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Watch: Kansas City 'House of Prayer' Exploits 'Ex-Gay' Teen

Jacob

"Do you hear that? He was set free from addictions to homosexuality, heroine, crack cocaine. Anything else?"

Unfortunately, Jacob was not delivered from ugly exploitation on YouTube and elsewhere by the International House of Prayer (IHOP) in Kansas City.

Watch, AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. That's disgusting.

    Posted by: Ryan | Feb 6, 2010 5:53:58 PM


  2. Did you hear the people in the 'audience' laughing at his uncontrollable muscle spasms? Yeah, that's Christianity at it's best.

    Posted by: Rodney | Feb 6, 2010 6:05:35 PM


  3. He seems perfectly normal and well-adjusted.

    Posted by: Rob | Feb 6, 2010 6:07:45 PM


  4. It's unfortunate how people who are simply seeking to find peace of mind fall into these evangelical cults and get trapped into believing that they are doing something good for themsleves. The twitching and people screaming in the background and falling on the ground should be a clue that this is an unhealthy environment for anyone. How sad for that poor misguided kid. I hope he finds a happier path someday.

    Posted by: Brice | Feb 6, 2010 6:11:30 PM


  5. As a gay man and as a Christian, this makes me sick. Even more, this kid (minus the spasms and drugs) was me six years ago. And the laughter all the way up until he says he's "ex-gay" really shows how evangelicals see this. They will judge and harass you until they realized you've kowtowed to their skewed interpretation of Christianity, then make you their golden child.

    I'm terrified that this is the message that most people get of Christianity, without realizing that conservative evangelicals do not represent the majority of Christians. This kind of behavior is not what Christianity stands for. Kids being told that God hates them, fucking them up for life, is not a Christian value. For the love of God, please don't lump all Christians in with these people.

    Posted by: Patrick | Feb 6, 2010 6:13:38 PM


  6. These people are evil. The most evil people on earth are those that believe that they're anything but.

    Posted by: TANK | Feb 6, 2010 6:18:51 PM


  7. Sorry if I offended you, Patrick. I try to stay away from generalization, but for some organized religion just gets my goat. Maybe I've been exposed to one too many focus on the family types.

    Posted by: Rodney | Feb 6, 2010 6:20:41 PM


  8. That's sad.

    Posted by: vatm | Feb 6, 2010 6:24:33 PM


  9. I think you guys are misinterpreting the video.

    The audience is not laughing at him, they are laughing with him.

    The "spirit giving him joy" is a particular movement in Charismaniac fundamentalism wherein participants laugh uncontrollably under the influence of the Holy Spirit, often with convulsions as well.

    You can see a texbook example of this here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EscftE3XIVM

    I can see how you might think that this boy is experiencing muscular problems, which the audience is mocking, but that's just simply not the case. More disturbing actually.

    Posted by: Nate | Feb 6, 2010 6:27:48 PM


  10. Patrick do something as a Christian do something about it. I live in the midwest. The loudest voices are that of the conservative evangelicals. When they do something crazy or distort Christianity, the voices I hear in opposition are mainly from atheists, agnostics, non-religious, other religions. And only a few Christians.

    I have had Christians come up to me and say that is not where I stand that is not what I believe in. When I ask them why aren't the out there counter protesting, or shouting them down, or getting the message out, I just get blank looks.

    This is the problem with many religions and organizations. The sane ones withing the organization have some fear of speaking out against the crazies.

    So till the voices of the more moderate Christians is loud enough to drown out these wack jobs, many of us will see that as representing the majority, because it is the only evidence we have.

    Posted by: kujhawker | Feb 6, 2010 6:30:11 PM


  11. Even if all that is true, they are still 'healing' him of his homosexuality. That alone is a sign these people just aren't right in the head.

    Posted by: Rodney | Feb 6, 2010 6:30:48 PM


  12. I'd be more convinced if he were miraculously freed of those unfortunate ticks/spasms.

    Posted by: Jexer | Feb 6, 2010 6:31:50 PM


  13. This is shameful on so many levels, I am just not sure how to respond. My only hope is that this poor kid can actually get some real help. This is just so wrong.

    Posted by: Rick C. | Feb 6, 2010 6:32:19 PM


  14. Patrick's making an impotent argument. This is, in fact, the kind of activity that christianity stands for. There's no such thing as a true christian. You're making an invalid argument that is guilty of the no true scotsman logical fallacy. Say a Scot is reading the paper, and happens an article about a serial killer who hacked to bits several innocent people. He exclaims that no scotsman would ever do such a heinous thing. Well, he comes to find out that the man in question was scottish. He then says, "well...no TRUE scotsman would ever do such a thing." Try as you might, the only thing means by 'true' in that sentence are scotsman that agree with him and wouldn't do that. So basically, when people talk of true christianity, they mean only christians that agree with them, leaving untouched all those christians who don't. These sick degenerates have just as much biblical references in hokum to support their repulsive beliefs as members of UCC or other "moderate" minority cults of the christian cult have to support theirs. There's no "truth" to be had when you divorce your belief system from reality...you can spin it however you want. And all moderate christians do is protect the envangelicals and other bigoted christians from having to answer for their beliefs because you both refer to and DEFEND the same source to validate your fantasies. That's the purpose you serve: a buffer of protection.

    Posted by: TANK | Feb 6, 2010 6:35:18 PM


  15. Ok... as a former Assembly of God/Pentecostal Church member, these crackpots are not laughing directly at this poor misguided kid. It is, as these people believe, "being in the presence of the spirit" that is making them laugh. They feel so overjoyed that the presence of god is in the room, they express it by laughing. As for his twitching and stuttering, if you want to call it that...it is also the supposed manifestation of the holy spirit that is making him do that. If you watch closely, other people in the audience are doing the same exact thing. This breed of christians, if you want to call them that, are actually suffering from severe psychosis and are virtually on the border if not already completely insane. I find it funny that when you go to different churches, you can actually see different types of "twitching, speaking in tongues, etc." They truly feed off each other. At the church I went to, people spoke in tongues the same way....at this church/revival, everyone twitches the same way. Completely ridiculous. Hopefully this kid will get some serious help from a source outside the church when his temporary feeling of being and ex-gay goes away and that he gets checked into rehab to get off the drugs.

    Posted by: Aerosky | Feb 6, 2010 6:36:53 PM


  16. Alternate perspective:

    This is all about ante-ing up in the congregation's Faithy poker. It's not just that you act like you have the spirit moving through you. Anyone can profess they love god and act like they're feeling his grace, if you found God easily, how nice for you. Easy come, easy go. Makes for bad entertainment for the congregation.

    For these writhing on the floor speaking in tongues crazies... it's all about the story-telling... how much have YOU had to give up, overcome, or sacrifice in order to come to Jesus?

    The game here is "How well can you spin a sympathetic story about your life that 'moves' others." (doesn't matter if there's any lasting truth to it... if you fall from grace, then you come back with a better story next time.)

    Posted by: Jexer | Feb 6, 2010 6:46:14 PM


  17. I am yet to see the bottom of religious idiocy. When reading stories like this one, I feel that, just as their god, it does not exist.

    Posted by: GOD | Feb 6, 2010 6:54:57 PM


  18. Tank: by your argument, all people are murderers. Try again.

    There are decent Christians in this world, doing their best to be virtuous, non-judgmental, forgiving, and compassionate. I met quite a few, and they understand that there's no forcing 'the will of god' on anyone, each person must come to it on their own. They'll help if asked, but they don't push.

    Painting all Christians with the same brush is just as unhelpfully seperationistic as when the mouthy fundy self-proclaimed Christans insist that gays must hide who they are "to protect the children".

    Posted by: Jexer | Feb 6, 2010 6:55:02 PM


  19. These people will learn the truth if there is in fact a God in the after life. Mean while here on planet Earth, I'd like to kick them int the fucking ass.

    Posted by: patrick nyc | Feb 6, 2010 6:56:58 PM


  20. There were also many decent communists in the Soviet Block, doing their best to be good citizens, non-judgemental, forgiving and compassionate - this does not mean that communism itself along with a lack of any evidence for its merits, isn't a harmful ideology to be applied to humans. The same applies to Christianity.

    Posted by: GOD | Feb 6, 2010 6:58:43 PM


  21. Jexer, that's simply flat out false and based on a complete misunderstanding of what I wrote. All people aren't murderers (though could provide you with a compelling argument that you can cash out the cost of your latest leisure expense in human life if you'd like one...) by that argument. Instead some scottish people are murderers, and so are some christians (e.g., the one that murdered the abortion doctor and was recently found guilty)...and they're true scotsman, and true christians for there's no meaning to those statements "true christian" and true scotsman beyond what you arbitrarily happen to agree with.

    That logical fallacy (it's an informal logical fallacy you should do some research on) simply states that the only meaning to 'true' in "true christian" is whatever pick and choose christianity you happen to subscribe to (and they're all pick and choose).

    I'm not disputing that there are decent people in the world who happen to be christian, but it has little if anything to do with "christianity," but another standard that enables them to pick and choose which christian verses to act on if they're even acting on explicit christian principles at all in being good...and oh yes, acting on some christian principles would make you a very bad person, indeed (and no, virtue isn't exclusive to christianity or any religion). But WTF, I highly doubt you even know a virtue is.

    Posted by: TANK | Feb 6, 2010 7:05:50 PM


  22. I am not sure this growing radicalism within Christianity is limited to the evangelical community. Liberals have been abandoning "mainstream" Christianity - Anglicanism, Catholicism, Lutheranism - at an alarming rate. And these churches have responded by inviting in every misguided radical they can find that the evangelicals and Muslims haven't gotten to already. The vacuum is being filled by Mel Gibson, Bill Donahue, and their fellow travelers. These are folks whose theological views aren't significantly different from the Biblical literalists that old-school Anglicans and Catholic used to loathe. Yet, they have become the face of mainstream Christianity.

    And it is going to get much worse before it gets better. Because that's what you see happening with all the other religions too. Islam has certainly fallen to the fundamentalist fervor, and like Christianity, is bent on dominating the entire world. Even the less aggressive religions - Judaism, Hinduism, and Buddhism - are becoming more radicalized as a reaction to these outside threats.

    Posted by: John | Feb 6, 2010 7:09:38 PM


  23. I agree with KUJHawker. Christians are not as disturbed by these fundamentalists, if they were, they would do something to disassociate themselves.

    Posted by: Rafael | Feb 6, 2010 7:11:46 PM


  24. good god! indeed, if there is a "good" god, he would smite all those exploitative people down. THIS KID NEEDS MEDICAL HELP!!! he should not be paraded around like a trained monkey. every time i think these xtians have sunk lower than whale shit, they continue to surprise me. a decent god would not let this blasphemy continue.

    may your god have mercy on your misguided souls.

    Posted by: nic | Feb 6, 2010 7:12:17 PM


  25. That scene. That auditorium. Reminds me of Sissy Spacek in "Carrie." I wish he'd snap out of it and do a Carrie White right there, with all those that abused him and taunted him for being gay AND those that are abusing him, positioning him as an ex-gay to spread their bogus message now, all getting exactly what they deserve (and say they want), to meet their maker ASAP. KC is loaded with whacked out racist evangelicals, esp.in Lee's Summit. Half the kids there are on something and likely to leave the place to cruise up and down the business loop, have pre-martial sex or vandalize something. In fact, they are just like those in the movie.

    Posted by: William | Feb 6, 2010 7:14:26 PM


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