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New York Marriage Equality: The Post-Vote Blame Game

Here are the eight "no" votes from Democrats on marriage equality in New York state today, along with their email addresses if you'd care to speak your mind. The percentage before their names (thanks to Towleroad commenter Tanner) represents — FYI — their 2008 general election percentages.

53% Aubertine (Upstate) -
53% Stachowski (Upstate) -
58% Addabbo (Queens) -
81% Onorato (Queens) -
93% Diaz (Bronx) -
93% Kruger (Kings) -
100% Huntley (Queens) -
100% Monserrate (Queens) -

Looks like efforts need to focus on Queens, where four of the eight senators reside.

Joe Sudbay at Americablog notes:

Ny In New York, a lot of gay money was spent to help Democrats retake control of the State Senate in New York last fall. That was documented in a piece in the New York Times on October 26, 2008, which included this excerpt:

Far from trumpeting their involvement, gay rights groups have been largely silent about their role in Senate campaigns for fear of raising the ire of social conservatives. But a review of campaign finance disclosure forms shows that gay and lesbian advocates have become a quiet but potent force this election season.

All told, gay rights groups and donors affiliated with them have given a total of at least $480,000 this year to Democratic Senate candidates and campaign funds controlled by Democrats, according to the most recent disclosure documents available. Much of that money was donated in the past month and pointed at a handful of competitive races, campaign finance filings show.

Important to remember Tom Duane's note though: "Today also brought home the fact that the State Senate must maintain a Democratic majority– and in even greater numbers. It was only under Democratic leadership that this vote was possible. We must also have a Governor willing to sign marriage equality into law."

Duane seemed confident before the vote that he had the numbers. I wonder where and why the rot began.

Of course this does not excuse the Republicans.

There were NO Republican "Yes" votes. 

You may recall that NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg said he could get a couple of Republican votes but then backtracked on those claims in mid-October.

Meanwhile, Log Cabin Republicans have been trumpeting since April that there were strong chances for Republican support because party leadership was allowing them to "vote their conscience."

Their homophobic, bigoted, religiously-influenced consciences, apparently.

So what did the Log Cabin Republicans do following the vote? They blamed Democrats:

"Today we share in the frustration and disappointment that the Senate did not pass the marriage equality bill. We are deeply saddened that the Democratic Conference failed to secure the votes they promised, undermining the possibility of a credible bipartisan vote of conscience on the merits of marriage equality. Winning marriage equality in New York requires the Democrats to keep their promises, and Log Cabin will continue to work to ensure that Republicans vote their conscience when that finally happens."

It's important to remember that a few years ago we wouldn't have even imagined taking a vote on marriage equality, so, yes, we have made progress, even in losing.

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  1. Way to spin it in Democrats' favor. Both Republicans and Democrats are to blame. Bigotry crosses party lines, why can't you see that? It is Christianity that is to blame for this bullshit.

    There should be rioting in the streets over this.

    I LOATHE New York.

    Posted by: Attmay | Dec 2, 2009 7:44:43 PM

  2. F*ck gay Republicans. Uncle Toms.

    Posted by: PistolPetey | Dec 2, 2009 7:45:56 PM

  3. I cannot believe the log cabins statement! Do you think they were laughing when they wrote it?

    Posted by: James | Dec 2, 2009 7:47:40 PM

  4. thanks for highlighting bloomberg's complete ineptitude in delivering votes. i STILL have the bitter taste of the backstabbing we suffered from Bloomberg after Hernandez v. Robles back in 2005 i believe. and his *third* campaign, the way he played politics with our rights... i'm furious. i could say that i hope he dies a miserable, pathetic, lonely, slow and excruciating death. i could...

    the log cabin repubs must be schizophrenic cause their grasp of reality is absurdly off. i mean, really? it's one think to hold conservative ideals; it's another to have blind, knee-jerk, partisan reactions. when did republicans last advance a pro-equality measure of any kind? exactly.

    as for the devil's 8... see you in 2010. i hope for those who survive that election, if there are any, that their power in the senate is so diminished that they'll just quit or something. the ny democratic party shouldnot have them in their ranks in the first place.

    Posted by: daftpunkydavid | Dec 2, 2009 7:50:30 PM

  5. HAHA

    Log Cabin is HILARIOUS.

    Posted by: johnosahon | Dec 2, 2009 8:04:07 PM

  6. @Attmay | Dec 2, 2009 7:44:43 PM

    WTF are you talking about?

    Spinning in democrat's favor?

    Let see,


    more like he is spinning it in FACT's favor.

    i do agree that religion is to blame though.

    Posted by: johnosahon | Dec 2, 2009 8:08:28 PM

  7. It's sad to see that the no votes from the Democrats included minority senators (including Hispanic, African American & female). They of all people should be sensitive to civil rights issues. I for one would much rather have a Republican in their least we know what we're getting.

    Posted by: rich west village | Dec 2, 2009 8:11:51 PM

  8. That Log Cabin Club statement is truly twisted. What is wrong with their basic cognition?

    I vote for a peaceful Times Square + Albany rally/protest every night.

    This back of the bus stuff is getting tiring.

    Posted by: Ron | Dec 2, 2009 8:12:02 PM

  9. To Rich West Village: Why is there always a thought that because a person is Black, Hispanic or Female it automatically makes them an ally when the Gay community isn't consistently an ally to those groups.

    The Gay community is full of bigots who are never called out. Racism and Sexism (hell even ageism) is rarely discussed in our community.

    The problem is that we still don't know how to reach out to the religious groups and tell them that they can do whatever they want to do in their churches. This is about legal civil rights not religious.

    We also need to do more outreach to the minority community both Gay and Straight. That is the only way we will get equal marriage rights.

    Posted by: db | Dec 2, 2009 8:19:44 PM

  10. at rich west village: sweetie. check this out:

    Posted by: daftpunkydavid | Dec 2, 2009 8:20:17 PM

  11. That was a very powerful post, Andy. You have no idea how inspiring you are when you get fired up like that.

    We love you very much and thank you for everything you do: for the gossip, for the cute-boy pics, for the astronomy and, especially, for what you do for us on days like today.

    Posted by: JeffNYC | Dec 2, 2009 8:22:03 PM

  12. The LCR's are ridiculous, but their statement does suggest something to me -- reading between the lines, of course: The Dems must have promised, say, 26 votes, and then there were 6 Republicans who were willing to vote yes to make up the 32 needed. And when it became clear that the Dems did not have 26 -- e.g., when Addabbo voted no -- then those 6 Republicans said they were not going to buck their party for the sake of a bill that was not going to pass. At least, that's what it sounds like.

    Posted by: Glenn | Dec 2, 2009 8:29:46 PM

  13. glenn, i think you got that exactly right. that's my uninformed, exterior impression as well; but it does sound like a very plausible political ploy. i hope someone leaks something to the press in the coming days!

    Posted by: daftpunkydavid | Dec 2, 2009 8:38:44 PM

  14. All the more reason to vote out girlfriend beating, fake-Iraq War veteran Hiram Monserrate.

    Posted by: Jason | Dec 2, 2009 8:40:21 PM

  15. Why does everyone thing it will be easy to oust the Dems who voted against marriage equality? They live in conservative districts. If someone challenges them in a primary election based the grounds of their marriage vote, well, it might not work.

    plus: I agree with Glenn re: the Dems failed to reach a certain quota and the GOP therefore withheld the votes it had. Disgusting nonetheless.

    Also: anyone have any idea what's going on between Empire State Pride Agenda and Tom Duane? Notice how ESPA didn't thank Duane in its press release? There's a history of tension there, and I would instinctively side with ESPA,which knows how to play hardball.

    Duane might be well-liked and openly gay and the guy who carries the bill, but bottom line: He failed to secure the votes from his own party.

    Posted by: Trog | Dec 2, 2009 8:40:56 PM

  16. much has been said about Gov Paterson and his abilities to govern New York but he has shown himself willing to fight an unpopular fight to the very end He stood his ground and deserves our support for relection. He handled himself well and good friend, better than Obama who wants to force him out
    remember this at election time

    Posted by: walter | Dec 2, 2009 9:01:16 PM

  17. To Rich West Village: Although I agree with you that this is the way things should be, I think that this line of thinking is exactly why it's not. We go around saying, "Oh! The blacks know what it was like to engage in a civil rights battle, to be suppressed, so they must AUTOMATICALLY be on our side! And then our community fails to properly communicate with their community. It's counterproductive. We need to get better at communicating, and then the rest of the minority groups may well be more likely to join our fight.

    Posted by: Erin | Dec 2, 2009 9:11:24 PM

  18. @ Rich West Village

    9 out of 11 A-A senators voted for marriage.

    Posted by: Giovanni | Dec 2, 2009 9:28:20 PM

  19. republicans generally suck. but come on . . . when the dems have a majority in the senate and can't pass the bill it's hard to point the only fingers at the repubs. it's like if health care doesn't pass in congress. the u.s. senate is fillibuster proof! DADT and DOMA should be repealed with several votes to spare!

    Posted by: Jason | Dec 2, 2009 9:41:12 PM

  20. For the first time in my life, I feel disgusted being affiliated to Democrats. I'm very tempted to register as Independent from now on.

    Posted by: Robert | Dec 2, 2009 9:42:27 PM

  21. log cabin republicans make as much sense as jews for hitler. do not lick the boots of your oppressors.

    Posted by: psgoodguy | Dec 2, 2009 9:50:18 PM

  22. community outreach?!?

    who's buying this load of bull!

    it's nonsense. The NYC leaders, including the repugnicans know better. They know that voting yes for equality is the best direction for the city and state. Of course, more outreach needs to take place, but to blame the current reach or lack thereof is horsesh*t! These "leaders" are the problem and it should be laid squarely at their feet.

    All the rest of the finger pointing may have validity but it sounds an awful like outsiders (non-NYer's) trying to complicate something which is quite simple. Those who voted NO on marriage equality should be held to scrutiny and held accountable because they are fully aware of their actions and what's at stake.

    Posted by: ED2 | Dec 2, 2009 9:51:16 PM

  23. This is not limited to NY, Dems across the country have let down the gay community. No Dollars until bigger moves then just Mathew Shepard. So done with the dems. At least Republicans look us in the eye before they fuck us over.

    Posted by: David | Dec 2, 2009 9:58:28 PM

  24. We of course should be supporting primary challengers to these eight Dems (though many are likely not vulnerable), since it is highly likely that any general election Repuglican opponents will be as bad, if not worse, on issues of equality for gay people.

    However, though these eight are horrible and we should work to replace them with pro-equality Dems where possible (like pro-equality Assemblymember Jose Peralta in his primary challenge next year to that criminal Montserrat), let's not forget that the biggest obstacle to equality in New York as everywhere in this country is Repuglicans. What you really need to post is a list of all the Repuglican senators who got under 60% of the vote in their last election. Some of those seats might represent opportunities to put in a pro-equality Dem.

    The significance of the 2010 election in New York cannot be overstated. If the Repuglicans retake the Senate, they'll control the redistricting that will take place after the 2010 census and could gerrymander districts to assure that they remain in control for decades, as happened over the past few decades. We need to target anti-equality Dems but, as importantly, we need to target vulnerable Repuglicans and make sure that the party which was united in support of discrimination and bigotry today - as on all days - does not take back control of the State Senate next year. If they do, don't even expect to get a vote on equality in 2011. They'll keep it from coming to the floor.

    Glenn, you are likely correct about there being some sort of understanding by which Repuglicans on the fence indicated they were only willing to vote for equality if enough of the fence-sitting Dems did so to make passage possible but how does that make the Rethuglican performance today any less despicable, as the vile Log Cabin types would suggest? They've opted to make their bed with members of a party whose base is right-wing bigots and so somehow we're supposed to hold them to a lesser standard or only expect them to publicly express their support for equality and incur the wrath of the wingnuts if they can be assured that we can pass an equality bill? Twisted, twisted, twisted, like everthing that comes out of the mouths of those Log Cabin losers.

    Of course, we shouldn't be surprised. This is what the Log Cabin morons had to say following McBush's selection of Palin as his running mate last year: "Alaska Governor Sarah Palin can help Sen. McCain win this election by appealing to independent and young voters. She's a mainstream Republican who will unite the Party and serve John McCain well as Vice President. Gov. Palin is an inclusive Republican who will help Sen. McCain appeal to gay and lesbian voters."

    Posted by: Patric | Dec 2, 2009 10:10:59 PM

  25. We need gay Latinos to speak up about these "Democrats". Put them in their place and in their own language.

    Posted by: | Dec 2, 2009 10:17:42 PM

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