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  1. Ace says

    Gotta love it when people comment just to mention how much they aren’t interested in something. All. The. Time.

    That said – hilarious. Well done, Mrs. DeGeneRossi!!

  2. Marc says

    Wow! Am I the only one to say AWESOME JOB !
    WELL DONE !

    This was great !

    What’s wrong with you guys and gals?

    Still upset about Natasha?
    LIFE goes on and on and on, let’s go!

  3. Danny says

    I love Portia De Rossi, and Ellen Degeneres, and gay marriage, and being gay myself, but…

    I really don’t think this is actually very funny or clever. Paper cuts? Not much of a zinger. Why not focus on how her marriage hasn’t affected Prop 8 supporters in ways they actually campaigned/fear-mongered about (e.g. K-12 education.) The idea for the spot is good, but it wasn’t executed (by which I mean written, not acted – again, mad props to Ms. De Rossi) to its full potential.

    Better luck next time, J.Kim.

  4. TANK says

    ha ha, I may be a tool, but you’re nothing special. I think this was pathetic, to be honest with you. More effete posing…in sending up the opposition (everyone). I agree with hannah arendt here. No plea for human decency or basic human rights is going to tip the balance in favor of one maligned and discriminated against minority. “give us! Look at how pathetic we are!” BOOOHOOO. It never has in the history of humankind. Genocide is political, and sure as shit so is institutional bigotry and discrimination; anything which seeks to strip you of humanity and class you as a THING. You gotta fight, fight hard, and lose some blood. Claim your homeland as your own, and tell those that claim it and exclude you to fuck themselves; that you’re entitled–moreso than they are, in fact. And comedy? That’s what this shit is, right? Comedy makes people laugh. It doesn’t win rights. This is weakness. The only thing we have at our disposal is a public message? A humorous joke? It wasn’t even that funny. In fact, this isn’t funny, regardless of the intent. This is people’s lives. Fuck this elite dyke and her elite lifestyle, and fuck YOU for buying into this media shit. These are entertainers. Wake the fuck up, people. Entertainers aren’t activists, and they sure as shit aren’t gonna FIGHT for you when the chips are down. And they’re more than down now. We don’t have any chips to play, in fact.

    Yeah, I’m a douche…and I couldn’t care less. I look at this site quite often, and am dismayed. If this is any indication of what we have to fight this fight with, we’ve already lost. You’re weak, pathetic men. Understand? WEAK MEN. Embrace it, and STEP ASIDE, FUCKERS. We need strong, angry motherfuckers who aren’t going to settle and laugh, and use satire when we’ve lost to SHAME the opposition. There’s no shaming them. You need to TAKE what’s yours. Not ask for it, or be polite aobut it. TAKE IT. RIP IT OUT OF THEIR HANDS, and SPIT IN THEIR FACES. Weak men deserve nothing, and get nothing.

  5. John says

    If everything bothers you so much, why bother commenting all the time, Tank. Sure as shit everything you catalogued there won’t do the job, but neither will anonymous internet comments.

  6. mike says

    She was doing a light hearted appearance on a comedy show to promote her new comedy. The mock announcement was fine and fit the occassion. Ellen and Portia have both expressed their views about gay marriage and prop 8 before anyway and been very open about their marriage.

    Straights like Ellen and Portia and a lot of the public has embraced them as a couple, and that and their highly non-threatening quality is good for changing attitudes and getting straights more comfortable with the idea of gay couples and gay marriage. They are a great public face for gay marriage. People play different roles in achieving cultural revolution, and there is more than one way to have an impact.

  7. qjersey says

    Susan Jones was so upset by gay marriage that she could no longer perform oral sex on her husband leading to the end of her marriage.

    Fred Smith was so upset by gay marriage that on a business trip he had random sex with a stranger who got pregnant and called his wife, ending his marriage.

    John Davies was so upset by gay marriage, he pushed subprime mortgages on married couples to save neighborhoods.

    Steve Thompson was so upset by gay marriage that he accepted a 2 million dollar bonus from AIG he didn’t deserve.

  8. fsemery says

    Bravo TANK!!! It’s time for every hit we take from anyone, we give it back twenty times. Keep the word marriage, but give me rights like any heterosexual couple. Build muscles, but know how to fight back…..I could go on and on…..

  9. tj says

    I think I’m in love with Tank…one for actually believing in activism – real activism and two, for referencing Arendt…not that I agree with your reading but the fact that you’ve read her and understand her make it awesome…

    We need to be in the street rather than the bars…

  10. says

    Oh yes, no one’s ever heard of Hannah Arendt. *Rolls eyes*

    Look Tank, your point is well taken, but posting anonymous Internet comments and naming yourself shit like TANK doesn’t really make you any tougher, more masculine, or better than any of us, no matter how many names you can list off your Poli Sci 101 syllabus. If you expect the type of activism you wish to see from the Jimmy fucking Kimmel show you have some serious problems, aside from all the obvious ones.

    You can yell and scream and be an obnoxious cunt and “take” whatever it is you think that is yours, but please, spare us your lame anti-establishment rhetoric. This isn’t 1989, and we don’t need ACT UP anymore. No, equality will certainly not be achieved through ridiculously self-indulgent HRC charity dinners, and we shouldn’t sit around waiting for celebrities to do our work for us, but entertaining grandiose and vaguely violent fantasies about “activism” is childish, doesn’t exactly endear us to anyone either, and, quite frankly, is the opposite and equal extreme. There’s some middle ground, ya know. Douche.

  11. TANK says

    david ehrenstein= poor, bad writer and sloppy looking old man with nothing to say at length. If anyone lives under a bridge, ehrenstein, you fit the bill in appearance and attitude to a T. Ugly through and through. Another irrelevant elderly faggot hanging on at the very fringes of f list celebritay.

    Anyway, the rest of you ladies (and yes, I mean it pejoratively because you’re certainly not men) can go to hell. Yes, it’s childish… Step aside, and let men do a job you can’t…and those like you couldn’t pull off. MEN, not ladies, and not boys, and not LADY BOYS like you.

  12. John says

    Your own inflated sense of “manhood” and heteronormative ideas about masculinity that you spew around here speak more of desperation than a simple link ever could, Tank. At least Ehrenstein can string together a sentence without always insulting someone or claiming his own “activist” status. If you were any such thing, would you have time to comment here all the time?

    You go to Hell first.

  13. Alex says

    Tank, if you really feel that way, go on strap a suicide belt and blow yourself up in Temple Square. It’s easy, fertilizer + diesel fuel = boom, and nails can really up the casualties, especially if you tip them with rat poison. Or you could shut the fuck up, realize we’re a diverse and complicated group, get off your ass and do some grass-roots organizing.

  14. TANK says

    I knew I’d get branded a sexist! LMAO! Oh, how myopic…how utterly clueless. This “movement” deserves nothing. Weak men. Weak people. There aren’t any goldas here.

  15. patrick nyc says

    TANK I’d like to know what ‘activism’ you have done, besides always coming here and bitching about others. Your anger is so misplaced and misdirected that I doubt that even years of therapy could help you.

    I speak from over 27 years of working in the gay community, from GMHC, NGLTF,ACT UP, QUEER NATION and other groups serving both the gay and straight community, like Front Runners, Big Brothers, and my work today for Gods Love We Deliver.

    I hear you rant but do not hear any ideas except hate from you. Get help. And if you dislike the ‘fags’ here, why is it you are always trolling here?

  16. patrick nyc says

    One more thing Douche, AKA TANK, what is the fixation on dead Jewish woman, who were activists, like Hannan Arendt and Golda Meir? You have some weird shit going on.

    At first I thought you were one of those pathetic trolls, who got locked up in the supply closet in grade school and now lashes out at others, if that’s the case those kids who did that to you were straight. Go to Rush Limbaugh’s site.

    But if you are in fact not a ten year old in mind, and instead an angry old Jewish Grandmother, whose son’s coming out broke her heart and you want to piss us off, it’s not working. Go back to your Mahjong game, the other old ladies are waiting.

  17. liz says

    amusing ‘PSA’ by portia. 😉

    as for all these comments…goodnesssss.

    I do agree with Tank on one thing – we shouldn’t rely so much on the celeb factor. i mean, a lot of people in hollywood spoke out against it, but a lot hardly financially fought against it, which is fine…but lots were hoping that they would contribute. I think that was one mistake made in the fight against prop 8. it takes more than ‘star’ power to make a difference.

    anyways, at least portia and ellen got married and keep refering to each other as their ‘wife’ – – they’re not backing down. whether it’s them, me or anyone else…we all have different ways of fighting for something we believe in. if tank feels there is a better way of being an activist, so be it. he’ll do it his way then. if tank feels like insulting people, so be it. IGNORE HIM THEN. don’t go and insult him back. (suicide belt? come on now.. not helping anyone or anything) that never gets anyone anywhere and ya all end up sounding like idiots in the end, well intentioned or not.

    ugh, i hate sounding preachy, but towleroad is an awesome site, and i hate seeing all these insults flying back and forth. shame

  18. TANK says

    Yeah, patrick, because arendt and meir played mahjong and served cookies. They were just your average brooklyn bubbes…I’m not going to play the lowest hand in the game (e.g., sexist, racist, etc), and call you an antisemite, but I’m not ruling it out, either. And no, arendt isn’t poli sci 101 reading material (I doubt you’ve even ever read her), though now she’s becoming quite fashionable for some reason. My area of expertise isn’t continental philosophy, though I do enjoy her more than the other of their 20th c. political theorists like habermas.

    And you can stop with the pop psych diagnoses and profiles. It’s common and foolish. No, I’m not an old Jewish woman (though we could learn some valuable lessons from some tough old jewish broads like arendt and meir), nor was I locked in a “supply closet” (when were you in HS, the fifties?!) by bullies. I’m younger than you, gramps. And you served your purpose by helping (I don’t know how actively…maybe you held a sign) get hiv/aids addressed nationally and treatments funded–mainstreamed it, and ended some of the harmful stigmas associated. You can go away now, because clearly your activism hasn’t gotten us so much as workplace antidiscrimination legislation on the federal level passed. And how little is that?

  19. patrick nyc says

    LOL

    TANK you are not only a douche bag, you are one major fucked up douche bag. To take my cynical jokes about Meir and Arendt, and yes I knew of them before you were born you dick, is to miss the point. And not the obvious point between your ears.

    My work speaks for it’s self. I was not asked to run the Gay Games Marathon in NYC because I ‘held signs’, but because I was a long time activist who knew people and how to get shit done.

    Meanwhile you still have not listed any of your activist work, or and ideas. Until then you little shit, us ‘old timers’ will still do our work, while you whine and rant. and little else.

  20. patrick nyc says

    LOL

    Still no word of your ‘works’, besides picking fights with those ‘gramps’ who do. Again I did not call it first, but you are a major douche bag.

  21. patrick nyc says

    OK I see, you are not going to back your ‘works’ with deeds, instead try to trash or mock my work. Well according to the front page in the NY Times the day after the Marathon, the race was not only the first, besides the NYC Marathon, to be held in the city, and yes I had the help of my friends at the NYRRC, but it was one of the few that did not lose but yet made money.

    In both Vancouver and Amsterdam, where it was both hot and not well hydrated, I placed second and eleventh, despite lack of water and heat. Little man.

    Despite the fact the city tried to cancel our race in NYC, because of the heat, and we were not ‘real runners’. Learn a bit about history before you judge.

    PS. Still waiting on your resume. Douche bag.

  22. nic says

    wow. i am glad that, for once, i am not in this slap down. you go guys. i don’t have a bit.., er, dog in this fight.

    i just want to repeat, “we are not each others’ enemies.” let’s direct our anger outward — like at repugs and mormons.

  23. patrick nyc says

    NIC

    I am not TANK’s enemy, but I will not hear him trash people here or me and let him go unanswered.

    That said, I have to pick up food tomorrow for people who are in need, so I will sign off and say to all who come to ANDY’s site, it’s a great place to hear what is going on and to care for others.

    I do not hate TANK, MORMONS or the GOP. I had lunch with two of my brothers who are both conservative Right Wing Catholics, there are two others who were not there.

    We have learned to love and deal with our differences. I hope all will get this gift.
    Life is short, I only poke a stick at TANK because like any other wounded animal, he needs to be helped.

  24. CJ says

    Let me get this “straight”:

    Posting anonymous comments makes you a “masculine” and “tough” activist. Having kittens on your MySpace profile picture makes you “a man”. Attacking others who are your “comrades” makes you “stronger”. Frequenting a blog in which the opinions of the blogger and commentators run contrary to ones own makes you “keen”. Sitting in front of your computer for hours posting personal attacks makes you “righteous”.

    Any thing else I’m forgetting “Tank”?

  25. TANK says

    Wow, pat, you really held my feet to the coals with those blistering upbraids. Parroting “douche bag” really hurtz… ha ha ha. I don’t feel the need to parade my good deeds on the comments section to somehow pump myself up, and pat myself on the back. Just so long as the marathon was good for US, and the world changed their mind about gay people…didja march in the st. patrick’s day parade this year, pat? Campaign for equality in chelsea? You and the other athletes march? Whatever.

    Wounded animal? Poking with sticks? That’s just your pop psych defense mechanism of yours to somehow justify your “activism”.

    Yeah ceej, you missed just about everything I wrote. Where did I post any of that drivel? Yet another failed attempt to mischaracterize my words by someone who clearly has an axe to grind. I’m done with you guys.

  26. CJ says

    How was any of this about you Tank? You’re acting like a spoiled child.

    “I’m done with you guys”.

    Can we get that in a written, notarized document?

  27. TANK says

    And at root is the naked claim that if someone isn’t an activist, they can’t criticize the work of activists. I wouldn’t consider myself an activist, but I’ve organized and participated in acts of civil disobedience, volunteered and donated money, and still do. Nonetheless, “activist” is not what I’d call myself.

    But that’s the premise.

    If you aren’t an activist or haven’t contributed to cause x, you can’t criticize activists or others who have.

    Isn’t that convenient? It completely insulates those who fail (and let’s be honest, on the federal level (and in many states), there isn’t a single thing worth talking about when it comes to lgbt civil rights leadership. Results are all the matters in the final analysis, and we have none to show for it. It simply doesn’t matter.) from criticism, and honestly, the argument for it is so unsound it’s offensive to any thinking person.

    Once again, comedy isn’t going to win rights, and neither is a lesbian celebrity attempting satire to shame the opposition. No appeal to basic human dignity and human rights wins them. This is borne out throughout history, and right now in the world. Sending them up? Yeah, it’s symptomatic of a general helplessness and passive aggressiveness that’s pervasive in the lgbt communities…but especially among gay men.

    CEEJ, why are you addressing me, then? Go away.

  28. John says

    Tank, it isn’t your criticizing of failed efforts at equality or at celebrity worship that seems to be anyone’s issue with you. It’s you inability to offer anything constructive along with our carps. It seems to usually be an insult paired with name calling and then defensive retorts. If you offered a reasoned, measured opinion that didn’t come off as childish (and in many cases self-loathing, sexist, or ageist), maybe people would listen instead of dismiss.

    And when you say you’re “done,” maybe you shouldn’t respond. It’s like a neverending farewell tour.

  29. patrick nyc says

    ‘didja march in the st. patrick’s day parade this year, pat? ‘

    No and I have not since I told my homophobic Uncle, James Barker, who ran the parade, that until he stopped his bullshit I would not.

    So once again you ass fart, at least I put my money where my mouth is. Again, still waiting for the list of places or groups where you work or do an ounce of good is douche bag.

  30. MammaB says

    “Yeah, I’m a douche…and I couldn’t care less.” is not an invitation to discussion.

    It’s fair warning not to engage, unless you are looking to engage with a douche who couldn’t couldn’t care less.

  31. TANK says

    Since we’ve decided to make this a personal attack…

    And that’s the secod time you’ve brought that up, mammab. I wouldn’t have a discussion with you at gunpoint. People like you are talked at, not with. Make no mistake, you’re scum.

    Now it’s me vs. the rest who are cranky about my calling them out on their weakness which this IS representative of, and which I’ll never tolerate. You’re total losers, the lotta ya bums ganging on one poster who’s KICKING YOUR COLLECTIVE ASSES. Ya haven’t an original thought, and you haven’t addressed a single point I’ve made, which indicates the great magnitude in which you’re missing the point and failing to comprehend what I’ve written.

    Also, I’ve been accused of sexism by either a person with severe cognitive disabilities or a bullshit artist. I anticipated it…I’ve dealt with your kind before. And accompanying that failed accusation is “self loathing” and ageist. Do me a favor and hang yourself, you bore. Take the rest of your hand wringing idiotic professional victim brothers and sisters with you, too; you’re an anchor on achieving equal rights. You’ve thoroughly distinguished yourselves as petty complacent fools.

    What I can count on is more people agree with me than with you. That personal enough for ya, douchers?

  32. Bob O says

    I liked it. Humor is a good tool. To those who think we are just “ladies” and “weak”, then please show us how much of an activist and go getter you are. Post your real names and start organizing your days of violence against the heteroes. I’m quite sure that will endear them to us.
    Good luck with that.
    bob o

  33. Tyrone says

    “Yeah, I’m a douche…and I couldn’t care less.”

    Actually he could care less or he wouldn’t continue to return to the site to see what others think of him and his comments. He then, of course because he couldn’t care less, proceeds to defend his assine position and wrongheaded opinions.

    For every “Tank” there are hundreds of people who actually do, rather than simply rant about, something! Easy to go to a free site that is maintained by someone else and bitch about what they have chosen to post at their own expense. Rather than babble on and on about what a freakin’ activist you are why not point us in the direction of your website so that we can see evidence and positive results of all that activisim? Remember, in cyberspace you can be whomever you want to be and, until we’ve seen otherwise, you come across as nothing more than a boring ego driven blowhard wannabe.

  34. Bill says

    I agree with TANK. There is no shaming those that took away our rights. These haterosexuals believe they are better than gay people and therefore deserve more rights and an uneven playing field that always benefits them. Right now there are 30 states that have HATEROSEXUAL-ONLY MARRIAGE written into their constitutions. Gay people’s constitutional right to use the judicial, legislative and executive branches to get our right to marry has been taken away. The only way to repeal these constitutional amendments is to go back to the same haterosexuals that put them in place.

  35. Paul R says

    I have several older siblings who are learning disabled, adopted by my parents when they were told (incorrectly) they couldn’t have kids. When I was young, a couple of those siblings teased or hit me and it upset me. When I complained to my mother, she told me that they just wanted attention—good or bad, it didn’t matter—and that if I ignored them, they would stop.

    It worked. If everyone does the same to Tank, we won’t have to read his endless, circuitous, pointless rants and insults. They’re just the blusterings of a very lonely person, and they aren’t worth a response. He’s referred to the rest of us as his “lessers,” among other things. If he’s so far above all of us, we shouldn’t try to communicate with him. It just feeds his only way of getting attention, and isn’t the least bit constructive for the rest of us.

    If you must engage him, tell him he’s been reading too much Ayn Rand. That is the number one tool for pissing off self-annointed intellectuals! He fell for it once when I did it, and it delighted me.

  36. TANK says

    Just you, Paul. And sweets, the only one with the learning disability here is you. I think you’re still smarting from a previous exchange…as are most all of the douchers who’ve made it their point to gang up on me in this post for stating the obvious, and continue it by posting your lame ad hominems and baseless accusations. You people, specifically, are LESSERS. Not mine, but lessers.

  37. TANK says

    And your tard siblings were just weary of having to explain to you why bathing with plugged in kitchen appliances was a bad idea over and over again. They snapped and slapped you about. To quote michael palin in a fish called wanda…”good”.

  38. MammaB says

    Wow.

    Tank, the point the first two times, and this time too, is that you’re not putting this out there to have a discussion, so what is the point of calling you names?

    You call yourself a douche, and then, out of the blue, you come up with “I wouldn’t have a discussion with you at gunpoint. People like you are talked at, not with. Make no mistake, you’re scum.” I get it! You’re not looking for a pen pal!

    People should have there say, and not worry too much that an anonymous person, whoever that might be, goes off on them.

  39. Christopher Thomas says

    Hey Portia and Ellen, fellow Aussie here just wanting to say bloody good job. I think your a wonderful couple and very proud to call you both Aussies, probably won’t make an ounce of difference to these hypocritical “God Botherers” as we say here at home, but it gave me something to laugh about. Love to you both and keep up the beautiful work, I’m all for gay rights and keeping bigoted religion and politics separate. P.s you two should come home real soon, promise we’ll try and keep those bloody fake Christians at bay lol

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