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05/22/2009
Proposition 8: California Supreme Court to Rule Tuesday
The California Supreme Court has posted notice of an opinion filing on Proposition 8 for Tuesday, May 26 (PDF).
The Court will announce its ruling in three cases challenging Proposition 8: STRAUSS et al. v. HORTON; TYLER et al. v. STATE OF CALIFORNIA; and CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO et al. v. HORTON.
Demonstration info: Day of Decision - cities.
New York: Rally starting at Sheridan Square.
May 30: Meet in the Middle for Equality.
Posted 1:31 PM EST by Andy Towle in California, Gay Marriage, News, Proposition 8 | Permalink
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Any rally in NYC is stupid. For something all the way out in California?! N.Y. Sen. Ruben Diaz held an anti-gay-marriage rally in Manhattan last Sunday, with thousands of his supporters, and how many counter-protestors were there? About two? It makes gays look like they're only brave enough to protest when they're not face to face with the adversary.
Posted by: JT | May 22, 2009 1:45:14 PM
The court is probably going to rule to uphold PROP 8. For the first time, equal rights will have been granted to us and then taken away. PLEASE get out and protest on Tuesday night. It is not just about marriage in California. This is about fair and equal treatment under the law for all US citizens.
The protests on Tuesday should be about demanding full equality from the federal government. Nothing less.
Posted by: Jeffrey | May 22, 2009 1:52:33 PM
I'm nervous.
I start my first day at my internship on Tuesday so I'm disappointed that I won't be able to be down there at Courthouse for the decision. Since I am working in GLBT rights, I hope the whole office goes down there.
If it doesn't go away, I don't think peaceful protests are gonna do us any good. We need to be more radical.
Why should we behave? Why should we, unlike any other citizens, have to be perfect to have our rights recognized? And why are we so willing to play the majority's game? Do we really think they are just gonna bend when we do behave?
NO! They won't! We must take, by force, what is rightfully ours!
To quote the Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
We should do what our Forefathers did and FIGHT!
Posted by: Eric | May 22, 2009 2:07:11 PM
Hey maybe we can shut down a few streets in SF and LA again, while the people that voted against us in San Bernardino drive freely. I guess we can see what happens in Fresno next Saturday.
Posted by: Bruno | May 22, 2009 2:09:19 PM
I agree, JT. New Yorkers need to help themselves before they start getting involved in some court ruling that has nothing to do with them. Who has time to care about the bigots in California when there's plenty of work to be done in Albany.
Posted by: John | May 22, 2009 2:10:51 PM
John : We certainly, absolutely, wish for the best for those in California, it's just that it doesn't make sense to have big extravangazas thrown here by people who won't even show up to protest someone like NY's Diaz.
Posted by: JT | May 22, 2009 2:16:05 PM
FOR MA/RI/NH/ME/VT/CT residents who are close to Boston here is the rally and contact info:
CA Decision to be made public on Tuesday May 26th - Rally in Boston Time: 7:00pm
Place: Fairmont Copley Plaza (i assume the square) contact info: Ryan Hanley/ Join The Impact MA Email: justryan68@gmail.com Please pass this along to your friends
Posted by: alex in boston | May 22, 2009 2:25:00 PM
If the government fails to protect its citizens, then it is time to overthrow that government. Many people think gays are still sissies, Tuesday night we will show them. Think California is in a financial mess? Wait until Tuesday!
Posted by: Stephen | May 22, 2009 2:30:28 PM
JT and John:
You guys don't get it. This IS about marriage rights in NY. It is about marriage rights everywhere. If the CA Supreme court decides that voters have the right to strip a suspect class (which they decided we were last year)of basic civil rights, then we are all in trouble. The Federal government is the best remedy at that point, and if we can impress upon Washington how many of us are not going to take this anymore, we can win Federal protections and that will end this ridiculous piece-meal state-by-state BS.
If you make excuses for not protesting Tuesday night than you are part of the problem, not part of the solution. This is for New York and for everyone.
Posted by: Jeffrey | May 22, 2009 2:33:26 PM
Jeffrey:
I think that there issue is that it seems pretty ridiculous for NYers to be up in arms about something happening in CA, when NYers don't care about what's going on in their own backyard (RE Diaz's demonstration).
Posted by: Rhea | May 22, 2009 2:43:17 PM
...and that's why shutting down one or two cities isn't enough. This country needs to be shut down. We need to take a page from Thailand's yellow shirt activists and from orgs like SNCC and SDS from the 60s. If you aren't willing to get your nose bloodied and put your life on the line then shut your pie holes because you won't get anything unless you demand it!
It's important to get a list of expectations and demands ready too. It can't just be about marriage, ENDA or DADT. It's full equality under the law with no compromises and EVERYBODY that is in the bars and bedrooms needs to also be in the street or nothing will change!
Posted by: Marc | May 22, 2009 2:44:39 PM
here here, marc!!!!
Posted by: Eric | May 22, 2009 2:58:02 PM
I completely agree with BRUNO that it is pointless to fuck up traffic in San Francisco and Los Angeles while the folks who voted against us are left to drive freely through San Bernadino, Fresno and Bakersfield. We need to Meet In The Middle For Equality on Saturday, May 30. For more info check this link: http://www.meetinthemiddle4equality.com/
And no one else has explicitly said this thus far, so I'll do it. If the CA Supremes rule against us we need to FUCK SHIT UP in the neighborhoods of those who voted against us. We need to riot like no one has ever rioted before. We need to storm churches that preached against us. We need to burn down businesses that donated to Yes on 8. We need to show these bigots that we will NOT stand for being treated differently under the law than everyone else.
Posted by: peterparker | May 22, 2009 3:04:21 PM
I think if Prop 8 stays that there are going to be riots. If i was there i would do that same thing and break shit, show them that they cant just put us in a corner and forget about us. Blacks had to riot and so did woman, now its our turn and we will get what we everyone else has.
Posted by: Shae | May 22, 2009 3:26:29 PM
How about shutting down airports by blocking the main roads leading to them. In SF, that'd be 101. How about we all just park our cars and/or asses on the highway. Shutting down an airport creates a ripple effect all around the country/world.
Posted by: Joel | May 22, 2009 3:37:40 PM
PeterParker...
Whoa, whoa...
I'm all for angry protests where America feels the fury of our communties. The protests need to be in-you-face to straight America but peaceful.
And guys (and gals)...
I am a POC who is standing with you. No racial epithets at folks, please. I'm begging ya.
Posted by: Chitown Kev | May 22, 2009 3:50:25 PM
You guys will get so much done from your jail cells... keep up the talk about "breaking things" or shutting down airports (say hello to Gitmo idiot, that's a major felony!)... that type of violence will only bring the other side down harder. You people in California screwed this up already, don't go out and create violence now causing all of us to be lumped into the same stereotype. You want to ACT UP, fine, but don't destroy. What would Harvey do? He certainly would not encourage people to destroy the Valley and shut down the airports.
Posted by: Wayne | May 22, 2009 3:54:43 PM
This is all very weird. Why did the California State Supreme Court grant marriage equality to begin with (in a very forceful ruling -- look it up) only then to rule taking it away?
To hear from literally every news source they're going to "split the baby" -- let Prop 8 stand but allow the marriages that took place before it to remain legal.
That's "what people say."
What the court actually does we'll find out on Tuesday.
Posted by: David Ehrenstein | May 22, 2009 3:54:56 PM
How is shutting down an airport violent? Disrupting routine is a hallmark of civil disobedience and it doesn't get anyone bloody.
Posted by: Joel | May 22, 2009 3:59:07 PM
"Direct action is politically motivated activity undertaken by individuals, groups, or governments to achieve political goals outside of normal social/political channels. Direct action can include nonviolent and violent activities which target persons, groups, or property deemed offensive to the direct action participant."
DELAY IS NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!!
Now is the time to act.
Posted by: jimwatsondc | May 22, 2009 4:09:34 PM
"You people in California screwed this up already"
FUCK YOU WAYNE!!!!
Posted by: Ryan | May 22, 2009 4:33:50 PM
Also check out Faironline.org for all the latest up to date info on rallies, news and important information.
Posted by: rick | May 22, 2009 5:12:06 PM
Prop 8 will be overturned because though majorities rule in democracies, majorities cannot tyrannize minorities, deny them rights, criminalize their very existence on subjective grounds or religious grounds, or on any grounds whatsoever, nor turn them into second class citizens.
Posted by: law boy | May 22, 2009 5:32:10 PM
When the court upholds Proposition 8, all the angry, dumbfounded protesters throughout the state should wave signs reading "WE FAILED HIGH SCHOOL CIVICS!"
Posted by: Jeff Jungblut | May 22, 2009 5:35:46 PM
So when those planes crashed into the twin towers on 9/11 that was just a NY thing? Prop 8 affects every person in this country. If NYers Bostonians, NOLA's, Miamians, etc. want to protest or celebrate they have every right to. This is the UNITED States of America.
Posted by: Owen | May 22, 2009 6:09:06 PM