Shepard Fairey: Obama’s Warren Invite a ‘Slap'; Makes Time Cover Commission ‘Bittersweet’

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Defendequality_shepardfaire_5Time‘s Person of the Year issue goes on sale tomorrow morning featuring President Elect Obama. Cover illustrator Shepard Fairey has just posted a statement on his site calling the moment "bittersweet because I’m very disappointed by Obama’s appointment of Rick Warren."

He continues, "Rick Warren is against gay marriage and reproductive rights, and he
does not believe in evolution (maybe he offers himself as proof of lack
of evolution). I understand that Obama is trying to appeal to
conservatives and evangelicals, but this move is symbolically a slap in
the face to many people. Warren is not a uniter, but a divider… he is
intolerant in many of his views. I still think Obama is the best choice
for president, but I can’t condone Warren’s involvement in Obama’s
inauguration, no matter how insignificant it is."

Fairey also says he’ll be donating a "chunk"of the proceeds from the Obama inauguration poster he was asked to create to the movement to overturn California’s Prop 8.

Full statement at  ObeyGiant

Fairey’s Defend Equality poster donation.

Comments

  1. Ed says

    Just thought it was interesting that the same arguement that 50 mostly Islamic countries made in opposing the UN initiative to decriminalize homosexuality was the same arguement that Warren made to oppose same sex marriage (pedophilia and incest).
    “More than 50 countries opposed to the declaration, including members of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, issued a joint statement Thursday criticizing the initiative as an unwarranted attempt to give special prominence to gays and lesbians. The statement suggested that protecting sexual orientation could lead to “the social normalization and possibly the legalization of deplorable acts” such as pedophilia and incest”

  2. St. Theresa of Avila says

    This was a ham-fisted, clumsy move on Obama’s part, but I wouldn’t quite call it stupid. He thinks he’s “reaching out” but it will be a hollow, meaningless gesture by MOST followers of Warren and his ilk, who hate Obama. There probably is some slim fraction of the evangelical vote, especially younger ones, who will feel “rewarded” by this for having voted for Obama. They should feel very special, shouldn’t they?

    But let’s not make a mountain out of a molehill. It’s still symbolic, not policy. Policy is what is going to make history, not who speaks at the inaugural. Does anybody even remember which religious figures spoke at Chimpy’s inaugurals? Do Republicans even remember that sort of minutiae? If The Democratic Congress and Obama repeal DADT – though I would say don’t hold your breath for the first year because there are other legislative priorities – that would turn a sociological tide so great that 20 fat, ugly, hypocritical televangelist schmucks couldn’t hold it back.

  3. Thirteen says

    You know…(mostly white) gays are always complaining about black homophobia (as if white homophobia didn’t exist)and blacks in the closet (as if the thousands of openly blacks weren’t enough for them)

    And then when pro-gay black heterosexuals or openly gay black people attempt to “showcase” themselves, (most white) gay people find something to distract themselves with, ignoring whats in front of them…case in point: Joseph Lowery.

    Racial relations in the gay community, a one act play

    LGBT People of color: We’re here, we’re queer, and we’re ignored.

    White LGBT people: Non whites need to come out.

    Openly LGBT blacks: We’re ignored.

    White LGBT people: Where are they? They need to come out.

    Openly LGBT blacks: We’re ignored.

    White LGBT people: Gosh! See what black homophobia is doing. They’re still in the closet.

    Openly LGBT blacks: Forget it.

    The End

  4. Sean the Pooftah says

    great catch, Ed. Yes, Warren is in bed with the anti-gay forces throughout the world, including the Islamic forces, even as he calls for the assassination of the leader of one of these countries, Iran.

    And you know what, St. Teresa, you are right. It’s not policy, it’s much worse than that. Bush came out in Feb 2004 and called for a federal amendment against gay marriage that had no chance and was purely symbolic, and yet it gave cover to every far-right abuser to push anti-gay-rights votes in state and local elections. Rick Warren was one of those anti-gay leaders who was able to gain power during this time.

    That is one of the reasons why this sucks so much. Another is that I’m done with politicians just not “getting it” about the realities of gay people’s lives. Enough.

  5. DONOVAN says

    To thirteen: so gays shouldn’t be complaining about having someone with Warren’s views at the inauguration? Why the fuck not? Is criticism of Obama not allowed for some reason…? The glbt community would be and should be complaining if it was anyone else, mixed black or white. Ok, so it’s not policy. Ok, so it’s a symbolic gesture.

    Here’s the bottom line; Warren’s a homophobe, and we have the right to be critical and agree or disagree with the choice without being told to shut up or being immediately accused of racism.

  6. Thirteen says

    Donavan

    I’m merely pointing out that we also have a strong pro-gay black male giving the benediction? Can’t there be a little celebration in that? Jeez. No ones telling you to shut up or accusing you of racism. This is just an example of how the Gay white establishment just doesn’t get it.

  7. Thirteen says

    Donavan

    I’m merely pointing out that we also have a strong pro-gay black male giving the benediction? Can’t there be a little celebration in that? Jeez. No ones telling you to shut up or accusing you of racism. This is just an example of how the Gay white establishment just doesn’t get it.

  8. Chapeau says

    This cretin’s comparison of Gay Marriage to Bestiality, Incest (and I really don’t get this one) Polygamy — which *is* the 5000 yr old blueprint in *the book* … is More than a SLAP — it shows just how ignorant this man truly is … and how frightening that even President Elect Obama feels he has to suck up to such a puke!

    FALWELL IS DEAD! LONG LIVE FALWELL !!

    Now we have FALWELL the SEQUEL.

  9. jason says

    I warned you about Obama many moons ago. As a result, I was pilloried, castigated, cajoled and cast aside. I said then that he was a typical Democratic Party liberal male with a bisexual double standard. These sorts are all for gay rights but only so long as it’s “two hot chicks”. The only reason these sorts say they are for gay rights is so they can gain sexual access to silly malleable lesbians and attention-seeking bisexual women.

  10. Dave says

    Derek, exactly whose style has Shepard Fairey “ripped off”? Are you familiar with any of his previous work or have any knowledge of his history, influence on young artists, or the inspiration he’s had on art, design or popular culture in general? Doesn’t quite sound like it. He’s been going strong for 20 years now, his work has grown by creative leaps and bounds (especially over the past 5 years), and he’s basically created the single most iconic, recognizable image in the public eye of our next POTUS. Not only that, but he’s also a straight guy in a primarily straight culture (i.e.: street art, guerrilla art, DIY) who is admired by, looked up to and respected by many younger people today, and here he is speaking out for our rights and fighting our fight alongside us. That, in and of itself, speaks volumes about his authenticity and integrity.

  11. Donald says

    I’ve never understood why people act so surprised when a, or any, politician begins acting like a politician after their election. Obama is going to focus on his own best interests, which aren’t necessarily the best interests of those that have supported him.

  12. Paul says

    Let’s get one thing St-hate Rick Warren most likely gave several million dollars to have this oppurtunity and this so called choice was not just a decision by Obama but a host of staffers…

  13. Richard says

    Warren at the Inaugration by Obama’s invitation is deplorable. I’m not all that convinced Obama’s even vaguely concerned with the civil rights of gay (read MALE gay) Americans.

    I wanted Hillary for the job … but no. Now with the passing of Prop 8 in California we see 70% of the vote to disallow same sex marriage from blacks who’ve bought into the White Man’s Religion.

    Between Obama having to affirm and reaffirm his Christianity and this Warren crap I’m convinced we’re still on that proverbial back burner.

  14. Jonathon says

    Come on, people. We have to get our gay at together. We elected Obama because we voted for change, and we also voted for his deeply principled attitude toward leadership and bringing people together.

    This is America. This is the country where people are free to have differing beliefs and still live with one another in the same country. Not everyone is going to agree with us, and not everyone in a leadership position is going to agree.

    Who cares what Rick Warren believes? We need to respect him as an American, and we need to respect Obama’s decision to have him speak. Rather than seeing it as a symbolic slap to our community, we need to understand it as a symbolic step towards unity. If we keep divisiveness going by insisting that the only visible and prominant people in our country are the people who believe the same as we do and support us unconditionally and will always do the right thing as we define it, we’re really dissing the very principles on which this country was founded.

    Get over yourselves, stop being so self-centered, and open your hearts a bit rather than insisting that everyone have an open heart for you first. Obama’s president-elect! This is a major step forward in unparalleled tumultuous times. Work with him instead of holding everything he does under a narcissistic microscope. This Rick Warren thing is nowhere near as terrible as everyone is making it. If we want equality, we have to treat people as equal too, remember.

  15. GregV says

    Jonathan, I believe that Rick Warren and his family should be able to live a safe and productive life with exactly the same rights afforded to him that my family and I have. That IS respecting him as an American.
    Warren not only believes that I am a second class citizen, but actively works to convince others to change Constitutions so that I will be treated as lesser than he. That is NOT respecting me and other gay people as Americans.
    @Thirteen: You have a point. But as many other gay people, I get tired of giving more benefit of the doubt to everyone than anyone would normally be expected to give to anyone.
    Imagine a white president invites a prominent anti-Black Segregationist white preacher to feature prominently in his inauguration (someone who says giving rights to blacks is like giving them to rapists or to wild animals, for example). Would blacks be happy if this white president also invited a white preacher who has black friends and a black marching band as a contingent in the parade?
    Imagine Obama were to invite an imam who has been fighting to take away women’s right to vote. Would it make up for it if he also had some other man on stage who is known to support a woman;’s right to vote, and then a women’s choir singing on a float?
    I don’t think anyone else in society but gay people would be expected to give a pass to an invitation to a speaker who attacks their rights like Warren does ours.

  16. Jack Scribe says

    “Reaching out?” To a minister who compares same sex marriage to bestiality and incest? It’ll be interesting to watch the Hollywood crowd, who are paying $50,000 for a prime inaugural seats, kissing butt big time.

  17. voodoolock says

    Richard, you need to get your facts straight:

    “Now with the passing of Prop 8 in California we see 70% of the vote to disallow same sex marriage from blacks who’ve bought into the White Man’s Religion.”

    Do you really think it’s possible that in a state as large and diverse as California that 70% of the vote for Prop 8 came from black voters? I think what you mean to say is that 70% of the blacks who voted, voted for Prop 8. The black vote did not tip the scale on Prop 8 one way or the other. What about the Latino vote? Why don’t you get mad at them? You’ve fallen into a trap set by the press to make the LGBT community look racist and divided.

    BTW, many people are religious, (I’m not). But it’s a gross generalization when you say all black people have “bought in.” You claim to be a Hillary supporter, I like her too, even though she wants to bomb Iran. I doubt she’d approve your message, and if she was as easily swayed against blacks as you are, I never would have supported her for one second.

    Open your mind, and keep it open, please.

  18. Leland Frances says

    Don’t know about you 13 but I’ve MET the Rev. Joseph Lowery, thank you. I hosted him many yrs. ago for an anti Vietnam War event. He IS a rare, eloquent, loving, Christ-like man, and the fact that Obama’s invitation to Warren ALSO signals to people that O thinks he is Lowery’s equal in every way is yet another OBSCENITY. Warren isn’t worthy of wiping Lowery’s ass.

    And Lowery’s words from so long ago about warmongers have rung in my ears everytime I’ve heard a hatemonger, and they fit PERFECTLY for WARREN:

    “Their lying tongues strut through the earth.”

    The artist who turned Obama’s mediocre, gangly visage into an international icon of something greater than all of us “gets it” but his subject is still groping in the dark. Or rather is NOT even trying to understand. He simply took his moldy, jejune justification for inviting/not disinviting Donnie “Gays Are Trying to Kill Our Children” McClurkin to a gospel and grits show in South Carolina, crossed out Donnie’s name and wrote in Warren’s to attempt to disguise the neo-Nazi elephant in the middle of the biggest room a billion+ people will be peering into January 20th as someone no more morally repugnant than a bad case of halitosis.

    Barack Obama is not about Change; he is about defending the status quo that we are not living and DYING people but “issues” that it’s peachy keen to disagree about. We interupt this os so polite debate to bring you the funeral of the next Matthew Shepard, Lawrence King, or Gwen Araujo.

    Repeat: Obama would never have invited any preacher, no matter how big his following, who had equated blacks, Jews, Asians, Latinos, fill-in-the blank EXCEPT FOR GAYS with child molestors and had been one of the gang leaders in an election to take away blacks’, et al.’s, civil rights.

    And those springing to Obama’s defense with the idea that it’s not really that serious, blah blah blah are like a wife beater saying to his bleeding, broken spouse, “What the fuck are you whining about. I didn’t kill you did I?”

    GET OFF YOUR STOMACHS! STOP BENDING OVER AND STAND UP GAY! BOYCOTT THE INAUGURATION. DEMAND A REFUND OF ANY DONATIONS YOU MADE TO HIS CAMPAIGN.

    Barack Obama has fallen victim to the worst disease any potential leader can: BELIEVING his own hype. He is not a part of the solution. He is a part of the problem.

  19. Michael says

    THIRTEEN: I agree with you 100%. I think that the white majority in the gay community (which mirrors the proportional percentage in the nation) dominates the discussion about gay issues, especially when it comes to civil rights. Too much of the debate seems focused on internal racial bickering to scapegoat groups for the passage of Prop 8. That argument definitely needs to be buried.

    That said, Obama’s attempt to include a segment of the population that is violently opposed to gay civil rights in the inauguration celebration with his invite of Rick Warren seems like a step backward. Having another preacher of the opposite mindset close the ceremony doesn’t fix this – it just highlights the wide divide.

    I don’t know what the solution is for the internal racism thwarting the gay civil rights movement, but I do know what it is not. We should not ever roll over in the face of insult. We should not allow the perpetuation of stereotypes in mainstream media to continue without objection. We should not stand by idly when our elected officials (no matter their color) pander to a hateful segment of the population.

  20. Matt says

    This is was not a mistake; this is exactly what they wanted. Obama and his team are smart people. They knew that by picking Warren, the gay community would be all up in arms over it. They knew it was get press and the whole nation would be aware of this issue. By not removing Warren he is showing America that he does not curtail his beliefs to special interests. We were a disposable group.

  21. John in CA says

    Matt,

    Exactly.

    The brainwashed minions who still insist this is all a clever plan by Barack Obama to further gay rights are completely delusional. This is a clever plan by Barack Obama to further Barack Obama’s 2012 re-election campaign.

    It is brilliant poltically. Nobody denies that. But to assert that it is some wonderful scheme by the Dear Leader to win over Rick Warren on same-sex unions…is simply absurd beyond words. It is cynical and self-serving move by a savvy politician who’s quite comfortable with having a forked tongue.

  22. Yeek says

    Matt has it right. This is Obama’s prelude toward “look, I tried to be reasonable with those people.” He keeps his cool and we get furious, and then he can dispassionately wash his hands of us and all the promises he made.

  23. Derrick from Philly says

    “It is cynical and self-serving move by a savvy politician who’s quite comfortable with having a forked tongue.”

    Sounds like something first said by some fervent abolitionist Republican about Abe Lincoln before he signed the Emancipation Proclamation?

    “You’ve thrown us under the bus, Abe!”

    “What’s a bus”, said Honest “down low” Abe.

    There will be other issues coming up over the next 4 years. I’ll judge Barack Obama on those, and his federal judicial appointments.

    The symbolism of Rick Warren giving the invocation his inauguration may hurt President Obama with some gays, but not all of us are ready to jump ship yet.

  24. mwk12kev says

    Thank you, Richard: so well said! (Dec 19, 2008 9:42:03 AM)!

    We need to embrace all equally and live by this example if we are to have all the rights that we deserve. Making a major issue of this does nothing but foster further divisiveness — a well worn tactic of the very people that are leaving office! Fundamentally, I’m not totally comfortable with Warren’s choice but I feel taking the high road furthers our cause in ways yet to be seen. Thanks again.

  25. Derrick from Philly says

    I meant in President Lincoln’s LACK of signing an Emancipation Proclamation early enough for Radical Republicans–those he threw under the bus.

    Barack is something like Ol’ Abe Lincoln–trying to make friends once he becomes president….keeping an eye on his enemies: right-wing nut enemies and now some gay enemies. He aint stupid though–don’t try to out smart him, angry “children”.

    And we blacks had to wait another 110 years for any real freedom after Abe signed the proclamation…get my drift?

  26. GaryCarlton says

    The good news: the homo agenda meshes well with the liberal agenda. We will make progress. The bad news: we’re disposable, and a small enough minority that it doesn’t matter when tossed aside (and despite my affection for Hillary, may I remind you of DADT in the early Clinton years?).

  27. MAJeff says

    Part of the problem, not necessarily with the entire situation, but with the conversations on these boards, is how many conversations are flying past each other.

    I, too, am pissed and hurt. I don’t, however, think that this is that absolute greatest outrage ever. Yes, Warren is an hateful bigot who shouldn’t be anywhere near the dais. He isn’t simply an opponent, but an enemy of LGBT people. And President-Elect Obama fucked up. He’s shown himself, on several occasions to be pretty tone deaf when it comes to LGBT folks and our rights. Anyone surprised? He’s never been the lefty people made him out to be; he’s always been a center-lefty, with an emphasis on center. And he’s always been better than our opponents/enemies on the right, like McCain/Palin. And, as Rachel Maddow pointed out last night, he’s drawing a false equivalency when compares Warren inviting him to the Saddleback Shithole and his own invitation of Warren to a national inauguration. Then again, all sorts of people are drawing false equivalencies, including a hell of a lot of our “friends.” They’re making it seem as though Warren’s support of Prop 8, instead of him being anti-gay and anti-woman more generally, are the issues.

    Well, on the heels of Prop 8, inviting a bigot like this feels particularly like a kick in the teeth, and in that way, PE Obama, like most of the Democratic Party, and a lot of “progressives” retain their own tone-deafness with regard to our lives.

    There’s something we should consider, though, is a tale from FDR’s presidency. When he asked A. Philip Randolph about what he could do to improve the nation, and after hearing Randolph’s response, he said something to the effect of “That sounds like a good idea. Now go and make me do it.”

    President-Elect Obama is not going to simply push for LGBT equality. He is going to have to be PUSHED to work for LGBT equality. Just as a President Clinton would have.

  28. Vi Agara says

    Well, well, well. What have we here. Ehrenstein hating on Nobama. Wonders shall never cease. Who predicted this? Me. And I’m always right. And another prediction for you all. ITs just beginning.

  29. Jason says

    This entire fight for gay marriage has been wrong. The gay rights movement has become the gay marriage movement. We don’t even have universal worker protection yet. Keep pushing this (most divisive) issue, gays, and we’ll get nowhere. We skipped A LOT of steps.

  30. anon says

    While I was the last person who wanted Hillary in the oval office, I would have to admit that she would not have done this. (She might have invited Mark Rich to the party, but not Warren.)

    I’m beginning to see the baneful influence that the Big O (as in Oprah) is having here. She is basically responsible for elevating Warren because of his stupid little book (Purpose Driven Life), and she has no doubt been part of the marketing of Little O (as in Obama), they symbolism they are using here, and possibly the selection of other advisers.

  31. says

    Mr. President-elect:

    First we lost Prop 8, then you bypass Mary Beth Maxwell for Labor Secretary, and now you’ve “Rick-Rolled” us with this Warren crap!

    C’mon!

    Throw us a bone, Dude!

    Wait a sec.

    That didn’t sound quite right.

  32. glennmcgahee says

    I got tired of beating my head against the wall when everyone here worshiped at Obama’s feet so I gave in and have started praying to him also. Now, I’ll join the right-wingers and condemn my own relationship and accept that I’m no better than a pedophile and oh yea, abortion is evil and those who participate are going to hell. I’m planning to stone neighbors soon. I’m trying as hard as I can to fit in with this enlightenment you all promised. I’m so ashamed of myself now. But at least I can stop wondering what took over your minds all last year.

  33. Please says

    Jeez, its David Ehrenstein, the one trick pony.

    All that comes from his mouth is a noun, a verb, and anything against black people and Obama.

    This is what defines Ehrenstein entirely.

  34. Leland Frances says

    Brother Derrick, the manifesto of that ship you’re not ready to jump yet reads, “Cargo: millions of gay slaves to a man who doesn’t take them seriously.”

    Fool me once [McClurkingate]: shame on you. Fool me twice [Warrengate]: shame on me.

    And “shame” is exactly what describes Obama’s trivializing us once again while symbolically elevating a parochial piss ant to the level of a civil rights leader like Lowery.

    BOYCOTT THE INAUGURAL! DEMAND YOUR CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS BACK [ya won’t see a dime but you can imagine the Dems squirming about how much milk gay cash cows will be willing to give in 2010 and 2012].

  35. carlin says

    Change my foot! Obama could have invited a moderate or mainstream religous leader to give the invocation. Instead Obama has simply proven that we can not trust him and should have supported Hillary.

  36. Michael Bedwell says

    “David Ehrenstein … anything against black people”…. That sound you hear, “Please,’ is David laughing YOUR ass off. Another lesson in why fools should look before they shoot.

    ROTFLMAO.

  37. says

    Response to GaryCarlton:

    Small enough minority. Six million gay people voted for Obama. That’s well more than half of his 9.5 million vote margin over McCain. He might have still won without our vote, but the mandate wouldn’t have been there.

  38. Jimmyboyo says

    —————BREAKING NEWS—————–

    They lied. yes on Prop 8 people using Ken Star (yes, that Ken star) are going after the 18,000 gay marriages in CA

    They filed a while ago with the CA supreme court to NULLIFY the 18,000 gay marriages. Something they promised they weren’t after.

    Insult upon insult upon injury which makes Warren’s support for Yes on prop 8 even more of an insult by Obama in having him at his inaguration

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/19/191917/42/39/675251

    Though this has a silver lining in that it could really push the Ca supremes to toss prop 8 even more.

  39. Richard says

    Leland Francis nails it:

    “Repeat: Obama would never have invited any preacher, no matter how big his following, who had equated blacks, Jews, Asians, Latinos, fill-in-the blank EXCEPT FOR GAYS with child molestors and had been one of the gang leaders in an election to take away blacks’, et al.’s, civil rights.

    And those springing to Obama’s defense with the idea that it’s not really that serious, blah blah blah are like a wife beater saying to his bleeding, broken spouse, “What the fuck are you whining about. I didn’t kill you did I?”

  40. On the same page says

    Weird how some commenters have twisted this into some kind of race relations issue. Huh??? Joseph Lowery is fantastic. I don’t know anyone here who is disputing that in the slightest. We are all expecting Obama to pick cool peeps. What draws our attention is when he doesn’t. To wit, an evil slime named Rick Warren.

    Anyway, I really appreciated Mr. Fairey’s very earnest and clear statements. There is something truly heartbreaking about Obama’s choice of Warren, and Fairey expressed that quite well.

    If we are in fact being used as political pawns, it’s going to backfire. The pro-Prop. 8ers hoped Prop. 8 passage would end the matter. Ha. If anything, it’s had the opposite of the effect intended, and Maggie Gallagher and so forth have been freaking out about it.

    I personally wish I had the time and money to protest Rick Warren every time he set foot in public.

  41. RICEDOC says

    My two cents on this Warren invocation issue:

    At first sight, it is a confusing, disappointing, contradictory choice of speaker at an Obama, of all people, inauguration. The outrage of the glbt community is justified on so many levels and I’m glad this backlash is happening. It is reminder to a future Obama administration that we are to be taken seriously, and that we will keep a watchful eye on the realization of the campaign promises and the passage of pro-gay, pro-equality, anti-homophobia legislation. So, yes, the gay man in me is not happy, but will give the president-elect the benefit of the doubt. And here is why: in all aspects of life, I like to see the big picture and, in addition of being gay, I’m also a scientist and a citizen worried about the state of our planet and the environment. Just look at whom Obama is picking as members of his cabinet and as advisers. He has selected outstanding, deserving individuals and has sent a message to the country and the world that his administration will end the Bush era of paranoid fear of science and dismissal of fact-based policy-making. Those choices reflect to me that he is delivering on his campaign promises and that he means change. However, I do not expect a change of status quo overnight, especially in regards to civil rights issues. The last 8 years have been so catastrophic, the religious right movement has ruined this country, and the first thing to do is some damage control. I understand that I’ll have to be patient to see the change I’m expecting to see.

    What surprises me the most is that Rick Warren, knowing Obama’s position on abortion, gay rights and evolution, would accept to be a part of his inauguration program. The other argument could be made (if you are a bible-thumping, homophobic, religious nutcase) that Warren is ‘selling-out’. So I don’t necessarily see Obama’s selection of Warren as a statement that he agrees with him at all or that he is turning his back on the glbt community. His actions on other fronts prove to me Americans made the right choice on November 4th. Just try to scratch the surface and see the BIG PICTURE.

  42. nic says

    obama’s hero is lincoln, so it is understandable that he wants to ingratiate himself to people with opposing views, even though they may not have opposable thumbs. but that is the crux of it. is this sham-good-man (warren) worth it? is he really worth offending the Left and the gays (log cabinettes excluded) and any other free-thinking people?

    i know that our intellectual numbers are not great in THIS country, but in most modernized nations, the consensus is that evolution is much closer to a fact than creationism is; reproductive freedom for women is the norm; marriage between same-sex people is not disruptive to the “sacred” institution of marriage.

    so why would a HARVASRD EDUCATED PRESIDENT-ELECT suffer this fool? political expediency? a crass, flea-ridden stratagem? hillary would not have taken that tactic. but then, she lost. she was out-flanked by obama’s caucus state strategy.

    obama is not a man devoid of guile. however, the selection of this rube to lead the invocation to the crowning of the president of “the land of the free”, is an affront to many people. i can only hope that this was simply a stupid, stupid stunt — a first misstep in an otherwise perfect transition.

  43. nic says

    this is, to me, nothing more and nothing less than cheap political theater; grandstanding at its most venal — pandarus-elect trying to marry the reasonable to the unreasonable. and to what end?

    if this is obama’s answer to “mission accomplished”, all hope is gone. am i pissed? oh, you betcha! but more-so than than that, i am disgusted. change? we don’t need no stupid changes!

  44. Jimmyboyo says

    Ricedoc

    Actually anti-choicers are flipping out and calling Warren a “sell-out” for appearing with Obama due to Obama’s pro-choice record. MSNBC reported on it yesterday

    NIC

    I’m with you. Lets hope this is the one and only stupid stupid f up in an otherwise exceptional transition.

  45. Ciaran O Faolain says

    I am not American, though my two older children are. I followed the election every day, and ran out on the street singing when Obama won. I regard Obama’s choice of Warren as an utter disgrace. As Maddow and others have pointed out, Warren has compared gays to pedophiles. There is no basis for irresponsible statements like that, or for Warren’s views on evolution for that matter. In the end, there’s no excuse in the world for the choice. I think a boycott would be an entirely appropriate response.

  46. Just No One says

    So here’s my little input on the whole situation:

    It’s an inaugural service.

    One pastor person doesn’t determine the beliefs of one man. Or maybe it does, but it shouldn’t matter, because we live in a constitutional republic, which means all of our rights as citizens are written out in the constitution and what not. So…. that being said, majority rules, not elite. Just because Obama chose one pastor guy to lead his inaugural service doesn’t mean we have to abide by Obama’s or the pastor’s beliefs.

  47. Please says

    “David Ehrenstein … anything against black people”…. That sound you hear, “Please,’ is David laughing YOUR ass off. Another lesson in why fools should look before they shoot.

    ROTFLMAO.”

    Hey Bedwell, I’m completely aware David E is 1/4 black. In the last two years of reading from this racist fuck, nothing positive about black people or Obama for that matter has come out of his mouth. His one drop of negro blood doesn’t protect him from criticism.

  48. Please says

    “David Ehrenstein … anything against black people”…. That sound you hear, “Please,’ is David laughing YOUR ass off. Another lesson in why fools should look before they shoot.

    ROTFLMAO.”

    Hey Bedwell, I’m completely aware David E is 1/4 black. In the last two years of reading from this racist fuck, nothing positive about black people or Obama for that matter has come out of his mouth. His one drop of negro blood doesn’t protect him from criticism.

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