make a statement about popular culture's prejudice against HEAVY people. It is meant to be AMUSING, and that's what I was commenting about on this thread.
At my age, I'll be grateful for ANY man who shows me some attention--EVEN A FUCKING REPUBLICIAN! (with some money and a car). All I ask is that if a BIG MAN gets me, that he MUST have a sturdy bed...'cause when he gets to humpin'-- I don't want the bed to break apart. Hell, he may hurt my tender stuff. I'm not as durable as my sister, THE QUEEN, on the West Coast.
Y'll have a great holiday weekend! REMEMBER THE TROOPS!...and curse the two idots in the White House who put them in Harm's Way.
Posted by: Derrrick from Philly | May 25, 2008 1:46:24 PM
Having known shitloads of 'hot men' in my time, personality is *everything*, Chad, and you can't buy that. It comes from who you are, how open you are and your life experience. 'Dior Homme' and other labels don't give you anything. You will learn. Take it from your elders.
Posted by: paul canning | May 25, 2008 1:53:36 PM
LANDON BRYCE!
From the gitgo, I regarded you and your opinions as important, and sincere, and genuine. I appreciate every posting you make to ANDY'S blog....and even though we disagreed on my skinny Barack Obama.
Take care,
Posted by: Derrick from Philly | May 25, 2008 2:21:04 PM
DERRICK:
Thanks. I have great respect and affection for you- sorry for being a jerk.
CHAD:
I'm really sad that circumstances in your life forced you to have sex with people you found disgusting. That's one of the reasons I am not sure that legalizing prostitution is a great idea. It's too easy for people to suffer sexual abuse that goes beyond what they would rationally consent to. If your negative reaction to fat men goes even deeper than what you express here, that could suggest that you may have been damaged by your experiences as a prostitute. Probably not- you're probably just sort of an asshole- but if you ever find yourself in therapy, bring it up.
Posted by: Landon Bryce | May 26, 2008 11:56:05 AM
MAKING FUN OF PEOPLE WHO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES IS JUST AS SHALLOW AND SOUNDS FAT AND JEALOUS!!!
Posted by: alan brickman | May 26, 2008 2:32:04 PM