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Same-Sex Marriage Ballot Measure Petition Approved in California

A ballot measure initiative to reinstate same-sex marriage in California has received the go-ahead from Secretary of State Debra Bowen:

California "Charles Lowe, the author of the amendment that calls for marriage equality, must collect 694,354 signatures from registered voters for the measure to make the ballot...Lowe has 150 days to circulate petitions for the measure, which means his deadline is Aug. 17. It is the second initiative proposed that repeals the ban on same-sex marriage to enter circulation in California.On March 10, Bowen announced that a measure replacing the term 'marriage' with 'domestic partnership' throughout California law, but preserve the rights provided in marriage had entered circulation."

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  1. I just hope the same jerks that ran No on 8 will not be involved again if this makes it to the ballot.

    Posted by: Tralfaz | Mar 23, 2009 11:53:10 AM


  2. Depending on how the Supreme's rule this could be the start of dueling initiatives...Ban Gay Marriage, Legalize Gay Marriage, Ban Gay Marriage, Legalize, Ban, Legalize, Ban... how ridiculous...

    Posted by: Mike | Mar 23, 2009 11:53:17 AM


  3. The official summary is available at:

    http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_j.htm#1357

    The text of the amendments is available at:

    http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/initiatives/pdfs/i799_09-0002_amdt_1s.pdf

    Here's a pasted version of both:

    Official Summary:

    1357. (09-0002, Amdt. #1S)
    Reinstates Right of Same-Sex Couples to Marry. Initiative Constitutional Amendment.
    Summary Date: 03/19/09 Circulation Deadline: 08/17/09 Signatures Required: 694,354
    Proponent: Charles Lowe (800) 778-2998

    Repeals the current provision in California's Constitution that states only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California. Provides that the initiative is not intended, and shall not be interpreted, to modify or change the curriculum in any school. Clarifies that the initiative is not intended, and shall not be interpreted, to mandate or require clergy of any church to perform a service or duty inconsistent with his or her faith. Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local government: Over the long run, this measure would likely have little fiscal impact on state and local governments. (09-0002.) (From: http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_j.htm#1357 )


    Text of the amendment:

    09-0002

    Amdt. #1S

    Amended: Proposed California Ballot Initiative

    An act to repeal Section 7.5 of Article I of the California Constitution; therefore provisions to be repealed are printed in strike-through text.

    Section 1. Title

    This measure shall be known, and may cited, as the "California Marriage Equality Act."

    Section 2. (a) Section 7.5 of Article I of the California Constitution shall be repealed, stricken, and removed as such:

    [[Sec. 7.5 Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California]] (this text uses strike-through font)

    (b) This section is not intended to, and shall not be interpreted to, modify or change the curriculum in any school.

    (c) This section is not intended to, and shall not be interpreted to, mandate or require clergy of any church to perform a service or duty incongruent with their faith.

    (Original document available at http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/initiatives/pdfs/i799_09-0002_amdt_1s.pdf )

    Posted by: DJ Glenn | Mar 23, 2009 12:13:09 PM


  4. Narcissists can and do control themselves when someone's good opinion is sought -- in front of a judge, for instance -- and are skilled at presenting a respectable, even admirable, public face; some are actually meek and mild in public. Most of us who've lived with narcissists have had the experience of being disbelieved when we dared to tell what goes on in private; in some ways, we can hardly believe it ourselves. Life with a narcissist is like a bad dream that you can't wake up from. As a child, I used to be dazed by my narcissistic parent's public demeanor -- I wanted to take that person home with me or else live our entire family life in the protection of the public eye -- so attractive, modest, and sweet that even I could hardly believe that this same person could be the raging fiend I knew at home and had seriously thought, for a while when I was about ten, might be a werewolf. But truthful reports about narcissists' private behavior are often treated as symptoms of psychological problems in the person telling the tale -- by naming the problem, you become the person with the problem (and, let's face it, it's more gratifying to work on changing someone responsive than it is to tackle a narcissist). And I'm talking about the experience many of us have had with "the helping professions," including doctors, teachers, clergy, counselors, and therapists. This stuff is hard to talk about in the first place because it's weird, shameful, and horrifying, and then insult is added to injury when we're dismissed as overreacting (how many times have we heard "You're just too sensitive"?), deluded or malicious, as inventing stories, exaggerating, imagining things, misinterpreting -- it goes on and on. The fact is that there is next to nothing anyone can do to modify a narcissist's behavior and the only useful advice I ever got (first from my non-narcissistic parent, later repeated by my Jungian analyst) was "Get out and stay out."

    But that's much more easily said than done. We're still members of families that have been damaged, corrupted and corroded by narcissists' pathology, and we can't totally remove ourselves from the narcissists' sphere of influence without also forsaking other family members and old friends. Parents sharing child-rearing or custody with narcissists, or who have narcissistic children, can't just get out and stay out.

    Posted by: JD | Mar 23, 2009 1:23:08 PM


  5. The nature of narcissists' personality disorder is so profound and so primitive that narcissists damage and ebitter virtually everyone who comes into contact with them. They hurt their children in ways that are hardly imaginable to anyone who hasn't been there. Narcissists elicit profound and primitive wrath, rage and hostility from sane and stable people. This damages the social fabric by alienating the very people who might possibly be able to counterbalance the narcissists' malign influences.

    Posted by: JD | Mar 23, 2009 1:26:08 PM


  6. This is what happens when a community cautiously begs and pleads for the same legal rights everyone else enjoys. Do we really HAVE dignity as a "community" if we are afraid to demand - not ask - but demand the rights we already deserve? For once I wish we would act more like straight men instead of p*ssies, and ACT as if we ARE equal and BE the equality we seek.

    I personally do not think we should ALLOW others to treat us as unequal, esp. on April 15th...unless we like being subservient sub-American to heterosexuals and their precious laws. F*CK the I.R.S. until we are equal. ACT EQUAL.

    Posted by: John Bisceglia | Mar 23, 2009 1:31:46 PM


  7. Does anyone have their own "27 Names For Tears"?

    Heart Dew
    Grief Honey
    Sad Water
    Die Tranen
    Eau De Douleur
    Los Rios Del Corazon
    Iris Tea
    Bleeding Soul Drops
    Salty Eyes

    Liquid Memory
    Waterworks
    Fountain Face
    Spirit Rain
    Runny Eyes
    Eyes of Gloomy Weather
    Misery's Sugar
    Bitter Waterslides
    Worry Wellspring

    Sadness Sauce
    Depression Lemonade
    Watery Blues
    Leaky Self-esteem
    Tonic of Heartache
    Flooded Eyes
    Melted Block of Heart
    Bitter Drinks
    Spilt Goodwill

    Posted by: JD | Mar 23, 2009 1:44:23 PM


  8. JD, what are you talking about???!!!!????

    Gay people's constitutional right to seek their rights through the legistlative, judicial and executive branches of government have been ripped away in 30 states by these anti-gay marriage bans.

    Posted by: Bill | Mar 23, 2009 2:35:19 PM


  9. JD, lay off the Kool-Aid........ Guys, you are right.....our rights are being ripped away....we must have more activists fighting elections to everything, from local administration to judicial office. Otherwise Antonin Scalia, the homophobe, as Barney Frank called him, will use his narrow minded Italian Catholic bigotry to defeat equal rights at every opportunity.If he had a shred of judicial integrity he would resign.

    Posted by: hephaistion | Mar 23, 2009 3:04:34 PM


  10. While I am sure that this proposed ballot measure is well intentioned, it is the WRONG APPROACH!!! Instead of making haphazard decisions, the gay community needs to be strategic about its approach toward marriage equality. This means that we need intelligent lawyers—with a proven track record of success—to lead the way. Otherwise, we will continue to find our efforts toward marriage equality handicapped by well intentioned, but ill informed people.

    There are a plethora of reasons why this proposed ballot measure will be a disaster. Unfortunately, I do not have time to discuss all of them here. Nevertheless, I can assure you that most straight people will NEVER vote to strip themselves of the title of "marriage."

    Since federal law does not recognize "domestic partnerships," straight, married couples would risk losing a multitude of rights that they now enjoy under federal law. This would include rights related to taxes, social security benefits, etc. I can almost see the television ads against this proposed ballot measure now.

    Additionally, many states do not recognize "domestic partnerships" under their state constitutions. Consequently, these states might not recognize the legality of the relationships of straight couples who enter into domestic partnerships in CA. This could complicate the ability of straight “married” CA couples to pursue opportunities outside of CA. As a matter of law, straight CA couples would be making a BIG mistake if they supported this proposed initiative.

    I want marriage equality just as much as everyone else. However, we MUST be strategic about how we pursue marriage equality. Knee-jerk (but well intentioned) tactics, such as this proposed initiative, will only complicate our efforts. There are alternatives to this proposed ballot measure. Let’s think critically about how to best pursue these alternatives.

    Thanks.

    Posted by: OnyxStud | Mar 23, 2009 5:20:45 PM


  11. Hey CA, lets not fuck it up this time, K! The rest of us are counting on you to turn this backwards country right again!

    Posted by: JamesG | Mar 23, 2009 8:13:53 PM


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