Report: Madonna Offered $1 Billion Vegas Residency

Madonna Madonna has been offered a five-year, $1 billion dollar Vegas residency, MTV UK reports:

"The Hung Up singer could follow the footsteps of acts such as Celine Dion and Cher who relocated to the gambling capital of America to performing nightly shows at Caesars Palace. Celine’s five-year residency drew nearly three million people to 717 performances, but it’s thought Madge would surpass that.

If the deal goes ahead, Madonna would become the third highest paid female entertainer in the world, behind Oprah Winfrey and American homemaking entrepreneur Martha Stewart. "

Recent reports have also had Madonna planning a six-month hip-hop tour.

Comments

  1. Joe says

    No. I just can’t help but think that she’s way too big for this.

    And she has so many interest, that being tied down for 5 years would probably hold her back creatively.

  2. jason says

    Madonna?? Ewww, no thanks. This publicity-hungry cow used dumb gay men to build a power base in the 1980’s but, having amassed her fortune, has basically done nothing to help gay people or their cause. She’s a bitch and a cunt. Fuck off, Madge.

  3. BCLance says

    @Jason: wow, that is some serious hostility. Madonna pillaged creatively from more than just gay people, and her 80s fan base consisted of way more than gay guys.

  4. MarkDC says

    Given Branson, MO is a more appropriate venue for this old lady she should:

    1) consider it a compliment, and
    2) grab that opportunity

    After all she’s gonnna need a lot of money to support that “talented” daughter.

  5. MarkDC says

    Fuck you Madonna. You are a manipulative fucking cow.

    Please, take Vegas so you’ll be an even bigger joke.

    Make sure you exploit more faggot eunuch dancers to make you look good.

  6. MarkDC says

    READ THIS…

    Madonna: Plantation Mistress or Soul Sister?
    bell hooks – From ‘Black Looks: Race and Representation’

    LINK: http://stevenstanley.tripod.com/docs/bellhooks/madonna.html

    ________________________________________

    A few choice passages from the above essay:

    As with most Madonna videos, when critics talk about this film they tend to ignore race. Yet no viewer can look at this film and not think about race and representation without engaging in forms of denial.

    After choosing a cast of characters from marginalized groups–nonwhite folks, heterosexual and GAY, and GAY white folks–Madonna publicly describes them as “emotional cripples.”

    And of course in the context of the film this description seems borne out by the way THEY ALLOW HER TO DOMINATE, EXPLOIT, AND HUMILIATE THEM.

    Those Madonna fans who are determined to see her as politically progressive might ask themselves why it is she completely endorses those racist/sexist/classist stereotypes that almost always attempt to portray marginalized groups as “defective”.

    Let’s face it, by doing this, Madonna is not breaking with any white supremacist, patriarchal status quo; SHE IS ENDORSING AND PERPETUATING IT.

    Would audiences be charmed by some rich white male entertainer telling us he must “play father” and oversee the actions of the less powerful, especially women and men of color? So why did so many people find it cute when Madonna asserted that she dominates the interracial casts of gay and heterosexual folks in her film because they are crippled and she “like[s] to play mother”?

    No, this was not a display of feminist power, this was the same old phallic nonsense with white pussy at the center. And many of us watching were not simply unmoved–we were outraged.

  7. Ken says

    I’ve always loved her music, still do. I think what a lot of you are missing about Madonna is that she almost always speaks ironically and makes more fun of herself than she does other people.
    Now, to step off my soap box, she will never do this as she has the attention span of a five year old.

  8. Pete says

    So all you Madonna haters – here are SOME of the charities she has helped and continue to help. How many have you helped or do you just bitch?

    Afghanistan Relief Organization
    American Foundation for AIDS Research
    BID 2 BEAT AIDS
    Bony Pony Ranch
    Charity Projects Entertainment Fund
    Children in Need
    Children of Peace
    Clinton Foundation
    H.E.L.P. Malawi
    Live Earth
    Make-A-Wish Foundation
    Millennium Promise Alliance
    Millennium Villages
    MusiCares
    Partners in Health
    Raisa Gorbachev Foundation
    Raising Malawi
    Sentebale
    Sweet Relief Musicians Fund
    Treatment Action Campaign
    UN Millennium Project

  9. kodiak says

    It might be better for vegas than madonna. vegas was hit hard by the recession, huge overbuilt housing market, unemployment, etc.
    she would def be a draw, but i don’t think vegas has enough going on to interest her signing an agreement and spending serious time in the desert.

  10. Aron says

    I think she would get too bored for 5 years in one place doing the same thing. I think this is about 10 years too soon.

    And nothing like a Madonna post to bring out the irrational cunty queens. If these bitter marys spent half as much time volunteering or making their own music/video/art as they do going on blogs and making unsolicited bilious comments about a successful, talented mother, they might find a little more joy in their lives.

  11. says

    Madonna should take the money and do the damn shows…she is NOT going to make 200 million each year for the next 5 years…it is SIMPLE math and as an entertainer it is an AMAZING offer…

    However she lost me when she did “Vogue”…there was NO mention of a single black person in her list of stars…in addition to the nod to “Paris is Burning”…

  12. SSCHIEFRSHA says

    Not a sound investment.
    @ PETE- Comeback to the discussion when she donates to charities that actually solidify her perceived “mother”-ly affection/activism for the LGBT community like FightBackNYC or The Trevor Project. The Gods! Some gay men are like these losers I used to bully at school: they are most contented when the popular jock’s eyes meets with theirs momentarily which to the losers is a moment of eternal bliss. Madonna is that jock who only nods at you when she needs your help[money] but make no mistake, you are NOT high on her list of friends.

  13. MarkDC says

    @ Pete

    “MarkDC – has serious hate issues.” -Pete

    No. I have issues with stupid people (like you) who carelessly and complacently swallow spoon-fed mediocrity DESIGNED to distract you.

    Stupid people (like you) make life so unreasonable for the few intelligent critical thinkers out there just trying stay sane.

    With Gays like you who needs Fred Phelps, DADT or DOMA?

  14. Pete says

    Why is it everything she does have to be directed at the LGBT community? She is about people, not gays. She doesn’t discriminate and she works to raise money for AIDS. Enough already, not everything is about gay…gay…gay. For fucks sake, she didn’t shun, nor did she come out against us. I hope she takes the billion and gives us the finger…I’ve always wanted to be fingered by Madonna.

  15. Pete says

    Really MarkDC? Your comments are that of a critical intelligent thinker? Over Madonna? Madonna? Then name calling? Gays like me? Did I call anyone a faggot? I think that was you, a self hating homo…with such anger issues you lash out at fucking Madonna? Holly shit dude, seek counseling, not everything you read is true. You have anger issues. She’s a fun entertainer that has done nothing to harm the LGBT community. She has raised millions for AIDS charities…she’s a saint…she’s like a Madonna. 😛

  16. David says

    @MarkDC – Another creative intellectual thought brought to you by Mark in DC.

    Sponsored by Ritilian, “You can’t take it, till Mark does”. 😀

  17. MarkDC says

    Actually Madonna would make Vegas incredibly uncool.

    She appeals to that part of Vegas that attracts fatass middle Americans. Perfect for Madonna. All her 80s fans grew up, got fat, got married, squeezed out fat kids, etc.

    Ever walk the strip in the daytime? You might as well be at The Mall of America…or McDonalds.

    Fatass lemmings who’d just love to sing along to Madonna songs.

    $$$

  18. Joe says

    Wow, I’m surprised by all the Madonna hate.

    I think her presence doesn’t always have to be about giving to gay charities and talking about gay issues – she is a person. Maybe gay sites obsess over her too much – but that’s their problem.

    However, I think her power and why she’s become an icon (and still remains one) isn’t because of her commitment to gay causes years ago and various social organizations, but that she had the power to bring disparate groups together – many but particularly people who felt maligned. There’s an attraction there that is undeniable. It’s her ability to build bridges with people using her music that’s something special. Adding to that her propensity to change her personality every 5 minutes – and she stands as a really powerful symbol of post-modernity – helping people to realize that they don’t have to fit a specific mold, but can be whatever they want whenever they want without it being a bad thing.

    The much revered Lady Gaga is doing the same thing now, and stands as that symbol. While Gaga’s committment to the marriage equality movement is strong and really great, it’s important to remember that when Madonna was Gaga’s age, the issues were AIDs and simply treating gay people with respect and allowing them to be seen outside of the gaybourhood – something she did. I’m sure 25-30 years from now Gaga will have grown older, and while her commitment to the cause won’t have changed, she’ll step back and let others do their part – much like Madonna is doing now.

  19. MarkDC says

    READ THIS…

    Madonna: Plantation Mistress or Soul Sister?
    bell hooks – From ‘Black Looks: Race and Representation’

    LINK: http://stevenstanley.tripod.com/docs/bellhooks/madonna.html

    ________________________________________

    A few choice passages from the above essay:

    As with most Madonna videos, when critics talk about this film they tend to ignore race. Yet no viewer can look at this film and not think about race and representation without engaging in forms of denial.

    After choosing a cast of characters from marginalized groups–nonwhite folks, heterosexual and GAY, and GAY white folks–Madonna publicly describes them as “emotional cripples.”

    And of course in the context of the film this description seems borne out by the way THEY ALLOW HER TO DOMINATE, EXPLOIT, AND HUMILIATE THEM.

    Those Madonna fans who are determined to see her as politically progressive might ask themselves why it is she completely endorses those racist/sexist/classist stereotypes that almost always attempt to portray marginalized groups as “defective”.

    Let’s face it, by doing this, Madonna is not breaking with any white supremacist, patriarchal status quo; SHE IS ENDORSING AND PERPETUATING IT.

    Would audiences be charmed by some rich white male entertainer telling us he must “play father” and oversee the actions of the less powerful, especially women and men of color? So why did so many people find it cute when Madonna asserted that she dominates the interracial casts of gay and heterosexual folks in her film because they are crippled and she “like[s] to play mother”?

    No, this was not a display of feminist power, this was the same old phallic nonsense with white pussy at the center. And many of us watching were not simply unmoved–we were outraged.

  20. Joe says

    @MarkDC, I thought that article was an interesting read, but I felt like the author focused too much on Madonna’s whiteness, and not enough on her womanness. Madonna was an artist coming up during the 80s and I think an important part of her narrative is that she is woman and that she is reclaiming that power. There’s a strain about empowerment in her work that’s undeniable. Ignoring her status as a woman is a big misstep, and misunderstands part of her message – since woman (especially at the time of her videos) were seen as dangerous. Remember the lonely executive bitch archetype woman have been dealing with since the 80s?

    And, I’ve always thought that her use of gay and even black culture was to bring the tenants that seemed dangerous or unseemly into the mainstream and to say “it’s okay, your fear is bigotry.” I always felt her intent was to show that these groups were different, but that they have a place in open society and should be accepted as such. Her intent was, I felt, to celebrate these cultures.

    However, I really like the bit about her dominating these groups, and I’ll have to give it some more thought – I’ve never wholly considered what she did as ‘dominating.’

  21. Joe says

    By my “it’s okay, your fear is bigotry” remark I meant that she was telling gays that there culture was okay to be in the mainstream and that those who feared it were “bigots” – there was no reason why it shouldn’t see the light of day (or the midwest as the case might be).

  22. Alex N says

    The gay Madonna hate comes from a very special place: These people need approval desperately, and they especially wanted Madonna’s. That just isn’t her style. Unlike Gaga who literally caters to her core fanbase, Madonna’s message was truly to be yourself, toughen up and go out in the world and do something. She certainly lived up to her own philosophy. Personally I find Gaga’s gay pandering to be offensive and naive. She obviously isn’t old enough to understand that the bitchy queens will tire of her (and it will be much sooner rather than later in her case). And guess what? Madonna will still be there, loved and hated and discussed by many, the source of a million rumors about billion dollar Vegas deals, plastic surgery procedures, and nasty criticism of her parenting, her love life and her philanthropy. However, for me it will always come down to the music, and whether or not she releases another song again, I am so happy to have the music I enjoy to listen to whenever I want and I can’t wait for Warner Bros to start exploiting her back catalog with remasters, unreleased tracks etc. She is the only truly iconic star that remains. Your loss if you don’t see it through your Britney, Katy Perry, Kesha, Rihanna-tinted glasses.

    One last thing: Regarding Madonna’s supposed racism. Wtf? Grow some balls and do something instead of whining about big issue bandwagons like gay marriage and DODT in cyberspace.

  23. Aron says

    Madonna will always hold a special place for me as I was in high school in KY (Louisville, yes, but still KY) when Truth or Dare came out. It was the only real portrayal of out gay men I had ever seen. Here was the most famous person on the planet celebrating gay pride and spinning gay underground culture (we can debate what credit and to whom she should have given it later; regardless of that, I would have never seen it without her) into a worldwide #1 hit, not to mention speaking out about AIDS and safe sex before any celebrity that huge would even touch it. She literally helped me out of the closet whether she wanted to, whether she would do it now, whether any of you haters can see past your own vile cuntiness. Every word out of her mouth doesn’t need to be about us. She’s a straight woman and a mother who doesn’t think about gay shit every minute of every day. She’s too busy making movies (ahem), building a school (or at least financing the building of) in Malawi and running a multi-billion dollar business. Get over yourselves, haters, it’s not all about you.

  24. El-Brucio says

    Wow, I’m kind of shocked at the Madonna hatred too. She was openly supportive of the gay community at a time when few other celebrities cared to do so. Perhaps it was less of a risk because her fan base was rather young, but those people grew up and it helped shape their identity.

    As to this being a good move for her, I’m not entirely certain. I doubt she’s hurting for money – even if she decided never to work again.

  25. says

    Madonna doesn’t need Vegas. An offer, if it’s even real, is not an acceptance.

    The Madonna hatred is a joke. I get why some wouldn’t like her music, but if you’re going to then start talking about if she’s done enough for blacks (no black stars listed in “Vogue” means she is off the list? But “it doesn’t matter if you’re black or white” to her…) or gays (she’s done tons of great stuff for gay people and for AIDS; I don’t see why this has to be her life’s work even if she has a large gay fanbase. Don’t her fans like her for her music and opinions on various issues and style more so than if she is fighting for gay rights on a daily basis?), let’s bring in every other famous person. Nobody can touch her for her work on gay issues, and that includes Cyndi Lauper, who’s done great stuff, because Madonna’s gay advocacy was done early on and was woven into her work and her interviews when she was the latest, hottest star—that shit says with people.

    I can’t believe I bothered to comment when there’s a lunatic on here spouting bell hooks essays from 20 years ago (it was about TRUTH OR DARE!) and calling people “faggot.”

  26. says

    I just don’t see it happening – not at this stage of her career. Maybe in twenty years time, but she’s doing too much in too many places around the world. Also, I honestly don’t think she likes Vegas that much – she seemed to make fun of the Vegas crowd during the Reinvention Tour…

  27. Nathan says

    Not a big Madonna fan here. However, I can’t see her choosing to do this. I think Vegas is where many good artists go to die.

    Does she still create music?

  28. MarkDC says

    @ MATTHEW RETTENMUND

    Obama, The Supreme Court, The Military would ALL rather keep you dumb faggots dancing in the streets to Madonna than reading something that might make you think.

    You’re all just like Scientologists drinking the Kool Aid. As long as you fucking faggots have iPods and Prada sneakers you couldn’t fucking care less.

    Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

    GAYTARDS.

  29. MarkDC says

    Somebody has to slap you worthless faggots in the face with a hard dose of reality.

    You’re all dickless wonders suckling at the precious TEET of every bright and shiny trinket hegemonic culture uses to distract you.

    Looks like we’ve got the Upper Fag Heights chapter of Mensa here.

    Good fucking luck.

  30. says

    @TANK:…”hegemonic? What the fuck is this, the michigan womyn’s music festival?”

    I’m peeing myself! Wasn’t expecting that one!

    @MARKDC: To paraphrase When Harry Met Sally, “I’ll have two of what he’s having”.

    Put the torch down Mija.Space out your hits.

  31. MarkDC says

    @ Jefferson

    That was actually the best comment on this entire thread.

    @ Tank

    I used “hegemonic” only to illustrate Madonna is a “tool” in the most literal sense.

    @ Pete

    SUCK MY DICK. GAYTARD.

  32. TANK says

    Yeah, Mark, I know what hegemonic means. I’ve dealt with a lot of people…who are into that.

    Here’s the deal. I don’t give a shit about madonna, and I don’t give a shit about whether or not anyone is into madonna. She’s done work that alleviates needless suffering. Is it as much as she could do? Of course not. But it’s something, and it seems worthwhile to praise people (fucking people…) on what they do and not criticize what they don’t do but could be doing. Further, the kind of rage that mark has exhibites is a hell of a lot more useful than ambivalence, mindless worship and defense of celebrity, or the amorality of not caring. There’s nothing okay about the world today…nothing…is good…nothing is satisfactory. So rage and disgust, and complete dissatisfaction with everything until your last breath should be encouraged…because at least it admits to the fact that nothing is okay, and moreso, is unacceptable.

  33. Joseph says

    The fact she’s still been making music today, and sold over 300 million albums says something. Many believed she wouldn’t be around today when she first came out with my favorite Madonna song, Everybody, back in 1982. Hard to believe but at one point but audiences thought Madonna was black in 1982. Especially when she signed her first record deal with Sire (Warner Bros. Records), and they first sent out Holiday (September of 1983).

    The label didn’t place an image of Madonna, and wouldn’t believe radio DJs would play/air a R&B song that would be done by Italian white woman. Let the music sell itself and the rest, as they say, is history!

    Madonna has proven to out do herself, coming out of not so critically albums here & there, and have produced such great albums like Like a Prayer, Ray of Light, and Confessions on the Dance Floor. Madonna has defiantly ruled the world by becoming the biggest selling woman (music artist) on Earth, according to Guinness World Records 2011.

    Her concerts are without a doubt, hands down. An event and very entertaining! For being 52, she look pretty damn good, is your mother of that age still fit? Still go to the gym? Manage to keep dancing like 20-something old? Her shows are perfect for Vegas but there’s one HUGE PROBLEM here! She HATES VEGAS!!! She has turned down Vegas in the past well.

  34. Joseph says

    I lived in Las Vegas, and worked at Caesars Palace for 3 years when Celine Dion & Elton John were headliners at the Coliseum. Guess who always sold out, Elton John! Dion 75% of the time, had sold out crowds. Being a “red neck” city enough as is, the crowd was more loose for John’s then Dion’s but even with John’s, the crowd was pretty stiff for concert standards.

    Which is why Madonna hates performing in Las Vegas, because 70% the seats are given to casino clubhouse members, and it didn’t matter if a guest stayed at the hotel itself, Whatever property Harrah’s Entertainment INC. ran (they owned Caesars), if you were a clubhouse member/high roller at Bally’s, Flamingo, Planet Hollywood, Imperial Palace, Rio, and Harrah’s… A person can get a guaranteed seat!

    In general only 30% of the general public are able to get seats, depending on the night, most of the audience are just the there because they were offered free tickets or just wanted to do something for the night. This is why most performers hate performing in Las Vegas in general. Dion had to perform, well forced to form because her husband made a bad deal with Caesars.

    Madonna hates Vegas, and she’s turned down that lousy city more then twice in the past! I’m happy to left that God awful town btw =) Plus the gay scene SUCKS. It’s not really Sin City people!

  35. jake says

    OMG! there’s so much hatred on Her Madgesty here! When it comes to philanthropy/fighting rights. Madonna has been the fore front. Remember the gay couple in Malawi? She spoke against the arrest of gay couple. Who knows she had supported and poured money to get them out of court. No one knows that. I read Randy T’s biography on Madonna and he said, Madonna is very secretive about her philanthropic acts and causes she supports.
    I am really appalled that a lot of people are so acerbic about her. When this is the woman who says to “express yourself” and “do your thing” Just because she wasnt rallying in front of us guys doesnt mean she has turned against us. At times during her concerts she kept mentioning about the whole NO H8 campaign and gay rights! and yes, I agree with Jason about Lady G’s.
    As for her deal, I really really really hope she’ll turn this down! Madonna accept the deal when you’re 80! Not when you’re at the peak! Who cares about that money, i’m sure you’ll earn more in less than 5 years or so. Besides, when hardships arise thats when creative juice starts to spur and it will make you even more relevant. I think Celine D’s decision was a mistake. First, she got stuck in Vegas. Second, Cesars Palace was loosing it when recessions hit. Third, I’m pretty sure she could have earn more performing outside Vegas. Think about those bar mitzvahs, they’ll pay performers huge amount for only couple of hours. Besides Vegas is sooo 2000s. We’re reaching 2011, it’s going to be different IT places to do a hot show!!! LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!

  36. Paul says

    what is wrong with some of you? seriously need some therapy!! Madonna is a gay icon, she always will be. She loves the gays, she put them right up to the front. But, she appeals to everyone, not just our community. and her charity I do believe is not publicized!!
    That being said…”she is a not a Vegas act”…she doesn’t appeal to the blue-haired set like Celine Dion and Cher and Bette Midler…she still has some years in her to compete with the likes of Miley Cyrus and Britney and Christina and of course Lady Gaga.
    I think she is an American success story…you can’t say she didn’t work hard to get where she is!! Yeah, she is a bitch, but if she was a man, no one would care!! and that is damn truth!!

  37. MarkDC says

    @ TANK

    “I don’t give a shit about madonna, and I don’t give a shit about whether or not anyone is into madonna. She’s done work that alleviates needless suffering.” -TANK

    Like you I do not give a shit about Madonna. I do, however, give a shit about dancing while Rome burns.

    Ever read Poe’s “The Masque of the Red Death”? All too often I think of that short story when experiencing Official Gay Culture today. The obvious analogy is AIDS. The more insidious “plague” parallel is repression – denial of sexual apartheid, de jure segregation and the machinery at work to sustain it.

    It is painful and infuriating to watch fragile, damaged faggots cloistering themselves inside a fortress of comforting, distracting popular (yes, hegemonic) culture DESIGNED to keep them fagile, damaged faggots. Saturating their lives with pablum DESIGNED to distract them. Embracing categories DESIGNED to contain them. Whether it’s Madonna, reality shows, Lady Gaga, etc. it’s all the same thing.

    In other words: dancing and partying while their lives are increasingly desperate and their futures increasingly compromised…by design.

    Judge Walker’s Prop 8 decision “stayed” for an appeal? DADT stalled? President Obama saying nothing? They just trot out Madonna, at age 52, for another round. The system works in tandem, so spectacularly seamless it appears neither orchestrated nor obvious, and no longer requires conscious effort.

    This is why I deaccessioned myself from pre-fabricated Gay Culture fifteen years ago. This is why I am also equally dismissive of the (yes, hegemonic) culture that creates this morass.

    .

    .

    .

  38. Emperor Nero says

    To HEGE-MORONIC Mark in DC

    “In other words: dancing and partying while their lives are increasingly desperate and their futures increasingly compromised…by design.”

    So what are you doing with your life “Fartacus” while “Rome is burning” other than churning out a hell of a lot of wasted time and fury on Towleroad.com?

    And the AIDS comment was really disgraceful shot. What’s the test result on your serostatus? Care to share?

    I’m giving you the “thumbs down” in the arena.

  39. SSCHIEFRSHA says

    @ MARKDC

    Marry me! Why gays readily, blindingly and blissfully conform to this caricature of our sexuality called Gay Culture constructed for us by our oppressors dishearteningly escapes me. Our sexuality should not be a game piece but only A PART of us on this journey through this mine field called Life.

  40. Joe says

    I think a lot of the Madonna haters are too young to remember just how much she created, shaped and contributed to gay culture as well as being a supporter of AIDS-related causes when it wasn’t fashionable. And please, there is no moral failure in liking a pop star.

  41. lc says

    As a previous commenter said, 5 yrs is too long for her to sit in one spot and do the same thing. She has more then enough money so doubt the billion $ would be enticing. And yes she is worth it, can’t think of anyone else that everyone would want to and should see once in their lifetime. Not sure why some queens ae so against her. Growing up her Truth or Dare/dancers gave me and my generation the first glimpse of gay people just being themselves and not some punchline on a tv show/movie. So what if they were queeny, some people are and some arent, thats not a bad stereotype. Only a jackass in a smalltown with half a brain would think all gay people act the same so why was it her job to teach that?

  42. Don in NYC says

    I can’t see Madge doing a multi-year stint in Vegas; it’s simply too stifling for her. However, I can see her doing something like Prince did in London (21 shows in 31 days) or what was going to be MJ’s “This Is It” show in London. The formula is simple: limited number of shows in a limited amount of time + fairly exorbitant ticket price + show featuring songs not played frequently on past (or current/recent) tours + unique staging = cash cow business (limited engagements). She’ll make a killing! I’m not the biggest Madonna fan (but not a hater) – but IMHO, she is 2nd on my list for best concert shows/tours after Prince. I’d go in a heartbeat.

  43. MarkDC says

    @ EMPEROR NERO

    You are one dumbass Gaytard faggot.

    Projecting your anger and impotency onto me is a textbook ARCH FAGGOT move…and a spectacular waste of everyone’s time. Do you like being a cliche? Don’t you have a department store cosmetics counter to straighten somewhere?

    How is “the AIDS comment a disgraceful shot”? Have you read Masque of the Red Death? Do you know it has been used repeatedly as a classic AIDS anology in the last 22 years to demonstrate the complacency of heterosexuals and the marginalization of Gays?

    Let me guess. You’re a complacent, sophomoric 20-something with the arrogance of opinion and unearned attitude?

    Today The Masque of the Red Death is especially useful in demonstrating how The Gays anesthetize themselves with Official Gay Culture to avoid the reality of de jure segregation and encroachment upon the few rights they have.

    Prospero and his Nobles cloister themselves in a walled abbey fortress with the doors welded shut seeking to escape a deathly plague which eventually, inevitably seeps in and kills them all. So too The Gays hermetically seal themselves within a self-perpetuating subculture DESIGNED TO CONTAIN AND DESTROY THEM.

    Hence, the analogy that ignorance, complacency and arrogance will be your undoing.

    Duh. Gaytard.

  44. Emperor Nero says

    Mark in DC
    Bull pucky! Stop w/the EAP and answer the effing question! What are you doing with your life? You’re all show, no go. CONSTRUCT RATHER THAN DESCONSTRUCT!!!

    AGAIN SLOWLEY….”So what are you doing with your life “Fartacus” while “Rome is burning” other than churning out a hell of a lot of wasted time and fury on Towleroad.com?”

  45. Emperor Nero says

    Hey markdc, And to show I’ve got a genuine impotent arch faggot sense of humor, I’ll take your cliche even further

    “Welcome to Macy’s…Clinique in the Mezzanine…Men’s furnishings on 3…and in his mother’s basement MARKDC popping zits on his ass!”

  46. Jenner says

    Markdc

    I am VERY upset by your use of HIV/AIDS as a piece of ammunition in a discussion thread pertaining to a pop singer.

    I have AIDS! It deeply offends and saddens me that you younger gay men have become so removed from the reality of this illness and human feelings in general that you feel you can claim it as fair game for your joking and small minded pranks.

    Living with this illness is no walk in the park.

  47. MarkDC says

    @ EMPEROR NERO

    I appreciate your sense of humor.

    My “life”, about which you are demonstrably concerned, is happy and successful enough to warrant no further comment or specifics.

    Thanks for your interest.

  48. MarkDC says

    @ PETE

    “So I guess that’s a YES. You’re poz!” -Pete

    No. That’s just another one of your fantasies. You might ask yourself why your self-esteem depends entirely on pretending other people are crazy, wrong, sick or dying.

    Faggots using HIV/AIDS as weapon to threaten and intimidate. That’s ironic. You have illustrated the Masque of the Red Death analogy completely. Thank you for proving my point.

    That sound? It’s you slowly choking on your own self-loathing as you pretend everything is ok.

    I don’t need to say anything else. You’re doing a thorough job exposing yourself.

  49. MarkDC says

    @ JENNER

    “I am VERY upset by your use of HIV/AIDS as a piece of ammunition in a discussion thread pertaining to a pop singer…that you feel you can claim it as fair game for your joking and small minded pranks.” – JENNER

    What the fuck are you talking about? Who here is doing that?

  50. Emperor Nero says

    Mark in DC

    If it’s working out for you pal, so why do you behave like a total turd in this conversation room? We don’t need that here.

    Try canning the double-wide potty mouth talk. You sound like 1970’s Pimmit Hills white trash picking up trash on I-66 in an orange jumpsuit.

    Didn’t your ole lady teach you civility? The golden rule?

    Defend your queer bruthas!

  51. Jenner says

    Markdc
    Bad analogies are like bullets: shoot them off negligently or maliciously and you cause a lot of harm. In the Madonna in Vegas dicourse of the last several days, your analogies were flying fast and furious, but when you recklessly and viciously introduced AIDS in reference to this trite pop culture gossip item, you grievously wounded your chances of any coherent ethical clarification. I hope you too become infected and will one day come to regret your snickering callousness!

  52. MarkDC says

    @ JENNER

    Dude. You are SO fucking damaged. Referring to AIDS analogies in literature is offensive?

    WHERE exactly have I used “HIV/AIDS as a piece of ammunition”?

    WHERE exactly have I “recklessly and viciously” referred to HIV/AIDS in this discussion?

    WHERE?

    SHOW me the exact comment/s that do either of those two things.

    PROVE THAT.

    So far it’s YOU and “Pete” using HIV/AIDS as a weapon. Pete hurls accusations of sero-positive status as an insult. YOU wish AIDS on those who threaten you. Looks like you both have issues with HIV. Wonder what that’s about.

    Again, thanks for proving my Masque of the Red Death analogy. Cloister yourselves in the fragile fortress of Official Gay (sub)Culture: sucking up your pop music and reality shows, savaging each other, hoping each other get AIDS until you’re all dead, irrelevant or both. AS IF any of it is transformative. Meanwhile hegemonic heterosexual culture is loving every minute of your self-loathing, self-destructive performance art.

    Who needs DADT and DOMA when you, Pete, and Emporer Nero are here to caustically gnarl each other’s damaged psyches like the brittle arch faggots you are?

    Fucking Gaytard.

    .

  53. DG says

    “There’s nothing okay about the world today…nothing…is good…nothing is satisfactory.”

    That’s a sad statement on the choices you’re making, but doesn’t necessarily apply to anyone else’s experience.

  54. TANK says

    I think it does. Let’s look at the facts.

    Approximately 9.6-10.4 million children under five die from poverty. Imagine watching your child die from measles because if you can’t afford medical care. That’s about 24,000 children per day (including those over five).

    One billion people entered the 21st century without being able to read a book or sign their name.

    1.4 billion people live on $1.25 per day. Real dollars, not nominal. Over three billion people live on less than $2.50 per day. Imagine living on what it costs you for a bottle of water for the entire day?

    The world’s poorest 40% accounts for less than 5% of the world’s income, whereas the richest 20% accounts for three quarters.

    2.6 billion people lack basic sanitation.

    None of this is necessary–all of it needless. We live in an age of unparalleled abundance, and no one should have to suffer the this.

    —————–

    Argument.

    First premise: Suffering and death from lack of food, shelter and medical care are bad.

    Second premise: If it is in your power to prevent something bad from happening, without sacrificing anything nearly as important, it is wrong not to do so.

    Third premise: By donating to aid agencies, you can prevent suffering and death from lack of food, shelter and medical care, without sacrificing anything nearly as important.

    Conclusion: Therefore, if you do not donate to aid agencies, you are doing something wrong.

    ——————————

    I don’t see how anything, save endeavoring to end this degree of suffering, can be good (distinct from “enjoyable” or what you like to do in satisfying your preference) in light of these statistics. It has nothing to do with the choices I’ve made. Nope, there’s nothing good in light of these realities.

  55. DG says

    Tank – while all of that is true, what it doesn’t take into account are the many people and organizations that are working to change things. The choice I referred to is the one to focus on the negative conditions as opposed to the attempts to move forward.
    I choose to live with positiveness, and continue contributing to the energy of hope. Not only does it work toward the intended goal, but it makes my own experience of life much easier.

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