MEGA PROP 8 UPDATE: Nation Watches as Groups Make Final Push


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A final push is underway in California and across the nation to defeat Proposition 8. Here is another huge update about rallies that happened over the weekend as well as new reporting and media clips. I will likely continue updating this throughout the day today.

If you missed our weekend updates, you can find them HERE and HERE. In addition Barack Obama reiterated his positions on Proposition 8 and same-sex marriage in an interview with MTV that aired today.

The “No on Prop 8″ campaign urgently needs 10,000 volunteers on the ground to staff the final “No on Prop 8″ push. They’ve been signing many up but they need more.

road.jpg Here’s the final SICKENING ‘Yes on 8′ ad from the anti-gay, intolerant “protectors of marriage”.

road.jpg Spread the WORD. Send EMAILS here to everyone you know in California.

road.jpg SURVEY USA POLL: “81% of John McCain backers vote ‘Yes’ on CA Proposition 8, to redefine marriage. The more votes John McCain gets in CA, the better ‘Yes’ on 8 will do. 71% of Barack Obama backers vote ‘No’ on Proposition 8, to leave the definition of marriage unchanged. But white Obama backers and black Obama backers vote differently on 8, so it is an oversimplification to say, “the more votes Obama gets, the better ‘No’ on 8 will do.” The Bay Area is 2:1 against 8. Greater Los Angeles is 5:4 against 8. The Inland Empire and the Central Valley are 3:2 in favor of 8.”

Trickroad.jpg The “Yes on 8″ campaign’s Halloween trick.

road.jpg The Advocate goes deep into the belly of the “No on Prop 8″ campaign.

road.jpg The New York Times reports on the similarity between today’s Proposition 8 battle and Harvey Milk’s battle against the Briggs Initiative (Proposition 6) which would have banned gay teacher’s from the state’s public schools: “Call it life imitating ‘Milk,’ or vice versa, but the parallels between the campaign chronicled in the movie and the real-life battle over Proposition 8 are striking. Social conservatives pitted against gay activists? Check. A Republican governor (and former movie star) siding with gay Californians? Check. Close polls, a nationally watched campaign, the potential for heartbreak?”

road.jpg Nancy Pelosi went on KRON last night to express her opposition:

road.jpg AP: Gay marriage backers make the political personal: “In recent weeks, other gay opponents of the ban, including a Roman Catholic priest, a former Republican mayor and a small-town newspaper editor, came out of the closet to show how the issue cuts across religious and social lines.”

road.jpg I posted one of these over the weekend, but these are the latest (and possibly last) “No on 8″ ads:

Ashtonroad.jpg According to Californians Against Hate: “The new total Mormon money contributed to pass California’s Proposition 8 is now a staggering $22 million dollars! Just 8 out of state Mormons have given $2 million of the $3 million total in the last week alone. These are the 8 who have given $100,000 and more:

Alan Ashton, Lindon UT $1,000,000
Hartford Holdings, Provo, UT $300,000
David Moon, Alpine, UT $200,000
Michele Adams Watterson, Cache, UT $100,000
Roger Bayer, Salt Lake City, UT $100,000
Katharine Garff, Bountiful, UT $100,000
Belinda Vandersloot, Idaho Falls, ID $100,000
The Vineyard Group (Cardon & Hiatt Families), Mesa, AZ $100,000


road.jpg Last night in Salt Lake City, a group of Mormon mothers organized a “NO on Prop 8″ protest that drew hundreds of people: ” The group held a special candlelight vigil at the plaza of the Salt Lake Library and listened to a number of guest speakers. The event was organized by some LDS mothers who have gay children. They feel the LDS church’s support of Proposition 8 takes away the civil rights of their children and they urged Californians to vote no on the gay marriage ban. After the speeches, the group marched in a procession around the city block of the library.” More from MyFOX.

road.jpg Video of a “Yes on 8″ rally at L.A. City Hall.

road.jpg SF Chronicle: Both sides make last minute Prop. 8 push. “Checks of $500,000 or more are arriving from places like Cleveland; Brooklyn, N.Y.; Linden, Utah; and Bryn Mawr, Pa. A Kansas City minister brings thousands of evangelical Christians to San Diego’s Qualcomm Stadium for a religious/political rally. The New York Times writes an editorial endorsing a ‘no’ vote on Prop. 8, even though Sacramento is 2,800 miles from the paper’s Manhattan headquarters.”

road.jpg More on the anti-gay marriage rally in San Diego’s QualComm Stadium over the weekend lead by James Dobson of Focus on the Family and Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council from Truth Wins Out’s Wayne Besen.

Wehoroad.jpg “No on 8″ supporters rally in West Hollywood: “With less than 48 hours until Election Day, hundreds of “No on 8″ supporters gathered in West Hollywood Park on late Sunday afternoon, showing their resolve to defeat Proposition 8, the ballot measure that seeks to eliminate the right of gays and lesbians to legally marry in California. The peaceful demonstration was the largest of its kind in West Hollywood since May 15, 2008, when gays and lesbians celebrated the California State Supreme Court ruling that first legalized same sex marriage.”

road.jpg Feverish debate in Citrus Heights: “With three days to go before Proposition 8 is settled, protesters weren’t about to let rain hold them back. ‘I saw maybe 1,000 people,’ said protester George Popko. ‘But I don’t know how many more are out there.’ … ‘Pretty much everyone out here is honking for one side or the other. I don’t think anyone is neutral on this subject,’ said protester James Adams.” ARRESTS made.


CBS: Report on the Prop 8 Battle.

HOME INVASION: The Mormons taking their religion into our homes.

JOHN CHO: Harold & Kumar actor speaks out against Prop. 8.

FLASHBACK: San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders’ press conference in which he changed his position on same-sex marriage.

Obama Reiterates Position on Gay Marriage, Opposition to Prop 8 [tr]
Urgent: Help Get Out the Vote Against Prop 8 in California [tr]
Mega Prop 8 UPDATE: Weekend of Action [tr]


  1. Akaison says




    I think you left out some vital information. Meaning there isn’t any substantive racial difference. But, hey, don’t let the numbers stop the narrative.

  2. akaison says

    I think if I continue to see this deliberate racial breakdown by you I will simply conclude you have some problems with race. I won’t call you racist, but the lack of hard numbers on several occasions which tell the real picture versus your need to push common wisdom is wrong. You should be ashamed, but I doubt you are. I do agree we need to fight prop 8, but can we do it without demonizing a group that is clearly not as anti-gay rights as you are trying to make out? If for no other reason than you miss the obvious- right now where more messaging in CA needs to be targets is perhaps the latino vote which is trending our way but still down by a few percentage points.

  3. David B. says

    Advocate “deep into the belly” of NO ON 8? I don’t think so – they totally glossed over the amount of incompetence and cronyism of the unqualified leadership of NO ON 8 and EQ California that has lead to so many media and political professionals making their own efforts and buying their own media access to avoid pumping another cent into the NO ON 8 cash party.

    It’s quite sadly, bitterly, funny that the campaign and message that was sooo off the mark, so filled with internalized-homophobia, and wasted so much money was run by a Log Cabin Republican.

    We absolutely must come up with a strategy to create a national gay/lesbian congress whereby candidates skills can be tested so when the next Prop 8 comes up (undoubtedly next year) a selection can be made of TESTED AND PROVEN individuals to put on the management payroll – and make no mistake there’s been a wasteful, wasteful payroll.

    As far as the article is concerned, I just don’t understand what the Advocate is doing – what a fluff piece. They should have done a profile of each of the clueless management team and the idiotic board.

  4. Liz says

    It’s getting worse out here. Today at my home in Oakland, CA, I received a mailer that had a huge picture of Barack Obama and his quote “I’m not in favor of gay marriage” and underneath “Vote yes on Prop 8.” It is the most misleading thing as a voter that I’ve ever received. On the back are African American religious leaders with their pithy quotes.

    The new signs are “Prop 8″ = “Free Speech” and “Prop 8=Religious Freedom.”

    My “traditional family” will still vote no.

  5. HAL says

    Alan Ashton, Lindon UT $1,000,000
    Hartford Holdings, Provo, UT $300,000
    David Moon, Alpine, UT $200,000
    Michele Adams Watterson, Cache, UT $100,000
    Roger Bayer, Salt Lake City, UT $100,000
    Katharine Garff, Bountiful, UT $100,000
    Belinda Vandersloot, Idaho Falls, ID $100,000
    The Vineyard Group (Cardon & Hiatt Families), Mesa, AZ $100,000
    Don’t these people have businesses we can boycott?

  6. Sargon Bighorn says

    I know what marriage is and the rights it bestows. What’s “Gay-Marriage” is it something spacial that only Gay people get? What’s “Same Sex Marriage” is it something only Same Sex couples get? Why are there two marriages for Gay-Americans and only one for straight Americans? Is that fair? I don’t think so. Does CA now have a “Gay Marriage” License? No. So why continue to use a term coined by those that oppose Marriage Equality? If Prop 8 does change the Constitution of CA, in part it will be because of the use of LOADED terms like “Gay Marriage” and “Same Sex Marriage”. Stop using those loaded terms, they are blowing up in the face of Gay-Americans.

  7. says

    Despite their own opposition to 8 — and contributions to the opposition — Google has been accepting ads from the Yes side and peppering them all over websites today. LGBT sites, media sites, small business sites — all of them have been serving text ads and even banners, because Google did not put political ads in a separate feed, and because they took money in the face of their own principles.

    Until they address this, please turn off Ads by Google on your sites. Don’t inadvertently send a discriminatory and self-hating message.

  8. Kevin says

    Interesting article from the Advocate, especially the comment about “past mistakes”. I’ve donated on several occassions now to the cause, each time I receive the email I send more money.

    My concern, along with my partner and lots of people we know is the lack of urgency in the ads we’ve seen. We reside in San Francisco and maybe the really forceful ads are being played elsewhere but they are so…lame.

    Very soft spoken, not too menacing, basically lightweight. Sadly, that is NOT how the Yes on 8 proponents are advertising. They are direct, forceful and are using every tactic to tug at the fear of the voters.

    The group behind No on 8 seems to have taken the high road and I am very, very, very scared of the highway we are on! And just yesterday (Sunday) there was a full page ad in the San Francisco Chronicle from Yes on 8, where was the ad from No on 8?

    I could understand a few weeks ago having these issues but now that we know how the Yes on 8 group is advertising, how they are doing it, why do we still continue to play defense? Why are we not aggressively going after they misleading ads and directly confronting their lies?

  9. Aviel says

    I just got one of those automatic calls with a recorded message from Bill Clinton to vote No on 2 (FL’s equivalent of California’s Prop 8). Though CA has more at stake, I’m glad to see that Say No to 2 isn’t being forgotten in my own state.

  10. GregV says

    Just 24 hours till polls close. I just talked to Equality California and the NO ON 8 campaign still needs to raise $50,000 for their final-day reach-out to voters.

  11. Don says

    I see a potential problem with the Survey USA poll.

    According to the poll, all respondents oppose the measure by a 50-47 margin.

    Black voters are evenly split, so they are a wash. White voters come out at 50-47, the same as the breakdown for the entire respondent group, so whites are not moving the numbers in either direction. So it comes down to Asians and Hispanics.

    According to the poll, Hispanics (who make up 22% of respondents) are slightly in favor of prop 8, at 56-40. But Asians (making up 12% of respondents) are overwhelmingly opposed at 59-39. Wouldn’t the 20% anti-Prop 8 margin among Asians not only eradicate the 4% pro-8 edge among Hispanics, but also move the overall result of the poll to a more pro-gay outcome 50-47? It seems to me if you add up the results by race, the overall outcome should be a good deal better than 50-47.

    If anyone wants to take a crack at this, I am all ears.

  12. Paul says

    I voted yes on prop 8. Marriage, adoption, etc.. should only be between a man and a woman, end of story.

    What’s next? Wanting to marry a dog or goat? Maybe that’s next year for you guys.

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