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  1. says

    “Maine was unusual in passing a law to allow same-sex marriage rather than being required to do so by a court order. Since then, Vermont and New Hampshire have followed suit. ”

    Not true. Vermont was first, and though our Governor vetoed the bill, we overrode him with a 2/3 majority in both houses. Maine and NH approved bills almost two months later, and the only reason Maine’s came first was that their Governor signed it immediately.

  2. says

    “Maine voters should recognize that even if their personal beliefs about marriage haven’t changed, reality has.”

    Perfection. It simply couldn’t have been stated better.

  3. ST says

    “Maine and NH approved bills almost two months later, and the only reason Maine’s came first was that their Governor signed it immediately.”

    Surely if that is the case, then however you spin it, Maine was still indeed first to pass the law (which the article appears to state correctly), whether or not it went through the houses in Vermont first. Not that it matters – it’s wonderful that each of these states have achieved what they have, irrespective of opposition!

  4. says

    “Surely if that is the case, then however you spin it, Maine was still indeed first to pass the law (which the article appears to state correctly), whether or not it went through the houses in Vermont first.”

    Kevin wasn’t spinning anything, merely setting the record straight. VT was first, and The Bangor Daily News should have known that. The VT’s governor’s veto of our marriage bill was overridden in April, the Maine bill wasn’t passed and signed till a month later.

    But, as you say, that’s not the important thing. The important thing is that the papers are standing up for equality and urging voters to vote No on 1. It’s significant that the mainstream press is on our side when mainstream national politicians remain squeamish about marriage.

    So we have a little pride in VT for being 1st (we were first with CUs, too), but that doesn’t take away from NH and ME’s accomplishments. Let’s hope Mainers will do the right thing.

  5. Bruno says

    If we can’t win a popular vote in Maine, we probably can’t win it anywhere (except maybe Vermont).

  6. says

    Maine voters have a checkered history; they overturned anti-discrimination laws before finally supporting the gay rights law in, I believe, 2005. So they did the right thing eventually, but it took a while. Hopefully–with encouragement from these great editorials and a good pro-gay turnout at the polls–they’ll do the right thing the first time around on Nov 3.

    We don’t have ballot questions in VT, fortunately, so our marriage law won’t be put before the voters and doesn’t risk being repealed. Polls showed that VTers were in favor of marriage equality, but that doesn’t always translate into ballot success.

  7. says

    The “We were first!” posts are juvenile. Fine if the papers do it, but it’s just boasting if you’re doing it among other gay people. And to be honest, what significance does it make whether it came from the courts or from legislature? I’d really only begin to boast if it came from/was affirmed by the public, which it seems that Maine will be the first state to do.

  8. Lobsterboy says

    Hey Washington, cut it out with the boastful juvenile stuff. Those of us in Maine and elsewhere clinging to status by majority vote year after year after year would be just plain boastful if minority rights weren’t subjected to majority rule.

  9. says

    “The ‘We were first!’ posts are juvenile.”

    It’s not about being boastful about being first, it’s simply about being accurate. Pointing out a newspaper’s error isn’t dissing gay Mainers. We’re all on Maine’s side, and we all applauded when Maine’s legislators did the right thing–same in NH and in the states where the court cases succeeded.

    Maine, unlike VT, has the added burden of having to deal with heinous ballot initiatives–if they win against Question 1 they will get all the credit they deserve, and it will be a positive shift in momentum for the whole marriage equality movement. Each victory is a shared one. And it DOES matter where victories come from (courts, legislature, directly from the people)–not because one deserves more praise than another but because each victory signals something different about the trajectory of the gay civil rights movement. History counts.

    We’re rooting for you Maine!

  10. says

    IF you want to get married. Don’t be fucking gay. Marriage is between and man and a woman. It is facilitated by God and is a part of Christian, Muslim and Jewish faiths, among others.

    If you are gay, just accept the same rights… Asking to marry gay couples is like asking if you can guest lecture quantum physics as a 6th grader. Firstly, it doesn’t fit and lastly it shouldn’t happen.