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Former NBA Star John Amaechi Denied Entrance to Gay Bar for Being 'Big and Black and [Possibly] Trouble'


Gay former NBA star John Amaechi tweeted yesterday that he was denied entrance to Crunch Bar in Manchester, UK (where he lives) after the bouncer said he was "big and black and could be trouble."

Pink Paper reports: Amaechi-headshot

"When Amaechi questioned the decision, the doorman said it was a 'private members' bar.' He then allegedly claimed that the New York Times best-selling author had been flagged up as 'trouble' on the gay village's shared security radio network. A spokesperson for the bar later told Amaechi's representative: 'Your group was stopped from entering the venue on Friday night as a message was received over the NiteNet radio system, (a system where several venues work together within the village, where they announce any issues they have with any customers), that your group had been argumentative and aggressive to another venue’s doorstaff. On interview with the staff who were present at the time, we are satisfied that there were no racism or bigotry comments as you suggest. All three staff who were present on the door at the time have been with us for over 14 months and none of them have ever displayed the attitude or characteristics you suggest in your email. You have clearly misunderstood the situation and perhaps justifying your exclusion that evening. We consider this matter closed now.'"

The other bars, VIA and Taurus, which use the NiteNet system deny there was any such warning about Amaechi's behavior.

According to the paper, "Amaechi's representatives have lodged a complaint with the Equality and Human Rights Commission along with a complaint to the Manchester City Council LGBT affairs director, Terry Waller and also with the Greater Manchester Police LGBT liaison office."

Read our recent interview with John Amaechi HERE.

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  1. Ah,the gay community, a bastion of harmony and diversity!

    Posted by: Asher | Sep 13, 2010 1:35:27 PM

  2. Unbelievable, wrong, racist. It is very sad they is not one big happy global gay community. It is just reality. Sth need to be done. A boycott from local gays perhaps?

    Posted by: Matt26 | Sep 13, 2010 1:40:27 PM

  3. Its happened with us last night in Manchester a club called Cruz.The bouncers stopped me and my friend ( a lesbian girl) and they told us we are straight and we couldn't get in.I suppose everybody need to be a gay clone to get in. Pathetic

    Posted by: Muflon | Sep 13, 2010 1:51:53 PM

  4. that's my kind of trouble

    Posted by: Rikard | Sep 13, 2010 1:53:10 PM

  5. WE are supposed to be the progressive folks!!
    Sad when we identify people as "possible trouble" when they're just "big and black"

    Posted by: Greg | Sep 13, 2010 1:55:42 PM

  6. This is nothing earth shattering and new..... Black gay males have known about this issue for a long time, especially in the USA.

    And white males endorse this kind of behavior-so don't behave surprised and shocked!

    If we discriminate, why can't the straight community discriminate against us!

    Posted by: Brains | Sep 13, 2010 2:00:19 PM

  7. I am mildly surprised that this happened in the UK.

    In the US, yeah, I would expect something like this but in the UK I would moreso think that this would happen to a Middle Easterner or even an Indian.

    As Brains said, many black gays in the US have been treated like this (though I personally haven't...yet)

    Posted by: Chitown Kev | Sep 13, 2010 2:05:27 PM

  8. Contrary to popular belief, the gay community is just as racist as the straight community.

    Posted by: New New | Sep 13, 2010 2:08:08 PM

  9. Just listened to a great interview with John Amaechi on the new episode of The Six Pack, check it out: http://sixpackage.com/post/1097114443/51-app-for-that

    Posted by: David | Sep 13, 2010 2:08:55 PM

  10. Sad that in 2010, we still have so far to go.

    Post-racial my ass.

    Posted by: Wes | Sep 13, 2010 2:14:00 PM

  11. But the bar said the matter is closed, so they must be right. Pathetic. I hope the powers that be shut them down.

    Posted by: David R. | Sep 13, 2010 2:19:36 PM

  12. Do you think some gay people are really racist? I was out a few weeks back and a black guy came into the club/bar, and everyone jumped to the floor while someone yelled, "he's got a gun!" He didn't, though...he didn't have a gun...why did I yell that, then? Dunno.


    He should complain. This is unacceptable. I do know too many racist, uneducated gay people. Acquaintances that you have to keep at arm's length.

    Posted by: TANK | Sep 13, 2010 2:26:17 PM

  13. Sorry you had to get your "wake up call" John, but it happens to every gay of color sooner or later.

    Posted by: Marty | Sep 13, 2010 2:29:19 PM

  14. Where is 1/10th of the ridiculous outrage that poured from these pages when Shaq slid across the couch on a talk show as a homophobic joke? Or like when Isaiah called someone the f-word? Where is the call for boycotts and accountability? Yeah, all I hear is fucking crickets now. "Oh dear, that's a shame. Oh well, any more pictures of Jakey-poo picking his nose?" When the colors flip, it's no big deal, right? Besides, look what evil Obama hasn't done for us yet!

    "Community" my fucking ass! Y'all ain't SHIT!

    Posted by: RW | Sep 13, 2010 2:32:35 PM

  15. - racist -

    Posted by: veg | Sep 13, 2010 2:33:25 PM

  16. Glad there are Black Gay Clubs and Bars in America. American Blacks dont have to be bothered with this kind of mess.

    Posted by: Miss Thing | Sep 13, 2010 2:36:48 PM

  17. It's too bad that John A., who is a gentleman, has to pay the price for the lethal crime wave unleashed on us by minority thugs. Ultimately, all the bar is doing is trying to protect its clientèle. Yes, the bouncer is weak at P.R.

    Posted by: Raúl | Sep 13, 2010 2:41:33 PM

  18. Fuck you, Raul. There are whites killing whites every gotdam day. But I bet they didn't turn any white patrons, did they? They were being racist, period. Fuck you for trying to justify it!

    Posted by: RW | Sep 13, 2010 2:48:41 PM

  19. Wait, Raul so are you telling my that if a bunch of white serial killers started wreaking havoc on the streets of London, they'll block white people from getting into clubs?

    Posted by: Asher | Sep 13, 2010 2:49:56 PM

  20. "...turn away white patrons..."

    Posted by: RW | Sep 13, 2010 2:50:43 PM

  21. No, asher, because even if they're serial killers...they tip and spend that money...

    Posted by: TANK | Sep 13, 2010 2:54:45 PM

  22. Nice to see that the gay community is as ignorant, bigoted, and racist as everyone else. God, what an insult to Mr. Ameche. That's the kind of stuff that makes me wanna go to clubs like that with about 100 of my closest friends and trash that place to hell and back.

    Posted by: jamal49 | Sep 13, 2010 2:57:48 PM

  23. @RAUL P.S.: You are a major flaming pendejo.

    Posted by: jamal49 | Sep 13, 2010 2:58:56 PM

  24. Best selling author?? That's a stretch.

    I've seen a lot of unusual things happen at the entrance to bars. I've seen racist behavior and I've seen people too drunk to walk scream about discrimination because they weren't allowed in. Who knows where this one started and finished.

    Posted by: justiceontherocks | Sep 13, 2010 3:06:24 PM

  25. Gross. Racism is disgusting.

    Seriously, there needs to be some comeuppance for those people.

    Posted by: The Milkman | Sep 13, 2010 3:30:28 PM

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