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Mexican Cardinal Calls Gay Marriage 'Evil', 'Inherently Immoral'


Cardinal Norberto Rivera slammed the Mexican Supreme Court's 8-2 ruling that Mexico City's marriage equality law is constitutional, the AP reports:

"The Roman Catholic archbishop said it was wrong to go against Christian doctrine that recognizes only marriages between a man and a woman. 'The church cannot fail to call evil evil,' Rivera said in a statement...The Federal District is the only part of Mexico that allows gay marriages. The city government said last week that since 320 same-sex couples had married since March, 173 of them male and 147 female. Rivera said homosexuals have suffered abuses from the broader society, but argued that allowing same-sex marriages is not the way to try to atone for such injustices. He called same-sex unions 'inherently immoral,' saying they 'distort the nature of marriage raised by Christ to the dignity of a sacrament.'"

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  1. Wow the Catholics always come up with the hottest sex doo-dads! What's that big gold thing do?

    Posted by: Mike Kilpatrick | Aug 9, 2010 10:28:18 AM

  2. Speaking as a man whose church unleased the conquistadores, the brutal genocide and enslavement of native peoples of the New World, the Spanish Inquisition, and the rape and molestation of millions of innocent children at the hands of priests even today?

    Like a comedian said, "If heaven has different lines like the DMV, I'd much rather be in the gay line than the 'I touch little boys' line like the Catholic priests."

    Sorry, Cardinal. I'm in no mood to be lectured on "sin" by an organization so mired in sin itself.

    Posted by: Craig | Aug 9, 2010 10:30:04 AM

  3. "it was wrong to go against Christian doctrine" Tch. Don't make me laugh. Christianity and all other religions can fuck off. I'll take my civil rights, thanks.

    "'The church cannot fail to call evil evil'" Ya know what's evil? Your face. Srsly.

    Posted by: ravewulf | Aug 9, 2010 10:38:14 AM

  4. The Catholic Church as well as so many other specifically the Black Churches that pronounce anti-gay statements are the ones with the sex scandals...

    Posted by: True Words | Aug 9, 2010 10:46:54 AM

  5. It's interesting that a representative of the Mexican Catholic Church will speak out against Homosexuality while Mexico is undergoing a massive crippling crime wave where the drug runners and outlaws have over run Local and National security. Kidnapping has become a common occurrence in Mexico yet I don't see any religious representative speaking out against any of that. It's interesting to see what they pick and choose to speak out against.

    Posted by: Eboogiedown | Aug 9, 2010 10:52:11 AM

  6. I wonder how many starving kids the gold in his crozier would feed?

    Posted by: Bud Burgoon-Clark | Aug 9, 2010 10:57:48 AM

  7. Cardinal Rivera, you want to talk about inherent evil, start with your own priests.

    "However, not all of the bishops agree with the instructions from Rome.

    "It is not right to turn over our sons (implicated in sex abuse scandals), the sons of the Church, to civil authorities," Bishop Renato León, in Ciudad Juárez, on the U.S. border, said in 2002.

    "Dirty laundry is washed at home," said Sergio Obeso, bishop of Jalapa, a city on the Gulf of Mexico.

    SNAP has compiled a list of 40 priests - mainly Mexicans - accused of sexual abuse, who fled the United States and are allegedly living in Mexico.

    As Aguilar told IPS in an earlier interview, "priests flee to Mexico because they know that here they will be protected by both church and secular authorities."

    - Sex Abuse Victim Under Fire from Catholic Church
    By Diego Cevallos

    MEXICO CITY, Sep 21, 2006

    Posted by: Verdon Coleman | Aug 9, 2010 10:57:59 AM

  8. Its interesting that he mentions Christ and marriage. In the Bible, Jesus attends a wedding... and that's it. He does not perform any marriages, nor does He talk about marriage at all. Apparently, even Bishops don't read the Bible.

    Posted by: Brian | Aug 9, 2010 11:24:42 AM

  9. OK then Cardinal, I'll bite; PLEASE enumerate all of the things that YOU and the Catholic Church has done to help the gay people that YOU acknowledge "have suffered abuses from the broader society".

    Hell, I'll make it easier for you. What have YOU and/or the Catholic Church done to "atone" for the abuses that gays have suffered from YOUR CHURCH?

    Until you are able to show demonstrable evidence that you and/or the church has done this then you have NO say, and NO credibility in determining WHAT the proper "atonement" should be for the abuses that gays have suffered!

    Posted by: TampaZeke | Aug 9, 2010 11:37:55 AM

  10. CRAIG, don't forget the CRUSADES. Horrible acts of genocide and unimaginable violence, in the name of Jesus.

    They are still idealized and mythologized and romanticized today. How many Christian schools call their sports teams The Crusaders? When I was growing up in the Southern Baptist Church there was a youth training course/club wherein kids were required to accomplish a certain list of requirements to graduate up the ranks to eventually be "knighted" in a "knights of the round table" type ceremony. It was SO luring to a young kids with their minds in fantasy land but looking back it was SOOOOOO fucking creepy, SOOOOO fucking dangerous and SOOOOO fucking offensive.

    I don't even know if these people know what a Crusader was or what the Crusades were. Unfortunately, they probably DO and that's what turns them on so much.

    Posted by: TampaZeke | Aug 9, 2010 11:48:54 AM

  11. Good point BRIAN.

    Christ's great contribution to marriage was getting everyone drunk from jugs of water once the wine had run out.

    Even more ironic, the wedding he performed his first "miracle" at may have been a same-sex wedding.

    Google it.

    I think the whole story is bullshit because I don't believe "Jesus" actually existed, but to those who do...

    Posted by: TampaZeke | Aug 9, 2010 11:53:32 AM

  12. TRUE WORDS, you never fail to disappoint.

    Please take your racist (not to mention ignorant and baseless) comment elsewhere.

    Black pastors are certainly no more likely to have sex scandals than other pastors.

    Posted by: TampaZeke | Aug 9, 2010 11:56:28 AM

  13. Why is everyone so surprised - gays are *indeed* 'evil' and 'immoral' according to their religion. It's no great revelation. It just means we should focus our efforts not on the prattle of a single man but to get rid of religion in society so it's no more than a private delusion that can't be used to disenfranchise others.

    Posted by: dreamfish | Aug 9, 2010 12:06:07 PM

  14. Sometimes the people in churc make Jesus vomit.

    Posted by: JinAtlanta | Aug 9, 2010 12:41:39 PM

  15. As a high representative of the Catholic Church this Cardinal has a long history of brainwashing and is simply unable to make the appropriate distinction between church and state. So he is forever condemned to a lack of intellectual differentiation, resulting in the deeply immoral (and of course outdated) action of applying ecclesiastic criteria to state affairs and science.
    The best illustration for the absolutely and ridiculously stubborn conservativism of the Catholic Church is the treatment of Galileo Galilei: This Italian astronome, based on his scientific observations, had the guts to challenge the geocentric dogma of the Catholic Church by the evidence that earth was moving on an orbit around the sun. The Catholic Church could not accept the truth and, thus, a loss of credibility and power. In 1633 an inquisitional tribunal of the Church condemned Galilei to lifelong prison. He had to officially revoke his position to avoid death sentence. It was not before 1992 (!!!!!!) that the Catholic Church could condescend to a half-hearted rehabilitation of Galilei.
    So: Who is immoral (and arrogant and ridiculous)?

    Posted by: Roman Bolliger, Switzerland | Aug 9, 2010 2:21:06 PM

  16. Now hold on True Words - we can't paint with too broad of a brush. There have been relatively few Black Church sex scandals. With the exception of the Church of God in Christ, most of the mainline Black Christian Churches are above reproach, even Trinity United Church of Christ. While our former pastor was vilified in city squares, people tended to forget about all of the good that was done, especially on the GLBT front.

    Posted by: Verdon Coleman | Aug 9, 2010 3:37:18 PM

  17. Mexican cardinal says gay marriage is evil....but licking the cum off a dudes boxers is heavenly.

    HA! Puhleeze...there are fucking LOADS of black pervert ministers! They get less publicity than Catholics because there are a lot more Catholics, and the Catholic Church has BIG $$$$ that lawyers love.

    Posted by: ratbastard | Aug 9, 2010 6:02:00 PM

  18. What a coincidence. I call the Catholic Church "evil" and "inherently immoral" all the time.

    Posted by: Timzilla | Aug 9, 2010 10:39:27 PM

  19. Somebody tell Cardinal DumbAsFuck that when his country stops procreating into infinite poverty, maybe I'll lend him my ear. Until then, his people should continue to wear mismatched, multicolor clothing and continue preparing 1000's of different dinner combinations made from the same four ingredients.

    Posted by: Drew | Aug 10, 2010 12:17:04 AM

  20. The church NEEDS us. We are far too important to them to demonize us . Without hate for us what would they even talk about as catholics ? Christianity in the 21st century has moved so far from the teachings of the their christ and now seems only bent on looking more like the old KKK. It's ALL ABOUT disenfranchising anyone outside their very small view. Such complete intellectual dishonesty !!

    Posted by: MarkBoston | Aug 24, 2010 12:45:57 AM

  21. Rivera says that "Christ raised marriage to the dignity of a sacrament". The catholic church bases that bit of theology on the report that Jesus and Mary went to a friends wedding at Cana and when they ran out of wine Jesus reluctantly changed gallons and gallons of water into wine. Yep, thats it. Thats all he did or said and the church tells folks thats how he raised marriage to the dignity of a sacrament.Do you think that is a bit of a stretch?

    Posted by: jack | Nov 17, 2011 8:00:54 PM

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