but dahlings that's why granpa mcbush is going to be president because the majority of merkuns are stupid...
Posted by: the queen | Jul 17, 2008 8:58:59 AM
Posted by: wisebear | Jul 17, 2008 9:12:14 AM
oh why oh why oh why is this stupid old coot's face the first thing i see on towleroad this morning... yuck...
Posted by: the queen | Jul 17, 2008 9:32:25 AM
Which one is dumber, and, how many of the dumb voters in this country even care? Bush can't string together a sentence, and, McBush, is wrong on just about every subject he opens his mouth on.
Posted by: Sebastian | Jul 17, 2008 9:57:37 AM
McCain may be as dumb as Bush, but he isn't as offensive. I saw/heard his speech as the NAACP yesterday. He was gracious and seemed sincere. That scares the shit out me. I like to hate the Republican I'm voting against. I don't hate McCain, and that scares the shit out of me--it means he's likeable. I'll have to concentrate on the federal judiciary (especially the top court), and how Republicans and Democrats both use appointments to placate the extreme wings of their parties, that will help me to remember why I hate Republicans.
Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Jul 17, 2008 10:44:50 AM
As a U.S. citizen from 19th century immigrant roots, it hurts me to say what no politician will: we are ill-informed, intellectually lazy, self-centered dolts who would rather vote for a "like-able" C student instead of a bright well informed candidate. Most Americans do not have 4 year college degrees, and harbor resentments against "eggheads" and vote accordingly. It's a tragedy for our country.
Posted by: Brett | Jul 17, 2008 12:07:21 PM
Just because McCain chose the Republican party doesn't mean he's a Bush clone. He's actually pretty moderate, which is what this country needs. He just chose the GOP because God knows you can't get anywhere in this country without picking one of the two parties that is strangling this country.
Right now I'd rather have a candidate who I know where he stands. Sorry but "Change" is not a definitive political stance on anything.
Posted by: Amy | Jul 17, 2008 1:08:09 PM
Amy, it's time you start actually paying attention to the candidates and their positions, I believe. McCain is hardly moderate anymore, he was a moderate in 2000, now he's just another religious-right-enabling GOP fart. Barack has made a stand on far more things than McCain has, and he doesn't have to have an aide retract his comments every other day.
Posted by: ryot | Jul 17, 2008 2:14:51 PM
I can't say I'm excited to rush out and vote for either of these candidates.
This is the best we have? I'm mildly ashamed by the people my age, who are so enthralled by this image of Barack as a savior to American politics. How gullible can you be? The thing I hear over and over about Mr. Obama is that he is "refreshing".
Wonderful. I could go by a pack of Orbit gum and experience the same thing.
Posted by: Mook | Jul 17, 2008 2:19:54 PM
LOL! WTF, does having 19th century immigrant roots have to do with anything or someone's ability to judge other American's intelligence.
You sound like a second rate snob Brett that has a penchant for elitism...get some help.
Posted by: sheryl | Jul 17, 2008 2:53:30 PM
Good idea, MOOK. Let's just sit this one out. That way, we can piss and moan about whoever it is for another 4 years. They're both the same... exactly the same, right, MOOK? What do we care about war anyway, huh? War/peace/death/life? ... what do we care? People screwed over by how they were treated after Katrina? Offshore drilling? The courts? None of that matters at all, right, MOOK? It's *all* irrelevant to our lives, right?
Buy the damn gum. Have a nice life.
Posted by: soithoni | Jul 17, 2008 3:26:16 PM
Yes Mook buy the gum now. Because with a Barack "The Tax Man Cometh" administration, stagflation is just around the corner....bet on it.
Posted by: sheryl | Jul 17, 2008 3:38:27 PM
God, why do people bother defending McCain and pretending that he's moderate? Hello, did anyone bother do look at his HORRIBLE record on gay rights and women's rights?
McCain SUPPORTS the proposed ban on marriage in California. Knock, knock! Anyone home?
Look at his voting record.
And, talk about ignorant, McCain stated twice this past week that Czechoslovakia still exists! That must come as surprise to the Czech Republic and Slovak governments. Czechoslovakia split in two over a decade ago.
Yeah, that is important since the U.S. wants to put an anti-missile base in the Czech Republic and has discussed that point for the last year much to Russia's heated complaints. Someone who is going to be president should not be happily ignorant about facts that piss off a country like Russia that has 10,000 nuclear war heads, and a large stock pile of chemical and biological weapons material.
Apologists for McCain lack a grip on reality. Big deal if McCain shows up at the NAACP meeting. Whoopy! Do some research on his abysmal record of ignoring African-Americans in his home state.
All this crap about Republican moderates is the same baloney that people said about Bush in 2000. Remember "compassionate conservative"? How'd that work out for you?
Supreme Court? Who cares! Justice Department enforcement of Civil Rights laws? Who cares? Enactment of ENDA? Who cares? Repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell? Who cares!
McCain is such a nice guy. So what if he makes jokes about women enjoying being raped? What's a little misogyny? Ask his first wife or second wife? Well, for get about asking the first wife since she hates his guts for dumping her after she was crippled in a car accident. Cindy, on the other hand, doesn't mind being called a c*nt in public. (Hey, former feminist supporters of Hillary who plan to vote for McCain, you idiots!)
Posted by: noah | Jul 17, 2008 3:49:52 PM
how the hell did your president think he could wage a war without having the money to pay for it? Now, it's time for upper income Americans to pay for this mess the Republicans created.
Sheryl, as someone who thinks Romney is "a class [sic] guy" you're unqualified to speak.
Posted by: Jason | Jul 17, 2008 3:54:33 PM
Derrick, FYI Obama has voted to fund the war, so he thinks we have the money to pay for it.
Make no mistake Obama is not ending the Iraq War. He can't do it nor will he. He's telling you what ever you want to hear.
Don't you think it's odd how fast he tacked to the right and how far...guns, FISA, faith based groups, etc?
This guy is a politicians politician, Chicago style. He makes Romney's flips look like childs play.
Posted by: sheryl | Jul 17, 2008 4:12:33 PM
you know I couldn't even entertain the thought of voting for McCain or any Republican. It's just that watching him yesterday (at the NAACP covention), I thought he didn't come across as offensive as most Republicans do. I guess the Obama Campaign will have to take a cue from your above comment. They'll have to show what we'd get under that nice ol' man facade.
of course Barack Obama is a politician, and a very good one. He has a charisma that hasn't been seen in years. More importantly, he belongs to the political party which intends to try to undue the mess of George and Dick, and Barack may get them the 60 senators to stop Republican filibusters (whether he wins or not).
And how many US Senators voted against funding the troops once George the Idiot put the military folks in harm's way?
Whether you support Barack Obama or not, the Republicans must be made to take the blame for the horrible state of US affairs--foreign & domestic.
It's pretty damning. Key takeaway: Rich friends and cronies of Obama's makes a bunch of money off of public subsidies, while the buildings fall into despair, leaving poor people in either decayed living conditions and/or no place to live.
And so what if he has charisma and is a "rock star". Rock stars are mostly arrogant and trash hotel rooms.
And btw, quit treating our brave military as victims "putting in harms way"....Oh brother.
Derrick, they sign up so they can protect this nation from harm's way. That's what they do and they say so. Go here as proof:
Obama is our best hope. McCain will be more of the same eight years we've been through - just a different face. Americans cannot afford to let this opportunity slip away (yet again!).
Posted by: Zephyr | Jul 18, 2008 5:56:55 AM
It's so refreshing to read the comments of seemingly intelligent Towleroad readers out there who haven't been entirely indoctrinated and/or seduced into the media manufactured characterization of Obama as "Savior." Thank you Amy, Mook and Sheryl! It's true, many equally intelligent people that are supporting Obama don't seem to have investigated his past Illinois Senate record or what some of the local Chicago media outlets had to say about him at times. I will look into the Boston Globe link, thank you for that. He's a deft politician for someone so inexperienced and untouched by the "Usual Washington politics." He's charming, charismatic, eloquent and obviously has the intelligence to surround himself with people that know how to run a highly effective media campaign directed toward a pop culture driven America that may prefer form over substance.
Posted by: TMP | Jul 18, 2008 10:45:41 AM
You're welcome TMP.
I totally agree with what you say here: "highly effective media campaign directed toward a pop culture driven America that may prefer form over substance."
I think one of the main themes coming out of the campaign also is Obama's huge ego.
Krauthammer has an excellent piece about this very subject today. Excerpt:
"Americans are beginning to notice Obama's elevated opinion of himself. There's nothing new about narcissism in politics. Every senator looks in the mirror and sees a president. Nonetheless, has there ever been a presidential nominee with a wider gap between his estimation of himself and the sum total of his lifetime achievements?
Obama is a three-year senator without a single important legislative achievement to his name, a former Illinois state senator who voted "present" nearly 130 times. As president of the Harvard Law Review, as law professor and as legislator, has he ever produced a single notable piece of scholarship? Written a single memorable article? His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: himself."
I agree with Krauthammer about narcissism being a personality component in many a candidate. I thought the criticism of elitist was actually Obama's ego that many of us were seeing.
I'll certainly read the full Krauthammer piece.
One of the number of things that's off putting to me truly is the feeling I'm being manipulated by the mainstream media and their obvious selection of him. Any intelligent person realizes there is bias in media and that it's which camp you've pitched your tent in that decides which media campaign is correct in their assesment. But the soft coverage of Obama has been and continues to be over the top. His European tour is going to be something else in that regard.
To me there's as much wrong with television journalism deciding who the next president will be as there is with the U.S. Supreme Court making our decision.
In all fairness I think Obama is probably a good person, well intentioned and someday will make the mark on American history that he so wants to. He makes for an appealing candidate and I'd very much like to be a part of the generation that elects the country's first Afro-American as president. That which undeniably is part of his appeal to the people that define themselves as liberals.
But, I simply do not think this candidate is ready to occupy that office.